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yus:

Well, my stupid brother has booked our posh food for Friday instead of Saturday. Which means we have to be at the restaurant at 7pm! V. early.
So, who will meet us for pints on Saturday instead?
-- accentmonkey (tris...), Yesterday 12:14 AM. (accentmonkey) (later)

and i cannae do saturday 'cos am being grumpy uncle simon to a six-year-old all weekend chiz chiz CHIZ.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 2 December 2005 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

Woops, looks like she posted that at the same time I was posting, or I just didn't read it properly.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 2 December 2005 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot to mention this but to those interested, I will be attempting to try Glasgow this New Year's Eve. Hope to see you!

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

stevem, that would rock. hard. although so far i think my NYE is going to involve staying sober so i can drive between two different parties. hmm. that will be ... novel.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 2 December 2005 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

See, there's this thing called a taxi ...

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 2 December 2005 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

On Hogmanay?

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Friday, 2 December 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Cozen and I are hoping to go to Optimo NYE, Steve. Maybe Lauren and Ally too?

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

I would be v keen on that (should i buy a ticket asap?), and could hopefully persude Alix if she isn't initially.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

I was drunk when I said that but I stand by it

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to move fast on this. When do they usually sell out?

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

at the first hint of success

have you read ally's latest "review"?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

I am not going to any optimo

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

me optimo. usually sells out just before christmas, alba. they go on sale online today and mono/vic tomorrow ( i just learned from echatio).

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

we went to optimo at the art school last year. i hope they hire some bar staff this time round :) :) :)

See, there's this thing called a taxi ...

scotstvo sadly dead-on. i have waited up to three hours for taxis on hogmanay. never again.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I tend to phone in advance. It means you can't change plans at the last minute, but that's not a bad thing at New Year.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

LATEST NEWS: my new bathroom starts to go in on Tuesday!

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

It means you can't change plans at the last minute

exactly.

which is why i'm going to have to take the sodding car :(

anyway. like i say. it'll be a novelty waking up on january 1 and not feeling like i'm staring into the fucking abyss, with vomit on my shoes.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

and when will it be ready to go in?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

I'm bursting

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

i'm only coming to Glasgow just so i can use Madchen's new bathroom.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

though i will be sure to 'give it a few minutes' after RJG.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

maybe I'll take a new haunt

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

It'll be a fortnight so you'd better find an alley for your slash, RJG.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

SLICE

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

no thanks, I could end up scarred, facially

crosspost

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I never made it out tonight due to being let down by the person I was meant to be out with and confusion as to whether I would end up a big Norma-no-mates if I went out anyway without him.

This has its advantages, as I can now stay in and anticipate Emma Pollock on The Music Show instead. Does anyone actually know if there is a plan for tomorrow? I will be in Glasgow anyway, so can someone text me if people are pubbing?

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

ooh god, my head.

ally, nick, stacey: i remember seeing you in the RAF club. IIRC ally was wearing some cool specs. but i have little recollection of anything else, so i apologise for whatever drunken nonsense i was no doubt spouting.

when you're drinking triple vodkas, you know you've had a good night.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 3 December 2005 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

It was the racism I couldn't stomach.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 3 December 2005 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 3 December 2005 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

all i remember is trying to kick your skinny ass. literally.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 3 December 2005 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Plan tonight: partay at my house. All welcome, natch.

― Ally C (Ally C), Saturday, 3 December 2005 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

unnatch

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 3 December 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

ally, have a top one. spare a thought for me, trying to find ways of entertaining my six-year-old nephew. with a hangover.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 3 December 2005 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck, Ally, I forgot about your birthday party. Possibly because you didn't invite me. I'm glad you all had fun on Friday.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 4 December 2005 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, you did sort of invite me, if posting to ILE an hour after I left the house counts. Please accept my apologies for any aspersion-casting.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 4 December 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

whaddya know

there is actually an offence of "drugging"

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 4 December 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

from the "draft criminal code for scotland", which is actually an expanded version of the current common law crime of drugging - drugging someone for a laugh doesn't appear to be a crime tho

Drugging

(1) A person who administers any drug or other substance to another person

(a) with intent to stupefy that person or being reckless as to whether that person is stupefied;

(b) with intent to facilitate the commission of an offence against that person or being reckless as to whether such an offence is committed; or

(c) with intent that that person commits an offence, or being reckless as to whether that person commits an offence, is guilty of the offence of drugging.

(2) Subsection (1)(a) does not apply

(a) if the drug or substance is administered in the course of lawful medical or dental treatment; or

(b) if the other person, knowing the likely effects of the drug or substance, requested or consented to its administration.

(3) For the purpose of this section administering a drug or substance includes causing it to be taken.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 4 December 2005 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

drugging someone for a laugh doesn't appear to be a crime tho

You don't need (1) (b) or (c) on top of (a) do you? Isn't (a) enough as long as the exclusions in (2) don't apply?

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 4 December 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

oh, yeah, d'oh

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 4 December 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

this is from the attendant commentary on the code:

The offence in subsection (1)(a) does not require an intent to do anything, or recklessness as to anything, beyond stupefying the victim. The essence of the offence is a violation of the victim’s interest in freedom of action and volition.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 4 December 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

I was half right about the current law:

At common law “drugging” would generally be treated as a form of causing real injury. There is, according to Gordon, no reported instance of a charge of drugging without an ulterior intent such as theft, but various older texts, including Alison, Macdonald and Anderson are all of the view that stupefaction without an ulterior intent would be unlawful.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 4 December 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

So that's your drugging career over then. Oh well. Time to find a new perfect crime.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 4 December 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

or courting technique

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 4 December 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

I've just had a long and apologetic voicemail from Phil, who asked me to pass on his message to those concerned. As for me, I would like to apologise to Cozen for snuggling up to him and making him sick. And for doubting his expertise in the law.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Sunday, 4 December 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

GLASGOW CAN FUCK OFF. HORRIBLE FUCKING PLACE.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

(because I work there and I don't want to have to go in tomorrow because I hate it)

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

(I am drunk and feeling sorry for myself)

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

snuggling up to him and making him sick

coo, the things you miss when you're at the citizens' with a six-year-old watching "charlotte's web" (which, incidentally, is astonishing and joyous and beautiful).

a painfully contrite phil asked me by e-mail to mention that he's not a complete knobhead. i can vouch for that: he really isn't. even though i get the impression he behaved like one last night.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

[sits very still and doesn't say much ever again]

― stet (stet), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

mooro-ver: i understand i met mooro on friday and didn't realise! apologies. i really am a tool.

my addled brane just remembers lucy saying: "something someone ILX somewhere" and me going: "TOP I SHALL BUY MORE BEER" and then having to make up the round on the spot at the bar because i couldn't remember what anybody wanted.

next time i shall try to have enough functioning brain cells to actually talk, mooro.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 4 December 2005 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

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