that's interesting that promising nothing applies to external stakeholders too - for me the no promises rule would only be for internal. with external it'd be just that the language we use is extremely clear - "must" is the law, "should" is advice, we tend to avoid any guidance that is entirely based on "should" as far as possible.
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 16:24 (nine years ago) link
i don't want to be too explicit here but let's just say for a long time there has been a mismatch between my sense of people's legal entitlements, best practice, and the resources of the organization i work for
― bombsover# (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link
a mismatch that is undoubtedly sector-wide i shd add
― bombsover# (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link
lol, like o'bama? barry o'bama's irish bar.
YES. This was at a time right after his first presidential election when the three blocks of government buildings that surrounded the government building where we worked were festooned with signs congratulating our hometown hero by name (spelled correctly) so that literally all she would have to do to double check her spelling was look out a window. Also we worked in this building:
http://interactive.wttw.com/sites/default/files/field/image/B13_a.jpg
which as you can see is mostly windows.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
i'm lucky in that my team is very hardcore in the way we support each other - we all have the same problems and there's lots of solidarity - plus some hilarious meetings.
same same same at my job
i was thinking recently how accustomed i am to having people lie to me -- like, all kinds of people, that i have almost reached the point where i can detect the structure of a lie as it unfolds
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
"coeds" for college girls
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
I always figure writers use "coeds" because it's a word that sparks erotic frenzy in men from an earlier era
― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
it's a) gross and b) archaic
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
I saw that word in a headline today and thought the same thing!
Even worse, the headline also included the word "groping".
― pplains, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link
yeeess I had real trouble understanding this usage when I was in the US.
LG I'm in a civil service (-adjacent) job too and the team really try to make sure we're writing in that active, plain way - it's something that is really appreciated by myself (joeks)Our copy editors are lovely but kind of unusual folks. There are a few bits and pieces from old style guides that had hung on for way too long that we used to argue about, like 'web-site'.
― kinder, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
it's not just the fellas gettin a education no more
― andrew m., Wednesday, 19 August 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link
PP, I know the exact article you reference and it pissed me off for several reasons.
― andrew m., Wednesday, 19 August 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
But that's for another thread. Or not.
― andrew m., Wednesday, 19 August 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
I didn't exactly faint from surprise that it was in there.
― pplains, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
dying @ o'bama
― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
"co-eds" still exists because it suits the needs of headline writers for short, punchy words that can substitute for several longer words and even the online world needs short punchy headlines
― Aimless, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
I am kind of surprised @ "coeds" still being used.
Ugh, do not search "coeds AND groping" at work!
― five six and (man alive), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
I'll just drop this here so no one has to search coeds groping. Got some real problems with this. Not just the headline.
http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2015/aug/19/deal-hit-in-ua-coed-s-bogus-groping-cla/
― andrew m., Wednesday, 19 August 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link
But again, don't wanna derail.
no one has to search coeds groping.
'course no one's forcing you...
― andrew m., Wednesday, 19 August 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
Can't stand when people say "Why does this not surprise me?" when they just mean "this doesn't surprise me" and it's obvious why.
― five six and (man alive), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link
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― Haino Corrida (NickB), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:02 (nine years ago) link
colocation different from collocation?
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link
colocation = two businesses/entities/schools/etc. sharing a facility.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link
oh did not know!
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link
Like when a for-profit charter school headed up by a famously evil woman person has taken over your entire 4th floor and is planning to engulf part of your 3rd floor, you are what's called a "co-located" school. Just as a hypothetical example.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link
i seedoes her name rhyme with whee?
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
good hypo xp (conveniently that worked both as "x-post" and an emoji of me wanting to barf on Eva Moskowitz)
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link
"close of play"
― conrad, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link
'what we talk about when we talk about ______'
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link
poor Raymond Carver...
― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link
That is annoying, in part because the original title relies on the assonance between 'what' and 'love' to give it balance. You can't just stick any word there and get the same effect.
― jmm, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link
yeah, I feel like I have posted about/we have discussed that somewhere before. I similarly hate "The Unbearable Lightness of ____" "A Farewell to ___" or pretty much any unearned use of a literary title, particularly where the new title has little to do with the referenced work other than sounding catchy.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link
When people refer to music —or any art, for that matter— as "smart."
― Austin, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link
Oddly, no one ever uses "Will You Please ___ Please" or "Where I'm ___ing From"
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link
'[cultural product] is a poor man's [more critically acclaimed cultural product]'
Mumford and Sons are a poor man's Fleet Foxes.
'I'll see your [cultural product] and raise you [more obscure cultural product]'
I see your Mumford and Sons, and raise you Trampled By Turtles.
subtext (for both): 'my taste is better than yours, [internet message board poster]!'
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link
The "see you __ and raise you __" one doesn't even make sense. If you see someone's bet of 10 and raise them 5, you're not saying 5 is better than 10.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:02 (eight years ago) link
OTM
― Austin, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
"Let's chat with [talk to] some of those folks [clients/vendors]. I'll send a note [an email]"
The needlessly precious terminology is getting irritating. I think it's to encourage a rapport with contacts that constantly feels like friends getting tea and "catching up", but it comes off as forced to me.
― Evan, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:19 (eight years ago) link
i prefer notes being sent over emails being shot
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link
Heh, that's fair.
― Evan, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link
Are you in the UK? In America all people doing any kind of business have spoken like they are always leaning back in their office chairs, about to launch a crumpled paper ball across the room into a trash can, for at least the last 25 years.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
No, I'm in America. But yeah that vibe is starting to grate more for me when forced.
― Evan, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link
stop using 'goals' as an adjective!
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Sunday, 6 December 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link
i.e. 'your hair is goals','your relationship is goals'. stop it.
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Sunday, 6 December 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link
That's a new one for me -- what does that mean? Usage demographic?
― La Lechuza (La Lechera), Sunday, 6 December 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link
Your hair looks great?
― La Lechuza (La Lechera), Sunday, 6 December 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link
basically 'I aspire to make my hair look as great as yours'. I'm pretty sure it started out as a hashtag but then people started inserting it into sentences because that's what people do on twitter.
― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Sunday, 6 December 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link
Well the good news is that it'll probably pass soon enough.
― La Lechuza (La Lechera), Sunday, 6 December 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link
New to me, too. I'm going to test it to see if I can annoy #goals
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 6 December 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link