2015 American Politics Thread: The 114th Congress Is in the House!

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in the cloakroom

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link

Yes, yes this should happen.

https://twitter.com/LisaDNews/status/652186642111967236

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

Speaker Chaffetz

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link

i mean how many cloaks do these fckers even HAVE anyways

forbidden fruitarian (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link

isnt romney the king of the fucking RINOs

I dont believe in anything anymore

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link

yeah even in the fantasy world of a non-congressperson Speaker, Romney is a laughable solution to this self-imposed dilemma. nobody likes him but i like that they're at the stage of desperation where convincing themselves that somewhere else in the republican party, far away from congress, there is a unifying champion waiting to ride in on horseback and save the day if only he is called forth. oddly, whatever this person is doing right now, they are not running for president because boy would that present an opportunity.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link

Trump for speaker

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link

oh... my god

http://www.redstate.com/2015/10/08/the-renee-ellmers-rumor-and-kevin-mccarthys-decision/

goole, Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link

There’s a guy out in America who has emails for a massive number of members of Congress and the email addresses of highly influential conservatives outside Congress.

A few days ago, he emailed out to 91 people, including these members of Congress, an email with a series of links to stories alleging a relationship between Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) 61% and Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC) 60% of North Carolina. It is worth nothing that the two deny a relationship.

But the email began circulating pretty heavily. Conservatives were buzzing about it. The first line pointed to the current scandal about Denny Hastert and concluded suggesting that if the rumor about McCarthy and his personal life were true, he was a national security risk.

goole, Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link

the first sentence of this article about how conservatives turned against their candidate for speak begins "There’s a guy out in America who has emails..."

goole, Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link

by all means read the comments and how they refer to Rep. Ellmers.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

consistent, engaged moderation is key to a thriving web community:

streiff Mod • 2 hours ago
it that is the case, McCarthy not only has poor judgment but a complete lack of ambition. If a powerful member of congress can't get better strange than Ellmers then he is not worthy of a leadership position.

goole, Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

gets worse

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link

I'm not clicking on a redstate link

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link

their purity scores embedded every time a congressman's name is listed are both distracting and disturbing

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link

MCCARTHY WITHDRAWS, DENIES ESSENCE TO CAUCUS

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link

this whole thing reminds me of those people that insist on owning dangerous wild animals as pets cuz they think it makes them cool and badass and in touch with real wild animals and then one day they get eaten by their dangerous wild animal pets

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/652211197840916483

BREAKING: BOEHNER IS PERSONALLY ASKING RYAN TO STEP UP AND BE SPEAKER, have spoken twice today by phone...

goole, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link

haha

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link

We cut to this live shot of Boehner in this office:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/dMbcOC5dS5k/hqdefault.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link

:D

https://twitter.com/laurennfrench/status/652177633770348545

Pelosi on speaker race: "I’m sure they’ll find somebody who is capable of accepting the honor."

goole, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link

love ya Nan, never change

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link

WELL THEN

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2573731

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 October 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link

"Maybe this is a time for Newt Gingrich to come back with a flurry of ideas and a new contract that would advance a conservative agenda to help the country solve these horrible problems," Hannity told Gingrich.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 8 October 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link

YESSSSS

space stations a-go-go!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 October 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link

Gingrich used "practical" and "House Republican Caucus" in the same sentence.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 October 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link

on the other hand, he knows how to count

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 October 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link

the House GOP Caucus meanwhile can't read or write

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 October 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link

"If you were to say to me 218 have called you up and given you their pledge, obviously no citizen could ever turn down that kind of challenge. This is why George Washington came out of retirement — because there are moments you can't avoid."

Keep aiming for the stars, Newt.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 8 October 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link

this is the most fun politics has been in a while imo

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 8 October 2015 22:54 (nine years ago) link

I wonder what it would take for the GOP to really, literally splinter - if a majority of the GOP caucus just said "fuck you guys, we're voting with whatever Democrats we can get" and just ignored the Freedom Caucus's demands outright. I mean it's not gonna happen but I just wonder how bad things would have to get for party unity to be completely destroyed.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 October 2015 22:57 (nine years ago) link

because at this point GOP party unity is achieving literally nothing

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 October 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link

loool

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 October 2015 23:21 (nine years ago) link

lol

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 8 October 2015 23:24 (nine years ago) link

I wonder what it would take for the GOP to really, literally splinter - if a majority of the GOP caucus just said "fuck you guys, we're voting with whatever Democrats we can get" and just ignored the Freedom Caucus's demands outright. I mean it's not gonna happen but I just wonder how bad things would have to get for party unity to be completely destroyed.

My guess is that the freedom caucus tea party types are literal death cultists, and having tasted blood won't vote for any leader other than one of their own. Is anyone allowed on the floor ballot other than the two party nominees?

pizza rolls are a food that exists (silby), Friday, 9 October 2015 00:39 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/652206597876256769

lol

balls, Friday, 9 October 2015 02:07 (nine years ago) link

uh, doesn't the speaker have to be a sitting congressperson?!?!? what's with the romney and gingrich stuff?

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 9 October 2015 02:23 (nine years ago) link

speaker only has to be over 25, like w/ car rentals

balls, Friday, 9 October 2015 02:24 (nine years ago) link

2015 American Politics Thread: The 114th Congress Is in the House!

pplains, Friday, 9 October 2015 02:25 (nine years ago) link

I don't see why Democrats would help elect a Republican - once in office he'd still kowtow to his caucus and it's not like Republicans wouldn't back him if the Democrats tried to unseat him.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 9 October 2015 02:41 (nine years ago) link

well whaddya know

The Constitution does not require that the Speaker be an elected House Representative, though all Speakers have been an elected Member of Congress.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 9 October 2015 02:44 (nine years ago) link

yeah allen west picked up some protest votes last time around and he'd already lost his seat

balls, Friday, 9 October 2015 02:45 (nine years ago) link

similarly there are rumours of a draft eric cantor movement afoot which would be so fucking hilarious

would imagine any deal between moderate republicans (which is who again exactly?_ and dems would carry with it certain concessions on what would be brought to the floor for a vote (ie no hastert rule), debt limit, etc. even then think any republicans that went w/ it would be guaranteeing they'd be primaried next year, which in theory might be benefit enough for dems - either those republicans get picked off by some tea party maniac that can't win in the general (presuming tea party challengers have picked off any moderate/establishment gop congressmen they stood a chance at beating by now)(which may be a presumption too far - cantor just lost last year) or the moderate wins and their support is depressed. i'm not sure how i'd feel about a ryan speakership (other than him declining it so far as well as opting out of running for president might mean he really is the brains of the gop), it could obv destroy him (someone somewhere was comparing it to the king's hand in game of thrones and saying ryan's not stupid, he saw what happened to ned stark) but there is the possibility that he unites the party enough and manages to pass and sell a conservative agenda more effectively than any recent gop speaker. idk. do think even if he does stay out it would be funny if dems voted for him anyway and see if they can spook some republicans into voting for him. it's not like you have to have the permission of the person you're voting for speaker to vote for them, i'm pretty sure john lewis didn't give john barrow permission to vote for him so the gop couldn't use 'he voted for pelosi!' against him.

balls, Friday, 9 October 2015 02:57 (nine years ago) link


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