It's set in a fictional universe where physics operate entirely differently. SW has never claimed to be hard sci-fi.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link
I was just curious about something I was sure some nerd came up with an answer for, not really concerned about scientific versimilitude or anything
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
is Ree Yees in it
http://www.rebelscum.com/Gentle_Giant_Ltd/ree-yees_mini_bust/header.jpg
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
but if star wars isn't real then all the organizing principles of my life are wrong
― 1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo(does this mean yes?)
― 1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
adopt a strong principle of disorganization
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
mh analysis a+, nice one
I also am interested in the voice talking to Ren at the beginning and end "Who are you?" "The force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." Do we know who that voice is?
I'm exciting by the possibility of these characters (Ren, Boyega) having that Skywalker discovery of something bigger than themselves, journeys to find a purpose etc. The characters were the heart of the original trilogy, and the suggestion that we may get back to some of that kind of storytelling feels good
Han's "it's real" makes me so teary, I love it.
I am excited, hopeful...I feel all the good feelings about this so far
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
Shot-by-shot breakdown for us obsessives: http://io9.com/heres-a-shot-by-shot-breakdown-of-all-the-goodies-in-th-1737486310
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
1:1 we get a re-reprise of "I love you" "I know"
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
The characters were the heart of the original trilogy,
they were?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
this is news to me
Think that's Lupita N'yongo.
― how's life, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link
xpost ok cool shakey you tell me your version
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--FJTCpHOC--/1482363533917918891.gif
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Lz-4ff5N--/1482366259727175461.gif
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link
just planting the seeds for the inevitable crossoveryou laugh, but we'll see it in our lifetime
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
if anything it's good design that drives the original trilogy. The characters and their arcs are barely there at all (which is not to say that Hamill, Ford and Fisher don't try their best with the clunky dialogue and limited interactions they're given to work with)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
I'm not a sci-fi nerd and even I know that Star Wars takes place in the past relative to human existence and Star Trek takes place in the future. I guess they've already fuxxed with time travel, though.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
having recently watched Fury Road it kind of reminded me of Star Wars in terms of how much information can be conveyed and how much audience engagement can be generated solely by good art direction/costuming/character design/set design etc. Fury Road is better with the constant forward-motion action sequences but there's def a bit of that in play in the original SW trilogy as well. Characters are like third down the list of things that work in those movies, imo.
xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
i wonder if Ford did a *callback* on-set w/ "You can write this shit JJ, but you sure can't say it"
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
man i forget how pedantic these conversations get
Luke's journey, his relationship to Vader, to Obi Wan, his relationship Leia, Leia's relationship to Han, were what the story is about. However poorly realized that story/those characters may be to you, ok fine, whatever... but it's not a newsflash
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
I'm not a sci-fi nerd and even I know that Star Wars takes place in the past relative to human existence and Star Trek takes place in the future.
It happened a long time ago relative to when the story of Star Wars is being told. The Magical Storytelling Crawl could still exist in our far future.
― Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
imo the trek/wars xover happens in a few decades when the multiplexes finally sag under their own weight and both franchises have been wrung nearly dry of goodwillsort of a last play to get the kind of insane press and rabid TAKE MY MONEY ticketsales
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
star trek has imo been wrung dry at this point bc tbh abrams fucked them up. i suspect he'll do a better job here, iirc he's on record saying he's not a trek fan at all but is a star wars obsessive.
― nomar, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
Can't wait to see Luke get frozen in carbonite and Han get his hand cut off.
― Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
hahahttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRxm_gOXAAEN835.jpg
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
The other extended, canon universe thing that comes to mind is that there are a number of non-Jedi, non-Sith groups who had some capability with the force. Vader fan crew might think they're Sith or something, but they could just be weirdo Vader-worshiping acolytes.
The other thing that seems to be stressed is that the force likes balance. The book that kind of covers the rise of Palpatine luckily only briefly touched on the biology (not going to type that m-word) of force sensitives, but he and his master had this plan where they meditated for years to somehow push the balance of the force to the dark side. Then Palpy was going to be the figurehead and run the republic while his master held the real dark side power or w/e. Some time after Anakin is born, they realize his birth lines up with the time they were doing their meditation and realize that they missed something.
Of course, then Palpatine slaughters his master shortly after, and the dude they were training as a secret assassin (who wasn't master or apprentice, but just their pawn) steps in as Darth Maul, and then the prequel mess happened.
So if Luke has been in exile and the dark side is rising, then something is going to break
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link
just rlly looking fwd to Triumph the Insult Comic Dog working the line
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link
love Triumph
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link
he would probably tell me how tragic it is to know so much about Star Wars and so little about going outdoors
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
Barbra Streisand.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link
You can see the rear of Adam Driver's head sans Sith mask in the shot near the end where he approaches Boyega. I have no idea how it's going to play in the actual film, but I kinda dig how Boyega's playing it; his expression reads to me as a terrified/panicked/excited "oh shit here we go here we go here we go"
But this is a trailer designed to sell the movie to folks who weren't already gunna see it anyway.
As for how fast/loud everything seems, yeah, trailers are cut differently than they were and they figured out how to tighten the quick bits, I guess.
At this point, I'm kinda looking forward more to the new Fallout game in terms of genre releases this winter than a new SW flick, but if they can pull something off, I'll be happy. Hell, just entertain me as much as the Kotor games or Genndy's animated series and I'll be happy.
Didn't buy a ticket, but I'm lucky to live in Portland with a great single-screen local-owned joint right up the road to see it in and I won't hafta put up with multiplex bollocks that makes me want to just burn everything down.
― Purves Grundy (kingfish), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link
John Boyega on Storm Troopering: "I'm getting too old for this shit"
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:27 (nine years ago) link
Stimpy, presumably?
― Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link
But this is a trailer designed to sell the movie to folks who weren't already gunna see it anyway
this is an odd conclusion
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
i see Billy Dee Williams gets a lotta SW cartoon voice work.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
huh, for some reason I'd assumed his lines were done by a soundalike
they did get James Earl Jones in for some lines in the newest season of the cartoon, which is a coup on their part
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
Adam Driver is forever gonna be adam from girls in my mind and i am looking forward to him glaring at whoever and doing the whole "YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE DARK SIDE JON SNOW" bit all brooklyn hipster style
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
just don't ever use "A New Hope" in front of me.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
Adam Driver is playing an earthbound 17th-century Jesuit Jedi in the new Scorsese
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
RLM's trailer reaction video is very good.
― jmm, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
i like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1pn4bTAQWA
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
It's Disney telling you to open your wallets. You know you want to see this movie anyways, just let it happen.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link
honestly Lucas should have done this after Empire. we would be on the 2nd reboot of the entire franchise by now.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
man there are a lot of characters in this movie, huh? i mean there are enough new actors to fill equivalents to all the roles in the original trilogy... plus the actors from that trilogy as well. seems like it'd be overstuffed along the lines of a lot of contemporary franchise films. i predict lots of manic cross-cutting.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
as long as they give Ello Asty a proper arc
― Number None, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
those old-timey serial wipes better be doubletime
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
they could alternate left- and right-wipes, and then parody the fast-paced nature mid film by doing both at the same time and meeting in the middle
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
the wipes in the trailer really bothered me actually, they don't really achieve an "old-timey" effect for me and look power-pointish
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 20:50 (nine years ago) link
is Lobot in this
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link