Star Wars 7 shit talk

I'm not a sci-fi nerd and even I know that Star Wars takes place in the past relative to human existence and Star Trek takes place in the future. I guess they've already fuxxed with time travel, though.

having recently watched Fury Road it kind of reminded me of Star Wars in terms of how much information can be conveyed and how much audience engagement can be generated solely by good art direction/costuming/character design/set design etc. Fury Road is better with the constant forward-motion action sequences but there's def a bit of that in play in the original SW trilogy as well. Characters are like third down the list of things that work in those movies, imo.

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i wonder if Ford did a *callback* on-set w/ "You can write this shit JJ, but you sure can't say it"

man i forget how pedantic these conversations get

Luke's journey, his relationship to Vader, to Obi Wan, his relationship Leia, Leia's relationship to Han, were what the story is about. However poorly realized that story/those characters may be to you, ok fine, whatever... but it's not a newsflash

I'm not a sci-fi nerd and even I know that Star Wars takes place in the past relative to human existence and Star Trek takes place in the future.

It happened a long time ago relative to when the story of Star Wars is being told. The Magical Storytelling Crawl could still exist in our far future.

imo the trek/wars xover happens in a few decades when the multiplexes finally sag under their own weight and both franchises have been wrung nearly dry of goodwill
sort of a last play to get the kind of insane press and rabid TAKE MY MONEY ticketsales

star trek has imo been wrung dry at this point bc tbh abrams fucked them up. i suspect he'll do a better job here, iirc he's on record saying he's not a trek fan at all but is a star wars obsessive.

Can't wait to see Luke get frozen in carbonite and Han get his hand cut off.

haha
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRxm_gOXAAEN835.jpg

The other extended, canon universe thing that comes to mind is that there are a number of non-Jedi, non-Sith groups who had some capability with the force. Vader fan crew might think they're Sith or something, but they could just be weirdo Vader-worshiping acolytes.

The other thing that seems to be stressed is that the force likes balance. The book that kind of covers the rise of Palpatine luckily only briefly touched on the biology (not going to type that m-word) of force sensitives, but he and his master had this plan where they meditated for years to somehow push the balance of the force to the dark side. Then Palpy was going to be the figurehead and run the republic while his master held the real dark side power or w/e. Some time after Anakin is born, they realize his birth lines up with the time they were doing their meditation and realize that they missed something.

Of course, then Palpatine slaughters his master shortly after, and the dude they were training as a secret assassin (who wasn't master or apprentice, but just their pawn) steps in as Darth Maul, and then the prequel mess happened.

So if Luke has been in exile and the dark side is rising, then something is going to break

just rlly looking fwd to Triumph the Insult Comic Dog working the line

love Triumph

he would probably tell me how tragic it is to know so much about Star Wars and so little about going outdoors

I also am interested in the voice talking to Ren at the beginning and end "Who are you?" "The force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." Do we know who that voice is?

Barbra Streisand.

You can see the rear of Adam Driver's head sans Sith mask in the shot near the end where he approaches Boyega. I have no idea how it's going to play in the actual film, but I kinda dig how Boyega's playing it; his expression reads to me as a terrified/panicked/excited "oh shit here we go here we go here we go"

But this is a trailer designed to sell the movie to folks who weren't already gunna see it anyway.

As for how fast/loud everything seems, yeah, trailers are cut differently than they were and they figured out how to tighten the quick bits, I guess.

At this point, I'm kinda looking forward more to the new Fallout game in terms of genre releases this winter than a new SW flick, but if they can pull something off, I'll be happy. Hell, just entertain me as much as the Kotor games or Genndy's animated series and I'll be happy.

Didn't buy a ticket, but I'm lucky to live in Portland with a great single-screen local-owned joint right up the road to see it in and I won't hafta put up with multiplex bollocks that makes me want to just burn everything down.

John Boyega on Storm Troopering: "I'm getting too old for this shit"

I also am interested in the voice talking to Ren at the beginning and end "Who are you?" "The force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." Do we know who that voice is?

Stimpy, presumably?

But this is a trailer designed to sell the movie to folks who weren't already gunna see it anyway

this is an odd conclusion

i see Billy Dee Williams gets a lotta SW cartoon voice work.

huh, for some reason I'd assumed his lines were done by a soundalike

they did get James Earl Jones in for some lines in the newest season of the cartoon, which is a coup on their part

Adam Driver is forever gonna be adam from girls in my mind and i am looking forward to him glaring at whoever and doing the whole "YOU KNOW NOTHING OF THE DARK SIDE JON SNOW" bit all brooklyn hipster style

just don't ever use "A New Hope" in front of me.

Adam Driver is playing an earthbound 17th-century Jesuit Jedi in the new Scorsese

RLM's trailer reaction video is very good.

i like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1pn4bTAQWA

I also am interested in the voice talking to Ren at the beginning and end "Who are you?" "The force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." Do we know who that voice is?

It's Disney telling you to open your wallets. You know you want to see this movie anyways, just let it happen.

honestly Lucas should have done this after Empire. we would be on the 2nd reboot of the entire franchise by now.

man there are a lot of characters in this movie, huh? i mean there are enough new actors to fill equivalents to all the roles in the original trilogy... plus the actors from that trilogy as well. seems like it'd be overstuffed along the lines of a lot of contemporary franchise films. i predict lots of manic cross-cutting.

as long as they give Ello Asty a proper arc

those old-timey serial wipes better be doubletime

they could alternate left- and right-wipes, and then parody the fast-paced nature mid film by doing both at the same time and meeting in the middle

the wipes in the trailer really bothered me actually, they don't really achieve an "old-timey" effect for me and look power-pointish

is Lobot in this

finally the only question that matters

Best part of that RLM bit was the background chatter where they are trying to identify the character based on the ... feminine garb? And then one guys says "you know, there might be more than one girl in this movie." And the other guy goes "well, it is Star Wars."

Lobot is in that Lando comic series

it is sad, though

don't cry, Lobot!

http://media1.giphy.com/media/5SEx3MCeW2gTu/giphy.gif

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/8/81/BlackFleetCrisis.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070706100117

one of the many cool things about Kershner's direction of TESB: no explanations. Here's a weird bald mute dude wearing headphones who sleeps standing up and awakens suddenly when someone calls. Maybe it was a cool New Wave tune idk

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/7/70/Lobot_TCG_by_Barger.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131007195732

big Gary Numan fan iirc

collect em all

http://theswca.com/db/stephane/lobot_mecc_esb.jpg

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/what-if-the-new-star-wars-sucks-too-1737539377

this is a pretty on point article.

those dr dre headphones are a real eye opener for sure imo

I used Lobot often during the eighties, often as fleet commander/human collaborator with Transformers, Thundercats, etc.

Best part of that RLM bit was the background chatter where they are trying to identify the character based on the ... feminine garb? And then one guys says "you know, there might be more than one girl in this movie." And the other guy goes "well, it is Star Wars."

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, October 20, 2015 4:18 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The original trilogy is kind of fueled by a subtext of everyone sexually competing for Leia -- Luke, Han, Vader, Jabba, Lando, even the Storm Troopers.

were you a teenage lobotomy?

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and three of the worst major motion pictures ever made.

oh come on