ace poster when it was first announced mind
http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Return-of-the-Jedi-Poster-2-05032015.jpg
― piscesx, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 00:04 (eight years ago) link
^^ a Burger King collector's cup waiting to happen
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 00:08 (eight years ago) link
just realized I want a space pirate SW film directed by Robert Rodriguez
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 00:59 (eight years ago) link
dude, totally.STAR KIDSfor that, i would buy advance tickets
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link
http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltr73nHgDf1qzgpx9.gif
― balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 01:54 (eight years ago) link
ha, there's alot of RONG and rmde in the deadspin piece (go figure) but this is great:
After wearing Luke out with furious lightsaber skills from one end of Cloud City to the other; after bashing him to a pulp with flying space toasters; after blasting Luke out of a window and chasing him out to the end of a lonely windblown plank far from everyone who has ever known or cared about him, he lops the little pissant’s entire hand right the fuck off and then, then, only then, figures the time is right to go, Oh and also, I fucked your mom.
― balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:06 (eight years ago) link
I haven't really thought about Star Wars in years, but after reading this thread and thinking about it, I've decided The Wrath of Khan>>>>>>Return of the Jedi
― JacobSanders, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link
was that ever in doubt?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:20 (eight years ago) link
That poster is incredible.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link
Khan is better than all the Star Wars movies
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link
btw is Scanners the best use of The Force in a context outside Star Wars?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link
love this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tP5tZ_ekXs
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:26 (eight years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, October 20, 2015 10:22 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Def all but Empire. Empire is really amazing though.
I would have a hard time picking. Yoda and the whole Dagoba thing is incredible. The Luke-Vader reveal at its most shocking. The extreme chiaroscuro lightsaber fights. Millennium Falcon pulling out the incredible asteroid belt chase. So many brilliant moments. The ending shot is insanely beautiful.
Khan is classic and has the better performances but the world design in Star Wars is formidable.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link
There are several points in Khan where the film really slows to a crawl and characters just sit down and reflect. Which is not bad, it's a different movie, but Empire has a more engaging pacing imo.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:31 (eight years ago) link
impossible to give a shit about kirk's son in khan; not sure there's a comparable weakness in empire. otherwise a masterpiece obv.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link
i'll go empire over khan also but as someone who was on board w/ star wars literally almost as far back as i can remember and someone who only really watched tos a couple of years ago and always kinda scoffed at star trek in general (though i somehow ended up seeing all the movies and enjoying most of them) i will say the kirk-spock-bones interplay TOWERS over luke-leia-han. kirk also more of a badass than han though han way more plausible a ladykiller (nevermind lando).
― balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link
I don't mind it -- Khan has a good script, and as a result those hanging out scenes with Kirk and the crew are Shatner at his most likable imo.
Empire is a visual triumph.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link
i will say the kirk-spock-bones interplay TOWERS over luke-leia-han.
star trek has people in it.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:37 (eight years ago) link
I was seven when Khan was released (a big deal too -- I remember it was the movie that Trekkies thought it was the movie of their dreams), so can't remember how loud the scoffing was at Mr. Rourke playing a supervillain.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:37 (eight years ago) link
* uh, the movie of Trekkies' dreams
is Montalban's Melville quote the best delivery of this line? Better than Gregory Peck's at any rate.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:38 (eight years ago) link
xps- not that the characters are much deeper than star wars' as written (tho i agree the hegelian spock-bones-kirk relationship is way more important than sw's campbell stuff) but the actors had had so much time to build out the roles.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:40 (eight years ago) link
all of montalban's deliveries are the best deliveries.
from a tos purist perspective khan is actually kind of a sellout, right -- straight hornblower space opera instead of high-concept exploration. star wars with olds. but then i guess the tos purist knows the whole point is the crew anyway.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:41 (eight years ago) link
THIIIS IS CEETI ALPHA V!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:43 (eight years ago) link
i feel bad now cuz my uncle who knew i LOVED star wars took me to the star trek movie thinking i know 'alright kid, get ready for the real deal', he wasn't a trekkie but he loved trek, and man five year old or whatever me was just not on board w/ star trek: the motion picture. i know when i was a little kid i used to say 'i'm bored' alot, almost reflexively, and i can't even imagine what a little turd i was coming out of that thing.
― balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:43 (eight years ago) link
yeah i think from the tos perspective the movies were way too militaristic (although they address this kinda in khan!); that kinda hornblower stuff is catnip for me though, if/when i get old i'm pretty much just gonna sit around w/ my dogs and read patrick o'brian novels all day.
― balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:45 (eight years ago) link
pretty sure the cast said the same thing
xpost
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:45 (eight years ago) link
my pet amongst the towering montalban inflections is "of course! we are one big happy fleet!"
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:46 (eight years ago) link
There's that moment when Chekhov and the Paul Winfield character realize Khan is serious about putting those worms in their helmets when the camera cuts to Montalban not going for the grand effect but standing with a small, deeply satisfied grin that's more evil than any Palpatine cackle.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:48 (eight years ago) link
It's really a funny comparison, since Star Trek is all about looking back in that movie. They have Kirk's birthday and the old man glasses. There is a lot of "We're getting too old for this" in the Bones-Kirk talk. And they bring back an old villain from the show. It's funny since Star Wars seems to be the most unashamedly self-cannibalizing nowadays.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:48 (eight years ago) link
Montalban's Khan definitely better than all of the SW villains.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:49 (eight years ago) link
Emperor Palpatine's menace always undercut by the fact that he tends to deliver his lines like he's the lead vocalist for The Trashmen
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link
vader's pretty awesome in empire
― balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link
The Abrams trek flicks are kinda pathetic in how they're unable to forge an original path imo. And the whole alternate timeline thing is such bs.
― nomar, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link
much love for grand moff tarkin also fwiw
― balls, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link
Imperial Walkers had some serious design flaws
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link
Vader kills half of his officers.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:52 (eight years ago) link
the emperor is a lesser prototype for dourif's wormtongue
― nomar, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:52 (eight years ago) link
"It would be unfortunate if I had to leave a garrison here."
I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Vader's chosen managerial style
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link
the only effective empire military officer was afaik the general who led the hoth attack
― nomar, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link
Vader tends to ice people quicker prior to 3 years of vesting service so he can roll their pensions back into the plan
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link
there's a recurring shot of g.m. tarkin in profile, fingers to chin, watching the battle of yavin, that pops into the battle sequence from time to time and iirc is also the last or second-to-last shot before the death star blows up: i love this shot
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link
Love how Kershner shows Vader without a helmet w/out, again, explaining. He could have filmed Vader kickin it with a scotch in his chambers; instead we realize Vader is human after all.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link
That scene w Vader putting his helmet on was insane.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link
as a kid I thought, "Aw, he didn't even know he was killed."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:55 (eight years ago) link
in the early '80s mega franchise sweepstakes, rank the following:
KhanDarth VaderGeneral Zod
Vader's unhelmeted orange-tinted melon head gave me nightmares as a kid
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link
vader often mordantly funny in empire. pray i don't alter it any further.
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link