It's like going to a popular bar in a port of trade and wondering why there's one dude there from Brazil, one from China, and a bunch of locals.
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:21 (nine years ago) link
and in ESB there's the briefest of glimpses of the AT-ST fighter that'll play a big part in the Endor battle.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link
I feel like this is probably not an original statement, but a lot of what I love about Star Wars is just its success at hinting at a much larger and very real universe (or galaxy or w/e) of which the movies only scratch the surface
Also not a very original observation, but this is one reason why the prequels sucked: in this allegedly vast and real universe the same 5 characters keep meeting up/being involved in everything important that happens; it makes the original films' rich texture feel very thin
― as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link
when the bounty hunter in ROTJ turns out to be leia it's that hinted limitlessness that makes the reveal feel like such a miracle - like, out of all the bounty hunters in all the crappy gin joints in all the universe somehow leia has wound up here?? impossible
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
have disliked star wars since age 4
― it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
So you've hated it for 2 whole years?!?
― as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link
Not enough references in SW to the demographic trends leading to rebel support in outer rim planets for gabbneb.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 October 2015 00:26 (nine years ago) link
You should go harder on the German angle
― it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Thursday, 22 October 2015 00:26 (nine years ago) link
He says, after soaking his extremities in ice water for no less than five minutes, followed by a generous treatment of aloe and petroleum jelly, and then taking the better part of an hour typing out 39 characters with digits covered in gauze
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Thursday, 22 October 2015 00:38 (nine years ago) link
― it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:37 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You have trolled us for the last time, GABBNEB!
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 00:45 (nine years ago) link
As someone who liked the pre-prequels extended universe more than the movies (the Thrawn trilogy esp) has anyone created a convoluted but convincing explanation as to how the Empire became the dominant power and the old, creaky, bureaucratic Empire in the span of 20 years?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 22 October 2015 01:17 (nine years ago) link
The institution of a flat tax
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 01:19 (nine years ago) link
I think it was just b/c the Old Republic was the dominant power, and it was usurped from within. Tarkin mentions that the Senate has been dissolved and regional governors now have direct control.
― Purves Grundy (kingfish), Thursday, 22 October 2015 01:20 (nine years ago) link
It always aggravated the shit out of me that S-Palp is so easily able to dupe everybody in all three films...
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 01:25 (nine years ago) link
Prequels that is
Anakin's defection reduced to a moment of "ahh, fuck it..."
I mean Anakin was always spoken of in reverent terms in the original trilogy who lost his way to the Dark side....
And yet there isn't a moment in the prequels where he isn't a petulant hotheaded, selfish piece of shit that commits genocide in a village in a fit of anger and has extremely creepy obsession with Padme that she for no discernible reason reciprocates.
I know people are revered in death etc but they really shat on his character arc
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 01:38 (nine years ago) link
There is not a single motivation anyone has in the prequels which make any sense.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:10 (nine years ago) link
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, October 21, 2015 8:45 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'm not trolling. the stormtroopers made me cry. a few years later, i was afraid of the stove at a place we spent the night on vacation because it looked like darth vader's helmet.
turns out i had a pretty good instinct about shitty fucking coca-cola/windows movies.
― it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:12 (nine years ago) link
or you were a four year old that was scared of shit once
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:17 (nine years ago) link
and an instinct for shitty fucking coca-cola/windows politicians
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:22 (nine years ago) link
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:22 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
welcome to america. i'm not choosing what movie to see/band to like when i vote, the great category error of the alternative-favorers.
(i'll pass on the stupid misjudgment of people you don't know)
― it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:29 (nine years ago) link
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:17 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
or, you know, both
Thank you for taking the time to share your moral stance with us. You are both brave and an inspiration.
― Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:42 (nine years ago) link
and have pointed out that you have been otm in this thread
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:07 (nine years ago) link
which are you. don't believe me? ask you!
*you are. got me so upset I'm typing backwards
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:08 (nine years ago) link
being scared of the villains in a movie isn't really "disliking" it imo
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:13 (nine years ago) link
I had vivid nightmares about Sesame Street as a kid and I still watched the fuck out of it
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:15 (nine years ago) link
(usually the Count, but weirdly had one w/ Grover and another with Big Bird)
really hoping this is all the setup to baggles declaring his intention to become a stormtrooper-themed superhero, to strike terror into the hearts of his enemies
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:32 (nine years ago) link
i haven't been reading this thread because lol but the part in the trailer that made me cringe was mr. ren going "i will finish what you started" to vader's mask like wtf did vader start? did anyone alive at the end of ROTJ other than luke ever see him as more than just a prominent military leader? dude wasn't like spreading pamphlets about the dark side all over foreign planets or leading any seminars
― qualx, Thursday, 22 October 2015 03:57 (nine years ago) link
He's planning a trip to the imperial VA to kill off any surviving officers
― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Thursday, 22 October 2015 04:00 (nine years ago) link
ren is supposed to be some sort of sith scholar/collector/obsessive, no?
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Thursday, 22 October 2015 04:02 (nine years ago) link
he's going to lust after women that babysat him when he was young
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 04:08 (nine years ago) link
kind of insane we learned absolutely nothing about the sith in the prequel trilogy.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 04:14 (nine years ago) link
would you say it's.... pretty sneaky?
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 October 2015 06:10 (nine years ago) link
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:14 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
kind of insane we learned absolutely nothing about anticipating new star wars movies after the prequel trilogy.
― dave cool goes to "Chill Whiney" Ironic dance parties (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 22 October 2015 06:21 (nine years ago) link
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
tears don't really express fear btw fyi
― Sabato Gigante (benbbag), Thursday, 22 October 2015 06:23 (nine years ago) link
oh im not anticipating this. prequels ruined it for me, i definitely learned my lesson. ill probably torrent it
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 07:11 (nine years ago) link
actually ROTJ Special Edition new song and dance is what ruined it for me.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 October 2015 07:12 (nine years ago) link
I appreciate scepticism of blockbusters and giant franchise machines in general, but considering the person / producers responsible for the prequels or the meddling with the special editions have nothing to do with this it's not really relevant experience.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 22 October 2015 09:23 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, because JJ Abrams has never ever fucked up an old revered sci-fi franchise :)
I try to pay attention, because everyone else is paying attention, I read this enormous thread, for instance, but I'm beginning to realize how little I care. Mainly because people use character names already, and I have no idea who they're talking about, and even how they know?
― Frederik B, Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:13 (nine years ago) link
There are sites that you can go to, which will tell you, if you seek them out. You are not unfamiliar with the idea that there will be seekers?
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:14 (nine years ago) link
Like, in quidditch?
― Frederik B, Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:20 (nine years ago) link
In fairness, that is also an answer to the question.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:31 (nine years ago) link
Well, it's simple:
HillaryBernie Sanders = Democratic nominees
TrumpJeb!CarsonRubioothers = GOP
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:48 (nine years ago) link
Seems like there be more sex scenes in star wars, especially greedo sex scenes
― 1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2015 10:55 (nine years ago) link
yes! Ewok song re-cast as a Peruvian pan flute tune was a big let down. My son wanted to re-watch this, but I dread it because these changes are so horrible. Why can't we have the old school tunes?
― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Thursday, 22 October 2015 12:22 (nine years ago) link
― Frederik B, Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:13 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This has been a thing since at least ROTJ and possibly even Empire. I'm sure I knew who half the dudes in Jabba's throneroom were before I ever saw them onscreen. It is a little ridiculous this time around, though, I agree (see the mention upthread about Halloween costumes for characters we don't know anything about yet...what if you're unknowingly dressing your kid up like a space racist???).
― Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 12:30 (nine years ago) link
I distinctly remember, maybe a year or so before Phantom Menace was released, reading speculation online and being intrigued by mentions of this new character named Jar Jar Binks.
― Don't Call Me A Lunkhead, You Dingbat! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 12:36 (nine years ago) link