Star Wars 7 shit talk

evidence of my Chewbacca/Leia child theory imo

The first Star Wars films I saw were the re-releases in 97. I think overall they are better than the original versions, including the ROTJ songs, from what I've seen on youtube.

^^^ result of over a decade of ilx challop research

Is that bit where Jabba/Han reprise the previous scene's Greedo/Han dialogue still in the redone version of Star Wars? Bc that ws The Worst, makes Jar Jar look like brilliance

the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

I watched the despecialized version of IV last night, it was p great, looks pristine

ROTJ had the best space battles

The only alteration I'll defend is the Palpatine-Vader chat in ESB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaBlw1gNWdg

Chimp-eyed woman totally creepier. The old dialogue is also more vague, and therefore more interesting.

More obvious Vader and Palps are bullshitting each other in second version.

the master/apprentice relationship with the sith is such a web of lies

So I downloaded ROTJ blu-ray (15 gb) and the despecialized version (15 gb). I have them running side-by-side.

The color difference is remarkable. The official version has so much magenta where red should be and bluish-white where white should be. Human skin looks like everyone took a bath in hot water.

Ultimately it comes down to people's saturation preferences but tv's do that on their own nowadays. You can switch tv display to movie, livid, sports, etc.
That's why vanilla might be the way to go.

honestly it all depends on the scene. some scenes look better specialized and some despecialized

Okay, this is the 4th post in a row but the despecialized version looks way better than the official blu-ray in most cases.

COOL FIND BROS. Can you tell I'm excited?

https://medium.com/@robconery/luke-skywalker-sith-lord-f8a11072f246#.1nv6djy24

I could sorta see this. The type of twist that JJ Abrams could get into...

In that scene, Palpatine played on the sympathies of Anakin to cut Windu’s hands off so he could toss Windu out the window.

In this scene, Luke plays his dad in the exact same way to toss the emperor into the abyss. Ahh symbolism.

Screaming in pain and begging for help while being tortured = "playing" his dad?

i would be okay with evil luke, especially if hammill does the joker voice

I got the despecialized version last night as well. Watched "Star Wars". Wow - looks amaaaazing.

I do like the idea of Luke being a fallen Jedi, but to claim that he ends ROTJ having given in to the dark side is a stretch. It doesn't make sense for the movie to end with a big celebration if Luke has turned to the dark side. A level of irony would have to be operating that never otherwise occurs in Star Wars.

I also don't see that there are any serious problems with the obvious interpretation, that he's succeeded at the last moment in stepping back from temptation. If the temptation continued to haunt him and he eventually succumbed, that would be a nice twist.

Force Awakens opens with Luke blowing up Endor

*horn fanfare*
*text scrolls*
EPISODE VII: THE FORCE AWAKENS

So Luke blew up the Ewoks and he's a fucking Sith Lord now, can ya fuckin believe it???

also Han Solo is black now

The RedLetterMedia guys put out a commentary track for Jedi and I never noticed Carrie Fisher's cocaine fingernail before:

http://io9.com/5947334/and-now-princess-leias-coke-nail-from-return-of-the-jedi

imo the "I will finish what you started" line from the trailer most likely refers to Vader's day job of killing the rest of the jedi

small chance that the task at hand is "finish turning Luke to the dark side"

I love the idea of Luke being the ultimate baddie of the new trilogy, not sure Disney has the balls for that though.

Most Mark Hamill's best-known post-SW roles have been bad guys (The Joker, Ozai, Trickster, etc), so it'd be cool to see him play an evil Luke.

mark hamill doesn't look cool enough

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/30/1406737736295_wps_9_US_actor_Mark_Hamill_atte.jpg

Join me, and together we can tour mid-sized theaters as roadies for Hot Tuna.

excelsior

can't wait for him to deliver the "I can't recall ever having a droid" line right before R2 zaps him and he cracks up laughing

has this been posted? this thread is fritzing my browser so who the heck knows

http://www.avclub.com/article/watch-mark-hamill-basically-pitch-evil-luke-skywal-227192

My wild-ass guess is that Luke Skywalker is actually going to be dead in this movie's continuity, and any scenes in which Mark Hamill appears will be flashbacks.

I'm gonna say he's dead and has one ghost scene.

how is all this going to remain secret beyond the first weekend? or even the first day? total avoidance of the internet until showtime is the only way i think.

After the final scene, the camera pulls back to reveal that the entire movie has been projected on Luke Skywalker's bare ass.

"Gooood. I can feel your anus."

honestly, a lot of things will be pretty spelled out by mid-december. it looks like they're holding back a bunch of toys and assorted items for the last release of merchandise due to the fact the packaging will spoil plot points.

looks like the ebook version of the novelization is released the same day as the film

i love that jj abrams is credited as 'writer - taking care of business' in that av club interview clip. to think there was once a world where jj abrams was just a humble man, hunched over his keyboard, bashing out a regarding henry here and a forever young there. innocent, carefree days.

I love the idea of Luke being the ultimate baddie of the new trilogy, not sure Disney has the balls for that though.

same

no, you don't have to revise everything.

Most Mark Hamill's best-known post-SW roles have been bad guys

cartoons huh

yes, everyone was shocked when hamill made the leap from the sober, understated drama of the star wars trilogy to the world of animation

i've never watched the "special editions" but the few clips i've seen are really appalling. it's incredible that lucas did that to his films.

to his film, and two other director's films! though from my reading i get the sense he had a really huge (and heavy-handed, minutia-oriented) involvement in jedi.

i do wonder what the DGA thought of that.... i guess lucas is the uncontested "auteur" of the star wars films.

Well, Marquand was dead by the time the Special Editions came out, but Lucas took a bullet for Kersh, so he was probably fine with whatever:

To preserve the dramatic opening sequences of his films, Lucas wanted the screen credits to come at the end of the films. While this practice has become more common over the years, this was a highly unusual choice at the time. The Writers and Directors Guilds of America had no problem allowing it on Star Wars, back in 1977, because the writer-director credit (George Lucas) matched the company name, but when Lucas did the same thing for the sequel it became an issue because Lucas had his last name on the start of the film (Lucasfilm), while the director and the writers had theirs on the end. They fined him over $250,000 and attempted to pull Empire out of theaters. The DGA also attacked Kershner; to protect his director, Lucas paid all the fines to the guilds. Due to the controversy, he left the Directors and Writers Guilds, and the Motion Picture Association.[15]

interesting!

directors often make really meddling producers, coppola being probably the most egregious example. but i guess Lucas owns (or rather, owned) the I.P. to star wars which makes it more complicated.

it's hard to tell exactly because mainly i'm just going off this issue of cinefex composed of interviews throughout the making of jedi. those are always super super interesting to read. and the interviewees are constantly mentioning "george" and things he wanted to do, or changed his mind about, or had planned but cut later on due to budget reasons. i don't think "richard" is mentioned more than once, if that. of course, it could be that lucas "only" meddled in the effects sequences, which of course is what the people are getting interviewed about.

but there was at least one specific bit that seemed to already directly foresage the lucas of the special editions and phantom menace, let me see if i can find it...

that reminds me of one of the "making-of" bonus features on one of the DVD sets of the "Deadwood" TV show. one the one hand you have this sad-looking episode director nominally in charge and then you have ShowRunner David Milch throwing his weight around, actually calling shots (and barking instructions to the camera operator)....