2015 American Politics Thread: The 114th Congress Is in the House!

yeah isn't that the whole point? like they call the regular republicans RINOs because in their view, they say they support all this unsustainable impossible legsislative bullshit just to get elected, but don't (frequently enough) press for hopeless self-defeating psycho showdowns.

but anyway don't these "contract" things work better if they're, like, something the congressional delegation is agreed upon, and running on? so that they then can claim a mandate, however dubious the claim might be? this looks more like some kind of norquist-pledge type stunt that's more about identifying republican congresspersons who aren't willing to "sign the contract," so they can then be more thoroughly called out as RINOs, in those media channels that already see them as RINOs anyway. nice that they're not even waiting for paul ryan to attempt some kind of leadership platform before putting this together.

well they're not passing bills, gotta do something

and the sun rises

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/260220-republican-calls-for-increased-surveillance-in-muslim-neighborhoods

Rep Peter King, same as always.

Was also reading about how one of Paul Ryan's outside advisors on foreign policy for a number of years now, is Elliot Abrams, who was convicted of a misdemeanor for withholding evidence during the Iran-Contra scandal.

King is a moderate! He doesn't want to round em up and put em in camps.

are you really defending professional asshole Peter King

I believe that was snark. As in he doesn't wish to actively exterminate them.

ah of course

Texas governator:

Greg Abbott
‏@GregAbbott_TX
BREAKING: Texas will not accept any Syrian refugees & I demand the U.S. act similarly. Security comes first.

http://gov.texas.gov/files/press-office/SyrianRefugees_BarackObama11162015.pdf

Can we force TX to secede?

i still think Pete King is trying to SEO himself and that's why he keeps coming out with more and more outrageous things to say. he's got to be monetizing this in some direct way.

The "defense industry" is doing nicely today

https://theintercept.com/2015/11/16/stock-prices-of-weapons-manufacturers-soaring-since-paris-attack/

I guess there was a memo that got sent out:

The Republican governors -- in Alabama, Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Massachusetts, and Texas -- say their top concern must be the safety of state residents, and they say there's a chance the refugees include people with terrorist ties.

their top concern must be the safety of state residents,

except when it comes to drugs and health care

er, i mean drugs, health care, and guns

since when could governors make demands

watch out, they can also summon spirits from the vasty deep.

These governors have no ability or power to enforce such a ban, do they? On what grounds -- and via what methods -- could they possibly ban from their states immigrants whose status has been approved by Federal immigration authorities?

except when it comes to drugs and health care

or climate change or living wages or or or

via what methods

In refugee situations, immigrants are generally given government assistance in resettling to their new country. In the USA such assistance is facilitated by the state governments, which usually run social welfare programs, even if much of their regulation and funding is from the federal government. We have a weird confusing system.

Obama conducting himself admirably imo:

Mr. Obama grew especially animated in rebuffing suggestions by some Republican presidential candidates, governors and lawmakers that the United States should block entry of Syrian refugees to prevent terrorists from slipping into the country.

“The people who are fleeing Syria are the most harmed by terrorism; they are the most vulnerable as a consequence of civil war and strife,” Mr. Obama said. He added: “We do not close our hearts to these victims of such violence and somehow start equating the issue of refugees with the issue of terrorism.”

Without naming him, Mr. Obama singled out a comment by former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida, one of the Republicans seeking to succeed him, for suggesting the United States focus special attention on Christian refugees. “That’s shameful,” Mr. Obama said. “That’s not American. It’s not who we are. We don’t have religious tests to our compassion.”

I recall Nino's dissent in the Arizona immigration case in which he basically said sovereign states should be able to exclude whomever they please.

fuck these liars

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/123888/john-brennan-and-james-woolsey-think-edward-snowden-should-be-blamed-for-the-paris-attacks

https://theintercept.com/2015/11/15/exploiting-emotions-about-paris-to-blame-snowden-distract-from-actual-culprits-who-empowered-isis/

they hate us for our freedom

Chuck Schumer of New York, the third-ranking Senate Democrat, broke with most in his party and told reporters that a pause in accepting Syrian refugees "may be necessary."

feeling p good about my household "no Schumers" policy

party leadership soon to be in his capable reactionary hands

i know for various reasons (well money basically) it would probably be futile but that guy should be primaried every cycle. sometimes you get lucky.

just such fucking cowards always

oh he should definitely be primaried, surely there are better candidates from NY out there

is Jacob Javits dead

yes but his convention center lives on

GUESS LEVIS GUESS LEVIS

Chuck went there

“Israel and the Jewish people have been subject to the same type of terrorism since the 70s. And for so long, when it just happened to Israel, the world condoned it. They [may have not] condoned it, but maybe didn’t do much about it, and Israel had to fight terrorism on her own. And, because the world did not rise up, this terrorism, like a cancer, has spread throughout the world.”

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/11/against-terrorism-schumer

on her own lol

if fucking only

since the 70s? on her own? what alternate universe does this guy live in?

Manhattan

the Senate

Bibi's colon

btw did you guys know feingold is running to win his old senate seat back and is apparently polling pretty well? having him back would be nice

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12274485_10153702703563255_8470062729100080694_n.jpg?oh=d4e62c0539ad90b946d910129182c66b&oe=56B42E32

huh, interesting: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/refugees-christians-215991

i've seen a few 'jesus was a refugee' church signs around

Well, well: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/the-koch-brothers-intelligence-agency-215943

legality of that seems kind of sketchy

like the Koch hairlines

mike moon has something important to say

Governor Nixon seems intent on allowing the relocation of Syrian refugees in Missouri.
I do realize that the refugees we should be scrutinizing most is one who professes the muslim faith. Unless I'm mistaken, a practicing muslim can do whatever is necessary for the "good" of the faith - telling "fibs" is a smallpart of what they might do. And, from what I've seen, a practicing muslim comes in all flavors (black, white, brown, yellow - American, African, European, etc. etc.). A “white” lie could allow an individual to pass through the vetting process.

In this instance, we cannot afford to be too careful - especially given the fact that immigration officials report they cannot properly vet the refugees (before or after they've entered the country).

If my information is correct, Afghan refugees sent to Pakistani and Iranian refugee camps returned to their homeland when it was safe to do so. I see no reason not to follow that example because once they're on U.S. soil they'd have no reason to leave. Our preference, as a nation, should be to place the refugees in camps so that they can be properly cared for and returned safely home when the time is right.

Unless appropriate legislative action is taken, Governor Nixon may very well proceed with the acceptance of the refugees. For the safety of Missourians, we can ill-afford to wait. I ask that you begin the process of calling the General Assembly into Special Session in order to tie the Governor's hands, putting a stop to the potential Islamization of Missouri.

Mike Moon

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article45337596.html

hurry, before the raising of the Royals' championship flag is performed by an imam

Islamic "fibs"

it's a hateful letter, but you have to admit that it is a major achievement to pack all of these snippets

the "good" of the faith
telling "fibs" is a smallpart [sic] of what they might do
a practicing muslim comes in all flavors (black, white, brown, yellow - American, African, European, etc. etc)
a "white" lie

INTO THE SAME PARAGRAPH. mike moon must spend his time walking around yelling at himself and anyone else around him and poking squarequote fingers into nearby eyeballs