I dunno, I feel like the riff-per-minute count is generally very high, almost as high as you can go without making it totally impossible to understand what's happening in the movie. There are definitely some stretches of dead air but sometimes that's almost down to the movie they're stuck with. I always like when they bring in a longform gag that just takes advantage of the space, like the Leonard Maltin thing over the long ending and closing credits of Laserblast, or the Day The Earth Froze opening credit material.
― Frump 'n' Dump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link
I just hope the aesthetic and style, despite taking advantage of new technology, remains kinda homemade and doesn't look as mobile-site/hashtag/sterile/over-elaborate as I'm worried it might.
― Evan, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link
needs to be shot on video IMO. the host segments at least. though the sets did look great shot on film for the 1996 movie. hrm.
― Frump 'n' Dump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link
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― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:05 (eight years ago) link
As long as we're here -- the guy behind the Manos restoration is doing The Atomic Brain next, as well as funding a documentary on its director, who turns out to have been one of those Hollywood lifers behind the camera that apparently is something of a legend for working cinematographers to the present. And at $16,000 this is, how you say, way cheaper than the revival deal.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/manos/the-atomic-brain-4k-restoration
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link
Meantime, new interview with Joel:
http://mashable.com/2015/11/17/mystery-science-theater-3000-joel-hodgson
Of interest:
Q You've mentioned that you plan to stick to the look that people know but also bring it up a notch. Tell me about your plans to evolve the look of it. A Well, they were a couple of things built into Mystery Science Theater that worked really good, and that is that it appears to be a live document of a day in time. I was really careful about that; I didn't want to do a lot of post-production on the show. I wanted all the effects to be in camera, and we're seen a lot of that come around, with [the way] J.J. Abrams (did) Star Wars. People are sort of on the other end of [the argument] that seeing everything is the best way to tell a story; sometimes just having a really solid world you're in works really good. So I want to stick with that. I don't want to go too far out with that. But I also don't want to arrest the look of Mystery Science Theater and kind of stick with what we were doing in the '90s, which at the time was really provocative. I think we can move it along a little bit further. I'm not sure if I can, but I'd like to try.The thing I think will really protect it is that everything has to be done live. No matter what we do, it will have its own kind of charm.
A Well, they were a couple of things built into Mystery Science Theater that worked really good, and that is that it appears to be a live document of a day in time. I was really careful about that; I didn't want to do a lot of post-production on the show. I wanted all the effects to be in camera, and we're seen a lot of that come around, with [the way] J.J. Abrams (did) Star Wars. People are sort of on the other end of [the argument] that seeing everything is the best way to tell a story; sometimes just having a really solid world you're in works really good. So I want to stick with that. I don't want to go too far out with that. But I also don't want to arrest the look of Mystery Science Theater and kind of stick with what we were doing in the '90s, which at the time was really provocative. I think we can move it along a little bit further. I'm not sure if I can, but I'd like to try.
The thing I think will really protect it is that everything has to be done live. No matter what we do, it will have its own kind of charm.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link
That's promising. I'm glad he seems concerned with maintaining parameters in the overall look and feel.
― Evan, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link
So anyway, new update:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mst3k/bringbackmst3k/posts/1423502/
He wants Felicia Day as "Kinga Forrester," MST3K's next Mad… and Dr. Clayton Forrester's daughter!" and "Hampton Yount and Baron Vaughn to become the next voices of Crow T. Robot and Tom Servo!"
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 November 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
Plus a new extra henchman, it seems.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 November 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link
Was holding out for Deven Green.
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Monday, 23 November 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link
I've never actually watched any of the Sci Fi Channel episodes. Were there good ones? They looked ... less than.
― polyphonic, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link
Oh, they're great! Though I generally feel the "Mad's" stuff from that era went downhill, the riffing was plenty good.
― Evan, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link
You're doing yourself a major disservice skipping out on those final seasons, poly. Some of them are all-time. Check:
Space MutinyTime ChasersWerewolfThe Final SacrificeMerlin's Shop of Mystical WondersHorrors of Spider IslandDiabolik
― andrew m., Monday, 23 November 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link
The Sci-Fi eps more or less require you to skip the host segments.
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Monday, 23 November 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link
I'd add Giant Spider Invasion to that list.
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Monday, 23 November 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Monday, November 23, 2015 3:39 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I was saying this in a slightly softer way, but to be specific I like the isolated bots + Mike bits of those segments much more often than when the Mads are a part of it, so that distinction is kind of important imo.
― Evan, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link
Yeah Sci-Fi wanted them to have a continuing plot of some kind so the mads segments are kinda weak.
Final Sacrifice is all-time classic though.
― Capitalism Is A Death Cult And Science Is A Whore (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 00:53 (eight years ago) link
I didn't watch the Sci-Fi episodes for years, but when I started watching them on youtube it was like finding lost treasure
― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link
Ditto! Agreed about skipping all Mads segments and most M&TBs ones, but if you can get past new Crow there's lots of good riffing.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 02:01 (eight years ago) link
I dig having Baron Vaughn on the show
― Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 08:19 (eight years ago) link
More interviews floating around -- oddly enough, the one via StarWars.com is the best of that bunch; it goes deeper in some directions I haven't seen in the other pieces:
http://www.starwars.com/news/weve-got-movie-sign-joel-hodgson-talks-star-wars-and-mst3k
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link
Good interview- hits on some of our recent discussion upthread.
― Evan, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
BTW, doubling back a few posts: some Sci-Fi episodes I'm particularly glad to have seen for one reason or another. None of these stick out in my mind as super all-time classics the way some Comedy Central episodes do, but I've also seen all of these a maximum of one time each, so it's a bit more impressionistic re: memories of laughing fits at particular points, or just a memorably strange movie.
Touch of SatanAgent For H.A.R.M.Time ChasersThe Mole PeopleInvasion of the Neptune MenHorror of Party BeachWerewolfFinal Sacrifice
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link
RIP Rex, your headstone movie was too good to be MSTied
http://www.avclub.com/article/rip-rex-reason-star-island-earth-228925
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 November 2015 12:49 (eight years ago) link
His name was really Rex Reason? Hero.
Anyway, Turkey Day Marathon starts in half an hour:
http://mst3k.com/events/turkeyday15/wheretowatch/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 November 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link
crossing our fingers that the youtube app on our ps3 has updated to allow streaming ...i had to watch it on the ipad last year
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 November 2015 16:36 (eight years ago) link
your headstone movie was too good to be MSTied
And ranks as possibly one of their worst episodes too, if it ranks.
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 November 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
So excited to force family to watch this yet again!
― Evan, Thursday, 26 November 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
First up, Outlaw of Gor. The score so far:
Comedy Central: 1Sci-Fi: 0
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 November 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link
One of the first episodes I finally saw as it ran. Glad this is going to be on demand at Yahoo because looks like streaming on my phone isn't happening...
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 November 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link
ps3 stream is working! yaaay
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 November 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link
This Island Earth was better at the Minneapolis convention. Still a decent movie tho.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 November 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link
mst3k.com stream not working
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 November 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link
Ah cool, YouTube on my iPhone IS working. Maybe it just started a little later.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 November 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link
i have never seen this one before...this movie is really, uh, something
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 November 2015 18:00 (eight years ago) link
Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot? Cabot?
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 November 2015 18:04 (eight years ago) link
oh man, that's one i really can't do. i can't remember if we even finished it or not, the plot just kinda... continues. and yeah, that one dude is reeeeeeal hard to take. no fault on the riffing, just one of those where the movie itself is so irritating that you kinda can't deal.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 November 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link
That montage of man ass at the end . . .
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 November 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link
Haha I love _Outlaw_, it's just so ridiculous. They could never do enough wannabe Conan movies for me.
And now _Eegah!_! Two for two for me here.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 November 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link
Ditto!
Favorite riff: the screeching sound accompanying Roxy's trip down the giant slide.
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 November 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link
the song he sings by the pool is outstanding
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 November 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link
Oh wait, it's Arch Hall Jr. that's the celebrity I most closely resemble.
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 November 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link
Two of my favorite-ever MST3K moments in this: "Watch out for snakes!" obviously, and Joel putting his hands over the bots' mouths when Roxie asks, "Do you know where Deep Canyon is?"
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:17 (eight years ago) link
I am William Burroughs ... I am William Burroughs ... I am William Burroughs ... I'm Rose Kennedy.
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link
You know, this episode has one of my all time obscure lines. After Eegah smacks Arch Hall Jr and they all cheer, first Tom does a whiny voiced complaint supposedly from Arch, then Joel adds "Come on, you stupid zinge." Zinge? Am I hearing that right?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 November 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link
"Whatsa matter Mister Miller?""Sit down, Pieface. It's a long list."
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 November 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link
I love how much they hate Arch Hall jr
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 November 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link
Gorgo.
Comedy Central: 2Sci-Fi: 1
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 November 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link
Tuned in earlier just in time to catch the end of Eegah!, fell hard for Joel's response to the narrator banging on about the book of Genesis: "Ahhh, that's totally out of context!"
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 November 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
Gorgo is such a boring turd not even mst3k can save it.
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 November 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link