but yeah, large corporate R&D in the chemical and material science field from publicly held companies is getting screwed in the market at large
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link
thx; didn't catch on in 77!
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link
I will say no more, corporate overlords, etc etc
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/business/shkreli-fraud-charges.html?action=click&contentCollection=Books&module=MostPopularFB&version=Full®ion=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article
Martin Shkreli, a pharmaceutical entrepreneur and former hedge fund manager who has been widely criticized for drug price gouging, was arrested Thursday morning by the federal authorities.
The investigation, in which Mr. Shkreli has been charged with securities fraud, is related to his time as a hedge fund manager and running the biopharmaceutical company Retrophin — not the price-gouging controversy that has swirled around him
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:18 (eight years ago) link
@ReutersBREAKING: San Bernardino shooters did not post support for jihad on social media: FBI
@ggreenwald Reminder that believing whatever the government claims, laundered by the media, is bad for your intellectual health
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link
yeah it wasn't social media it was just private messaging (why does anyone think this matters)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link
because if it was on public social media rather than in private messages, it would be much more likely to be discovered when processing her visa paperwork
― you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link
i thought the claim was that she pledged allegiance to ISIS on social media while the attack was ongoing, which would be long after her visa paperwork was approved
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link
handling assault weapons and your iPhone simultaneously is pretty adroit
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link
Oh, was it? I honestly have not been closely following the details of all of this due to fatigue.
― you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link
yeah I get that. I'm just generally not interested in the particulars of the backgrounds of these types of attacks, feeding into mythical "if only" scenarios. There's no real way to 100% predict and prevent these kind of attacks. There's basic things that can be done to minimize them (limiting availability of weapons, primarily) but I feel like any retroactive fingerpointing is largely pointless.
xxp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link
Monday's LA Times:
"San Bernardino shooter Tashfeen Malik sent at least two private messages on Facebook to a small group of Pakistani friends in 2012 and 2014, pledging her support for Islamic jihad and saying she hoped to join the fight one day, two top federal law enforcement officials said Monday.
The new details indicate U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies missed warnings on social media that Malik was a potential threat before she entered the United States on a K-1 fiancee visa in July 2014."
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link
we should've drone bombed her for thought crime
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link
if we are going to start targeting people based on Facebook posts a whole lot of people are going to jail
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link
kind of amazing we have the NSA and PRISM and vast overreach of our privacy and yet Homeland Security forgot to look at Facebook, perhaps the single largest public database of information
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link
adam i feel like these two impulses of yours: targeting ppl based on fb posts is wrong and why isn't the NSA better at targeting ppl based on fb posts, are mutually exclusive complaints.
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link
raising taxes on the rich fucks would flush our security coffers with cash. if a ragtag chump group like ISIS is a threat then we need 90% on the top bracket at least to catch up
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 17 December 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link
"San Bernardino shooter Tashfeen Malik sent at least two private messages on Facebook to a small group of Pakistani friends in 2012 and 2014, pledging her support for Islamic jihad and saying she hoped to join the fight one day, two top federal law enforcement officials said Monday.The new details indicate U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies missed warnings on social media that Malik was a potential threat before she entered the United States on a K-1 fiancee visa in July 2014."
this isn't talking about facebook "posts", it's talking about private messages. so i don't understand...is there outrage that NSA didn't read their private messages??
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link
just trying to reconcile an all-encompassing surveillance state targeting life threatening terrorist that forgets to check the most basic thing that gets looked at if you apply for a job.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
private messages?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
xxp: essentially yes, because initial reporting made it seem like these were sent as public posts rather than private messages
― you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
it's one thing to criticize them for not combing through publicly shared facebook posts, but...they were private (according to the LA times thing morbs posted. I haven't been following this closely so sorry if they were actually public facebook posts or I'm missing something blindingly obvious). and if they did read their private messages, before Malik entered on a Visa, that would also mean that they would have to read EVERYONE's private messages. so...uh, no outrage from me.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
I don't think the NSA should be allowed to read everyone's private FB messages but they should be allowed to read the private FB messages of people who are going to do terrorism, sorry that's just how I feel.
― Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link
sir, you have my vote
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link
anyone can do terrorism, it's very democratic that way
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
the presidential huoynhms instantly converted it to "they were announcing jihad on Facebook"
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
(or however Swift spelled it)
xpostbut the criticism is that they didn't catch her private messages sent BEFORE they granted the visa, right? so the thought process would have to be "OK, we have a visa application...let me go ahead and read her private messages to check for terrorism" unless they had another reason to believe that she could be involved in terrorism.
Why didn't they read Malik's diary entry from 2007 before giving her a Visa? She laid out her evil intentions in there, as well as which boys are supercute
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
do they still ask "are u gonna do a terrorism?" on the visa form? we should double check
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link
do you swear you're not a terrorist? do you swear that you're not crossing your fingers behind your back as you complete this form?AND YOUR TOES!?!??!
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Thursday, December 17, 2015 12:29 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is going to be used as an argument for government access to encrypted communication
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/03P6ZV5.jpg
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:17 (eight years ago) link
i answered all their riddles
and ironically i posted a screenshot of my answers on facebook
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link
Obama and Clinton leading the pack
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link
looking forward to the gov't demanding access to plans scribbled on cocktail napkins
― nomar, Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
But what about the things that people just think about scribbling on cocktail napkins? There has to be a way for them to tap into those thoughts, as well, or we'll never be safe.
― Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link
you joke but El-Al asks questions like that all the time
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link
that screenshot i posted is from USCIS form I-140, Immigrant Petition for Alien Worker
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link
doesnt el al interrogate the shit out of you at customs?
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link
I mean not me bc my name is Mordechai and I wear a yarmulke but yes
― Mordy, Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link
A Brooklyn couple discussed their El Al interrogation at a Hanukkah party I went to last weekend. "Do you go to temple? Why not?" He's a secular Jew, she's Gentile; she advised him to play it cool, she wound up losing her temper at them.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link
an argument for government access to encrypted communication
lol like they don't already have this
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link
oh yeah, I think even the US re-entry form has something akin to "did you talk to some terrorists?"
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link
they don't have a "back door," is their story? xp
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
take it to the gay thread, champ
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link
there aren't any backdoors to major encryption software, the main "side door" to a lot of corporate authentication tokens was discovered (the encryption was good but the key generation was bad) and no one uses RSA tokens anymore
the majority of things people think are "encrypted" really aren't, though, or you can be legally compelled to provide access. so no, the government likely has no real way to break good encryption now, but nobody who has been a threat has actually used any encryption worth mentioning
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link
mh u are my hero
― you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link
if The Fort and The Feebs had reliable ways of cracking encryption their bosses probably wouldn't spend quite so much time bitching and whining about it in public
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
Tomboto u are also my hero
― you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link