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First *rescreen* of Lost Highway in 18 years... The first 45 minutes are pretty good, don't like much else except the Loggia "safety manual" freakout. Similar territory he covered earlier (and later) better.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 December 2015 04:14 (eight years ago) link

It'll never be a favorite but I like it a little better with each rewatch.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 21 December 2015 04:18 (eight years ago) link

didn't remember all the nude Arquette

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 December 2015 04:25 (eight years ago) link

The sense of dread around the images on the videotape is really something and the "call me" scene at the party is singularly terrifying.

Whoremonger (jed_), Monday, 21 December 2015 04:31 (eight years ago) link

didn't remember all the nude Arquette
--skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius)

There's a bunch of her. Plus nude Nathalie Wood daughter too

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 21 December 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link

Criterion Mulholland Drive has several great interviews with Lynch and crew, definitely worth checking out

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Sunday, 27 December 2015 00:40 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

He's 70 years old today.

pastoral fantasy (jed_), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 16:26 (eight years ago) link

I saw a couple of his early shorts on Hulu last weekend... The Grandmother def seems like a warmup for Eraserhead.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link

Filmed entirely in his house (some of which he painted entirely black) iirc

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:15 (eight years ago) link

or filmed mostly in his house, rather. can't remember but i think there are some outside scenes as well

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:16 (eight years ago) link

So Dolly Parton and Davids Lynch and Bowie were all born within days of one another??? What on earth was in the water back then, and can we bottle and distribute that shit?

Meat Sheet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:21 (eight years ago) link

I adore The Grandmother.

Meat Sheet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link

Bowie was born in '47, a year later, OL

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:23 (eight years ago) link

Ahhhhhh. Thanks. I mistakenly thought his last birthday was his 70th.

Meat Sheet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjPSzO5VAAAk37R.jpg

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link

Um.

Wet Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 17:45 (eight years ago) link

Now I'm picturing Lynch doing that late-period thing that other respected artists sometimes do where they get tired of toiling in relative obscurity and decide to just coast and cash in and direct Fast 9.

Wet Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link

not sure how you got from point A to B there

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 17:59 (eight years ago) link

That's like his Bret Ratner pic. Just before he got completely roided out but after he'd already been hooking up with supermodels and doing lots of blow for a while.

Wet Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link

haha ok

he was just promoting these people fwiw: https://allianceofmoms.com/

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 18:08 (eight years ago) link

promoting a password-protected Wordpress blog?

glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 01:03 (eight years ago) link

Yup

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 01:38 (eight years ago) link

Saw Blue Velvet in a theater for the first time last night. Absolutely floored. Don't think I'd seen it in 10+ years. Fucking bowled me over completely, especially in a gorgeous + huge art deco theater. The opening sequence is one of my favorite pieces of film ever. Been thinking about this post all morning:

Are you sure the ending of Blue Velvet is happy? It always seemed important to me that the bird was fake, and that the acting in the last scene is even more stilted than normal. Something about how happiness is defined.
― Dan I., Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:00 PM (14 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was really excited about INLAND EMPIRE at the time and the path Lynch might take with digital video- seems now is that he'll never make another film, just like John Waters. In a lot of ways, Blue Velvet was the movie that would've been the next step for John Waters but he got beaten to the punch by Lynch.

flappy bird, Thursday, 2 June 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link

those are two directors with *very* different sensibilities

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 June 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link

w/r/t all their other movies, sure. But Blue Velvet's early sixties Americana, perversion in a small town- that's quintessential Waters. And if he ever wanted to move beyond the campiness of Polyester, Blue Velvet is the movie he would've made. I can imagine Waters being pretty deflated when he saw it in 1986.

flappy bird, Thursday, 2 June 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link

when has waters ever been interested in moving beyond camp? Beyond some surface similarities in their reference points (which were, tbf, all over the place at the time - the proliferation of "wow late-50s/early 60s America sure was fucking WEIRD" were all over the place at the time until finally drying up in the late 90s), Lynch and Waters have very different goals as filmmakers. Waters has never been interested in being serious, or evoking horror, or in fucking with narrative and audience expectations the way Lynch is.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 June 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link

I mean you can draw a through line from Blue Velvet and True Stories and Polyester and Edward Scissorhands to any number less successful movies, this exploration of middle America's inner weirdness was a cultural thing not at all specific to any of the filmmakers, all of whom made very different movies for very different reasons. it wasn't a competition.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 June 2016 17:45 (eight years ago) link

I mean there were so many movies about this - Stand By Me, Parents, it's a long list

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 June 2016 17:46 (eight years ago) link

Wow, I was just thinking about Parents as I read the above couple posts, haven't thought about it in years!

Double Nickels on the Pecunidigm (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 2 June 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link

Bob Balaban's lone horror film!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 June 2016 17:51 (eight years ago) link

I was really excited about INLAND EMPIRE at the time and the path Lynch might take with digital video- seems now is that he'll never make another film, just like John Waters.

given that lynch just finished shooting an ~18hr film that if successful could raise his profile higher than it's been in a decade, I don't think it's unreasonable to hold out hope that he can get another theatrical picture made

mario vargis loosa (wins), Thursday, 2 June 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link

You mean the new Twin Peaks? TV is one thing, I don't think it'll be much easier to get funding for a feature film or if he's even interested.

xposts Waters' wheelhouse is camp but I'm not convinced he never wanted to move beyond it and make something darker and more serious like Blue Velvet. Whether or not he had the capacity to, or even thought about it before Blue Velvet, it struck me as the film he should've made in the mid-80's. Strange to think there was such a long gap between Polyester in 81 and Hairspray in 88.

flappy bird, Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link

xxpost (aside) Not film but Balaban also had some involvement with Tales From the Darkside.

What's Your Definition of a Dirty Baby? (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link

but I'm not convinced he never wanted to move beyond it and make something darker and more serious like Blue Velvet

Waters is not exactly a reclusive or secretive person, he's made no secret of his goals as a filmmaker and has written extensively about his films, their inspirations, and his sensibility. Like, entire books. I dunno why you would think this about him, it's something he has literally never expressed an interest in.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link

I'm thinking specifically of an interview in the New York Press years ago where it came up. He said he loved the film but was bummed and felt beaten to the punch by Lynch. Trying to find it online.

flappy bird, Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link

in a weird way, I feel like Waters' films are much more wholesome than David Lynch's

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link

I mean, Pink Flamingos is basically just a disgusting movie about a loving family

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link

this is great - Ebert gets it totally wrong, and suggests that Isabella Rossellini was used and abused by Lynch against her will. Siskel points out that she consented to the role, then Ebert says "well the film was shot in two halves, and she had no idea the other half was all campy comedy!" - as if she didn't read the entire script?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uehfL60EA4

flappy bird, Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link

xps yeah I mean TP, which was shot as one big film - and even if it'd been made in the conventional manner he's obv interested in directing again. idk much about the money side of things tbf

mario vargis loosa (wins), Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link

Ebert recanted that review

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link

xps yeah I mean TP, which was shot as one big film - and even if it'd been made in the conventional manner he's obv interested in directing again. idk much about the money side of things tbf

― mario vargis loosa (wins), Thursday, June 2, 2016 2:44 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

afaik money is the only obstacle - Waters was trying to make a claymation/animated christmas kids movie called Fruitcake circa 2007 but then the economy collapsed and he hasn't been able to find funding since. There was a great article about the disappearance of mid-level independent movies and directors like Soderbergh, Waters, and Lynch either sitting back or moving to TV...

flappy bird, Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link

yeah it's all about financing with this tier of directors

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link

ie that's the obstacle, not that they've run out of ideas

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

well then surely at the very least off the back of a theoretically successful twin peaks lynch could get another inland empire done on the hoof

mario vargis loosa (wins), Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link

fingers crossed! you never know, and i found this post pretty funny and encouraging:

I love Laura Dern (and have some sort of feeling approaching something like fondness for Lynch.) It'll probably come out in 2015 though knowing him.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, May 12, 2005 4:27 PM (11 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

btw heres that article: http://flavorwire.com/492985/how-the-death-of-mid-budget-cinema-left-a-generation-of-iconic-filmmakers-mia

flappy bird, Thursday, 2 June 2016 18:54 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I was really excited about INLAND EMPIRE at the time and the path Lynch might take with digital video- seems now is that he'll never make another film,

― flappy bird, Thursday, June 2, 2016 5:00 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Iirc we didn't know anything about INLAND EMPIRE until it was finished and ready for release and that he funded it mostly off his own back acquiring additional funds from investors during the actual process rather than in advance. He could be making another film now or could be channeling his fee for TP2 into making something new. We just never know with him.

Pastoral Fantasy (jed_), Monday, 20 June 2016 00:10 (eight years ago) link

there was plenty of advance press as inland empire was being made

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 20 June 2016 00:27 (eight years ago) link

There was? I thought it was a surprise to everyone that he had a new film imminent but maybe I'm just remembering it wrong.

Pastoral Fantasy (jed_), Monday, 20 June 2016 00:45 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

Cool to see that the zig zag carpet is shared between eraser head and the twin peaks cooper dream sequence

calstars, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 23:17 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

from Amy Taubin's Cannes report in the current Film Comment, where the first two eps of TP 2.0 were screened:

"I wish I could be interested in Lynch’s fiddling with CGI, his overworking of his actors’ glottal stops, and his evocation of Mystery Science Theater 3000, the symptomology of Alzheimer’s disease, and, more generally, castration anxiety. But I’m not."

She did like the new Top of the Lake.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 17:19 (seven years ago) link


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