Star Wars 7 shit talk

Careful, this is the non-spoiler thread.

Those posts are kinda spoilery. I'm going to delete them and c&p them to the spoilers thread.

yes i am looking forward to going through that in a few days. keep it non-spoilery here plz!

Mentioned it already, but I do think Guardians of the Galaxy captured the Star Wars vibe maybe better, though perhaps because it is crossed with Indiana Jones.

I disagree, I think GotG was stealing from the best while trying to stay in a category unto itself. In retrospect the choice of a pop soundtrack was extremely wise.

I'm just hoping Daisy Ridley gets to have a better post-trilogy career than Mark Hamill did.

Haven't seen it, do want to, can imagine it being a better film even though TFA was basically everything I wanted it to be... but capturing the vibe better? Than a film that has the same characters, actors and story, look & feel, and co-writer? Xp

'jupiter ascending' and 'the martian' each in their own way captured the 'star wars' vibe better than 'guardians of the galaxy' did imho but neither anywhere near as well as 'the force awakens'

jupiter ascending was horrendous and made me fall asleep

you missed all the good parts

I got as far as the first action scene with Tatum "air skating"

Guardians of the Galaxy is a better movie than The Force Awakens, but I wouldn't necessarily call it more star warsy... For one thing, the sort of pop cultural references and absurdist humour it's loaded with aren't really a Star Wars thing at all, SW is more po-faced. But I do admit that GotG was better capturing the sense of wonder in seeing weird-looking aliens, surreal cosmic environments and cool ships, which is a pretty essential part of space opera. TFA was pretty low-key in that department, at least compared to the original trilogy, which was full of that stuff.

I'd say GotG's most obvious influence is not Star Wars but Fifth Element, when it comes to humour and characterization. Also, they're both saturated with bright primary colours, whereas SW is a more subdued.

TFA was pretty low-key in that department, at least compared to the original trilogy, which was full of that stuff.

Hardly fair to compare one film with three.

A New Hope has less of it than Force Awakens, arguably. Greedo, the Jawas, Chewie, a few shots of cantina folk ... that's about it.

And Jedi? Only Jabba's palace (a feast of weirdness, admittedly), and Ewoks.

ACKBAR

but capturing the vibe better? Than a film that has the same characters, actors and story, look & feel, and co-writer?

I think so, yeah. Not in a bad way, really. I'm on the record liking the new one fine if thinking it was sort of low-stakes, but the vibe was a little too careful and proficient for me, like it was moving fast because it had to, not because the story/adventure/action was propelling it forward; I don't recall and of the OT having (what felt like) such a long lull in the middle as TFA. Guardians of the Galaxy (which I went into thinking would be terrible) I still say felt like a cross between Star Wars and Indiana Jones, more-so than something like Fifth Element, though I agree the pop-culture stuff and self-awareness gave it a bit of an advantage. I also felt Guardians had better emotional beats, too, but again, unfair advantage of surprise and freshness, etc..

As much as I wish I could recall just how it felt to see Star Wars in late 1977 when I was around three - amazingly it is my earliest memory - I can't, not quite (though I remember Empire and Jedi as a kid just fine). But I do have a couple of youngish kids, and both seemed to have a better time with Guardians than this one, too (while still liking both, more or less). But yeah, that may be because this one is sort of hampered by design to err on the side of drama and seriousness and mythology rather than silliness and world-building.

Being able to act definitely works in Ridley's favor, though to be fair, Hamill has done really well as a voice actor.

GotG was also pulling from Kirby's Cosmic Debris, whereas SW has far more Japanese mythic vibes.

Both are ultimately rooted in 20th-C pop sci-fi/space opera, but they seem slightly orthogonal

Does that mean they need braces?

Hamill was dope on Wing Commander 3

i'm amused you guys like the space raccoon movie yet trash Return of the Jedi for Ewok reasons.

i like those Ewok movies

it's where Star Wars should have gone, more space fantasy, not that dumb bureaucratic senate stuff

i'm amused you guys like the space raccoon movie yet trash Return of the Jedi for Ewok reasons.

Who is trashing Return Of The Jedi for Ewok reasons ITT?

The Ewoks aren't really that bad. Jedi is the weakest of the OG trilogy but still great. Just a bit of an anti climactic end due to the Stormtroopers being unusually pathetic even by their own standards

I've never understood the Ewok hate, of course a family friendly space movie should have some cute aliens! And Ewoks aren't even a particularly egregious or sugary example of that; remember that they try to eat the heroes in their introductory scene! Okay, them beating the Stormtroopers is a bit silly, but "old tech is better than new" is an essential trope in movies like this, the lightsabers work on the same principle.

And Mark Hamill's voice roles (Ozai, Joker, etc) and his recent reprisal of The Trickster (essentially a cross between Joker and The Riddler) in the new Flash have made me realize he's much better at playing scenery-chewing villains than straight-faced heroes. So I'm hoping for an Evil Luke twist in Episode VIII.

"in the live-action Flash series"

Whoa! I did not know that Hamill voiced Ozai.

Guardians of the Galaxy was nicely designed, but a lot of that bro comedy fell flat on its ass. Chris Pratt is so charmless. Kind've a weak film, for me.

http://i.imgur.com/bYzsCbd.jpg

hot solo. woof!

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1531560_1655588111380482_4286063226048179277_n.jpg?oh=fe191948bebb6d80fe5c8c0b24c799b7&oe=56D99D4D

Guardians of the Galaxy was nicely designed, but a lot of that bro comedy fell flat on its ass. Chris Pratt is so charmless. Kind've a weak film, for me.

― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Thursday, December 24, 2015 1:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I really have no desire to ever watch that movie again. And I really liked it.

isn't that noodle vague on the left hanging out with harrison there.

ewok talk reminds me that i believe the first star wars film i ever saw was caravan of courage, i think for quite some time i didn't even know that ewoks were a star wars thing.

lol at guy doing the look at the hole thing with his left hand

Is that Sergio Mendes?

btw, i saw this movie with two old high school friends while i was home for the holidays, maybe the only way I was gonna see it in theaters. coincidentally, we saw it on the day when i knew my ex was going to have our dog put down so that was in the back of my mind the whole time. when credits were rolling i left to call her and then we cried for awhile. that all said, i kinda barely remember it. two and a half stars?

"Is that Sergio Mendes?"

indeed! han solo built his recording studio.

Noodle Vague has been holding out on us

i saw this tonight in 3d. it seemed about as good as the other modern day epic stuff like lord of rings and hunger games and stuff

not really a fan of 3d in general but i've seen this in both 2d and 3d and didn't feel 3d added anything

I was considering it but I don't think they could really fly at u face

i had two people sell me on going 3d, specifically not because of stuff jumping at you, but because of the 'depth' it added

the spaceships looked cool but i think 2d would have been fine + no putting things on your face

I have never seen anything in 2d that made me want to go back and see it in 3d.

Star Wars title fading into the stars and massive text crawl both looked cool in 3d fwiw. Movie felt a little dark bc of the 3d tho

Rey abseiling down into the star destroyer looked like a tiny doll in 3d.

My best friend since grade school (we were 7 years old in 77 when we saw the first movie together at the Roseville 4) is on his way to pick me up for this. I think we're seeing it in 3D which wouldn't be my druthers but fuck it.

Watched rotj for the first time in decades this morning and was surprised that I now find the beginning of the movie boring compared to the stuff after they leave jabba's. The Jabba sequence felt oddly limp and I am a creature fiend so I should love it.

Gonna go tomorrow, 38yrs after seeing the orig a few blocks east. Thence to the spoiler thread.

It was v good
I have thoughts I hope to type later