I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

@pareene
oh god wait Hillary is Hubert H. Humphrey

hawkish, presents self as avatar of real (non-elite) Democratic base, anti-left but not conservative

Eugene McCarthybros

Yeah, except her pecker has never been inside anyone's pocket.

Chris Matthews had an interview with Hillary Rodham Clinton on the MSNBC channel of the electric teevee machine Tuesday afternoon that was flatly astounding. This is especially true if you remember Matthews' sorry history with the Clinton family, especially concerning HRC, against whom he was so hostile in 2008 that kindly Doc Maddow called him out on it on the air. Now, though, apparently, Matthews sees HRC as the only thing keeping the Battleship Potemkin from sailing up his driveway....

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a41754/chris-matthews-hillary-clinton-interview/

"We agree on universal health-care."

Holy fuck, she said it would never happen just the other day.

Apparently Marco doesn't want *that* much change.

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/02/02/plagiarism-marco-rubio-gets-called-out-for-stealing-president-obamas-speech-video/

And as noted by someone above, I thought it weird he seemed to be bragging about coming in third with "So this is the moment they said would never happen. For months, for months they told us we had no chance."

I listened to about 20 minutes of Bernie's speech to his supporters after Iowans caucused. I was impressed by how much his program and policy ideas sounded like Ralph Nader in 2000. I voted for Nader in 2000, btw.

rand paul is dropping out.

*withdraws all cash from ATM, buys bitcoins and platinum*

http://i3.cpcache.com/product_zoom/146955583/turn_on_tune_in_drop_out_tshirt.jpg?height=250&width=250&padToSquare=true

"We agree on universal health-care."

Holy fuck, she said it would never happen just the other day.

I imagine Hillary would claim we have universal health care, and that Bernie wants to unravel it all to replace it with something else.

From old thread: "the (Trump) campaign has spent at least $1.2 million on hats."

If my hair looked like that I'd probably prioritize hats as well.

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/should-millennials-get-over-bernie-sanders?intcid=mod-latest

Ugh how many shitty articles written by doofus amateur poli-sci know nothings is this primary going to generate?

Hillary's going pretty hard for the "we agree on the issues, we disagree on how to get them done, I'm the more practical one, and the important thing is to have the practical one to keep the republicans from ruining everything" formula. I can see why, but mannnn is it disingenuous, starting from "we agree on the issues."

"We agree on the issues, we just disagree on who should be the next president."

https://twitter.com/NateGoldman/status/694892933254901760

oof

New Hampshire responds to Trump's new loser status by not moving the needle at all:

http://www.uml.edu/docs/2-3%20TOPLINE%20-%20UMassLowell-7NEWS%20NH%20PRIMARY_tcm18-230574.pdf

Nm, think I got it [the caucus process] now.

― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Tuesday, February 2, 2016

if so, you are ahead of 99.5% of Americans.

Is that Goldman tweet an outtake from the British Office? This might be the first time I've felt a twinge of sympathy for a Bush.

I cannot imagine what would ever compromise my dignity to the extent that I would beg for people's applause.

January 29... Hil "agreeing" on healthcare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG7w3Oey3xs

FiveThirtyEight getting a little, ah, excitable.

natesilver:We keep getting into these loops and eddies about Trump and Rubio and everyone except Cruz, who won Iowa last night, and who’s a clear second in national polls (and could be in first nationally by tomorrow for all we know). Betting markets have Cruz’s nomination chances at just 13 percent, which seems way low.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-does-ted-cruz-go-from-here/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2016/02/02/ted-cruz-relaxes-by-singing-show-tunes-actually-but-which-ones/

Really hoping for "I Feel Pretty," personally.

From a must read NYROB article called "The Clinton System":

[D]irect payments to Hillary Clinton’s political campaigns, including for the Senate in 2000 and for the presidency in 2008 and now in 2016 ... had reached a total of $712.4 million as of September 30, 2015, the most recent figures compiled by Open Secrets. Four of the top five sources of these funds are major banks: Citigroup Inc, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase & Co, and Morgan Stanley....

yeah, saw that the other day. It will generally be ignored by "pragmatists" of course.

1994-vintage cruz is a dead ringer for bill hicks in that pic upthread

"on the lighter side"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWl6TLvlFEk

Linked off the always great Gin & Tacos: Disturbing documentary of a Trump rally.

http://www.vice.com/read/this-short-film-takes-you-inside-the-strange-world-of-donald-trump-supporters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP_J6gmJYiU

Sanders-Clinton debate on for tomorrow night

Sanders-Clinton debate on for tomorrow night

Did Queen Hill agree to some weekday night debates, one in her "home" of Brooklyn, or did Bern fold?

i don't microfollow such effluvia

what're the odds Rubio owns Christie's "boy in the bubble" nickname for him and starts playing the Simon song at rallies?

Rubio can't spell "Simon."

Torn, I love the current thread title but I also sort of want it to be called "Please clap"

lol, i had the same thought

"Please clap" has now become the saddest two-word utterance I've ever encountered.

yes to that title change

^^^ otm

you ppl are going to have a diff fave clowncar quote every week.

nothing will ever top 'please clap'. it is everything

This piece on Cruz is funny but worth reading for more than just the jokes.

There is no metric by which Ted Cruz is presidential. The only path to victory for a guy like Ted Cruz is through glitches in the electoral college only Cold War-era computer programmers and three borderline dead Ivy League professors with Henry Kissinger’s cell phone number know about. If Ted Cruz won the general election, his Iowa strategy suggests it’d be the most demoralizing win in modern presidential politics, like an A.I. beating you at Scrabble using words that haven’t been spoken since the 1920s.
Just imagine how creepy a win with Cruz’s methods would be. He’d win with an earth-shattering low cut of the popular vote. He’d win with 48 million votes because of some electoral college technicality in Nevada. He’d make bizarre computer-dictated moves like spending a month in Hawaii and never visiting the South. He’d be the first president to ever get assassinated for cheating.
He’s not cheating, of course, he’s just violating the spirit of presidential campaigning. He’s running a “the manual says I’m not cheating, and your mom says you can’t punch me again if I’m not cheating” strategy, and it’s just aggravating and phony as hell.

Was going to post the same request re: "please clap". New thread after New Hampshire?

i don't microfollow such effluvia

― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 3, 2016 11:39 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i love this post

What's so weird about Cruz is that when I first heard about him he sounded like the perfect on-paper GOP version of Obama-- Hispanic (name, at least), from the West but also a Harvard Law grad who argued at the SC, taking on the Texas establishment candidate favored by Rick Perry.

But then when you actually see him and hear him it's like what the fuck is wrong with this guy

how is there no video of the please clap?

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/jeb-bush-asks-n-h-audience-to-please-clap-615035459591

xp
Do you "like it" like it, or "thread title" like it?

Arthur Chu has thoughts about Berniebros: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/02/i-like-bernie-sanders-his-supporters-not-so-much-berniebro?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, February 2, 2016 11:39 PM (Yesterday)

arthur chu has a real solid grasp of the endless complexities of politics:

https://twitter.com/arthur_affect/status/669187312027217921

"Fraud! Fraud bad! Bad Cruz, commit fraud! See fraud run! Run, fraud, run!"

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-cruz-idUSMTZSAPEC23ZBL9YS

here it is, his Roxie Hart moment.