I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

i thought she made a lot of good points sticking up for the role of feminism in the muslim world. i guess that doesn't get the clicks

sticking up for the role of feminism in the muslim world

Albert Brooks, no?

The things people need to apologize for these days. Everything about this is so stupid.

On a FB thread today, I basically apologized in advance because a celebrity death has never brought me to tears.

not even tim horton's?

When they stopped making blueberry fritters, yes, but that doesn't really count.

She's getting really ridiculously easy to hate

@froomkin
Clinton Sarcastically Says She’ll Release Speech Transcripts When Everyone Else Does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5a12wCSwuw

You were having a hard time before?

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/696444846089830401

marc loi peter daou wants to know why this was never an issue with male presidential candidates????

"On a FB thread today, I basically apologized in advance because a celebrity death has never brought me to tears."

You need to be properly gutted! We'll find someone who guts you, don't you worry...

bill james still has some years left in him

really k3v? that's yr take?

(xpost) The Favorite Toy gives him another 19.3 years. I'll be gone.

yeah, ok, cheap shot. obviously plenty of the opposition to hillary is gender-based, conscious or not. still think that guy's a dork tho xp

not very cute either

I'm actually kind of anxious watching the Clinton campaign fucking up so bad right now, going on the attack against the VOTERS and not just their candidate, you know, those same voters we hope don't stay home if Clinton gets nominated. Anxious because I assume she's still the presumptive nominee, although it's starting to look less inevitable, and if this is her strategy to win nationally -- the people who don't support me are young and dumb -- then I fear for her candidacy as well as for the likelihood of Democrats being able to mobilize young voters in general.

Rubio doing such a great job on his Freshman Introduction to Communications speech

― gaz coombes? yo he don't got NUTHIN ta prove! (Neanderthal), Saturday, February 6, 2016 8:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

funny enough, i'm going to use rubio's repeating the same scripted lines three times as a bad example of extemporaneous speaking in my speech class this week

Fury of Bubba unleashed

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-clinton-bernie-sanders_us_56b7d00de4b04f9b57da0d2f

the Screaming Lobster of Hope is back!

ugh

"vicious trolling"

"And through the strength of my personal friends [....] I picked up like, I don't know, 12 or 14 points in three days. The rest is history," Clinton said.

Oh, so you understand the problem, then.

that is one ballsy euphemism

I'm actually kind of anxious watching the Clinton campaign fucking up so bad right now, going on the attack against the VOTERS and not just their candidate, you know, those same voters we hope don't stay home if Clinton gets nominated. Anxious because I assume she's still the presumptive nominee, although it's starting to look less inevitable, and if this is her strategy to win nationally -- the people who don't support me are young and dumb -- then I fear for her candidacy as well as for the likelihood of Democrats being able to mobilize young voters in general.

I wouldn't waste too much energy worrying about the Clintons' ability to campaign in the general election and I especially wouldn't worry with the current crop of opposition candidates

funny enough, i'm going to use rubio's repeating the same scripted lines three times as a bad example of extemporaneous speaking in my speech class this week

That's pretty cool - the clip below suggests* he tries again a fourth time, reworded slightly, and, it being the first time after Christie points it out, he gets booed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNRNHgi1RzU

*I didn't see the debate, I'm taking it on honour that the clips in the video are in the right order (and indeed from the same debate)

Rubio really should have prepared a second index card.

The whole exchange is here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Gg6ggghoI

Keep it going to the end, it's pretty horrible.

why wd anyone watch that

Nice Lamar! shirt WJC has on in that huffpost link.

Classic ending to Frederik's clip with "Gov. Bush, I'll mention your name..."

A FB friend of mine has made 21 pro-Bernie/anti-HRC posts in the last 24 hours

that 6 minutes should finish rubio's campaign.

Of course Rubio and his manager were all over TV Sunday saying they were just "staying on message." Much like Laurence Olivier stayed on message in Marathon Man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-OviftusB8

As horrible as Christie & Trump are it's super enjoyable to see them using their bullying tendencies to show up this field of chumps

^

why wd anyone watch that

dude it's really, really good

Golden Age of TV.

Christie just crushed in that clip. I really hate the fucker but that was like watching Tyson fight.

I am obv not on board with Christie's politics but he certainly is a nimble speaker in certain situations.

And it would of course be nice if that finished Rubio's campaign, but we may be reaching a time in which we can no longer say what finishes any campaigns ever.

Fortunately, entertainment centering on hideous evil creatures who won't stop going, even though they're dead, appears to be popular lately. Perhaps after the election, AMC will renew the candidates for another season. Please let the Season 2 shocker be that Santorum wasn't REALLY dead, he was just hiding under something while camouflaging his scent with Rick Perry's entrails.

I also thought it was funny how Rubio's scripted Obama points barely sounded bad -- "He knows what he's doing" "He's trying to make America more like the rest of the world"

Yeah, I was honestly confused about the point he was trying to make. Like...okay, and? Were you planning to elucidate how that's a bad thing? I guess I wasn't the intended audience, but still.

Yeah I mean even if you are the intended audience though, I feel like on a subconscious level that phrasing is not very strongly negative and maybe a little positive.

i suppose it was a matter of chance that rubio locked up on that particular talking point, but it's still a weird one -- presumably his opponents agree and do not need to dispense with the idea that obama is a radical

wow i have somehow avoided seeing rubio speak thus far but holy shit he really is like a 16 year old up there

His robotics aside, Rubio's point only makes sense within the world of right-wing rhetoric -- where, a.) Obama's presidency is universally understood to be a failure of massive, historical, unprecedented proportions; and b.) at least part of the reason for that massive failure was his lack of experience and preparation for the job. The latter point then being a useful cudgel for any Republican candidate to beat up a less experienced Republican candidate. So Rubio's answer is that Obama's not a failure because he doesn't know what he's doing, he's a failure because "he knows EXACTLY what he's doing," and what he's doing is bad, bad stuff, on purpose, unlike the good stuff that Rubio will do on purpose if you will only vote for him.

Funnily, man alive, I have seen some folks in the right-wing frothosphere make the same shift. They invested years on knee-jerk Obama dismissal: he's inexperienced, he's naive, he's an idiot who can't function without a teleprompter, he's a failure.

Nowadays, one sometimes sees messages like "Huh. He got elected and convincingly reelected, he got huge bucketfuls of his agenda passed, he's steamrolled the weak-ass opposition, he's ramming his policies down the nation's throats via executive order - hey, where can I get ME some of that kind of failure?"

Some of this is that the Teahadi anger is sometimes directed 51% at Obama/libs, 49% at the ostensibly spineless GOP for "failing to stop Obama." Sometimes it's the other way round.

In any case, "being like the rest of the world" is a sin in the eyes of those for whom American Exceptionalism is gospel

like somehow by hearsay i was duped into thinking rubio could be the successful establishment candidate but wow, the gop is really fucked huh

"Obama's been an inexperienced fool," a GOP operative said. "What we need is our own inexperienced fool as a candidate."

xxxp I'd guess the intent is to establish that the reasonable left is a threat, and requires a reasonable right to guard against it? IE he's figured out that he's not going to outflank Trump on TERRORISM, but has a better chance on gays, uteri, healthcare.

There may have been a time when that might have worked, I don't think that time is now.