I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

as inspiring as this is, and as much as my admiration for the sanders campaign has gone up, i keep thinking about a general election where the spectre of "urban crime" and the accusation that bernie "hates the police" are raised over and over again by whoever is the GOP nominee. sort of 1968 all over again.

Yeah I mean things happen for reasons, so once they happen you can see the reasons. It's still pretty striking. I'm surprised at how much he connects with people outside the kind of upper middle class liberal circles that supported guys like Dean. When he first started to surge I thought that (and the college vote) was p much where most of his support would start and end, but IDK, he's got something.

xp I can think of many reasons to be concerned in a general election, it's just that I've never seen an election like this with such a weird and (probably) weak GOP field and a lefty candidate at the same time. I wonder if people said that about Nixon/McGovern -- was Nixon a big surprise?

Eh fuck it -- let's keep OBama in the Oval Office another four years.

Nixon was still popular even without rigging his election.

we have had some demographic shifts since 1968, we'll see exactly what that means in electoral scaremongering terms

xpost

if clinton had spent the last decade demonstrating that she'd learned something from the iraq debacle

How about if Clinton had spent the last 8 years demonstrating that she'd learned something from her 2008 run?

once McGovern made his acceptance speech at 3a.m. and then waffled on jettisoning the veep nominee over his psychiatric history, it was p clear he was gonna get stomped. (it was likely in the first place)

we have had some demographic shifts since 1968, we'll see exactly what that means in electoral scaremongering terms

yeah, it'll be interesting. and nobody who is coming near the GOP nomination has anything like the insider support or sheer staying power of dick nixon. but still, i worry that all the stuff that bernie is (honorably!) doing to distinguish himself from clinton would be fodder for an incredibly, disgustingly reactionary GOP general-election campaign like we've never seen. (of course, i still don't think sanders will get the nom, but we're in the realm of what-ifs.)

sadly, i can easily see bernie making some mcgovern-like mistakes.

I can see a lot of centrist Democrats bailing on the election & not voting if Bernie is the nominee. Seems more likely than Bernie supporters bailing on Clinton tbh.

He would never accept Clinton as a veep.

Centrist Dems who bail are not Democrats. They are morons.

^^^

Third Way types will help in the election of a dangerous conservative mountebank.

yeah i don't see that happening at all

yeah i don't know that i see out-and-out bailing after months of Trump/Cruz running a general campaign

do think a centrist third party candidate could make waves if it ends up being sanders v. trump/cruz tho

By wave do you mean "Chris Matthews thought pattern"?

fair enough. I can see a lot of morons bailing on the election & not voting if Bernie is the nominee. Seems more likely than Bernie supporters bailing on Clinton tbh.

would be kind of funny to hear left-wing democrats have to give the "just hold your nose and vote, remember the supreme court!" lecture

Jon Schwarz ‏@tinyrevolution
I wonder if the "counsel" Clinton's received from Kissinger includes "if someone like Sanders is elected, overthrow them in a military coup"

Centrist Dems who bail are not Democrats. They are morons.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 12, 2016 2:52 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Anyone who bails because they don't like the candidate enough is a moron imo. There's always a better choice and a worse choice. If it's Hitler vs Mussolini, you vote Mussolini.

I have a standing joke that those two are going to be reanimated by the Ds and Rs for the next election, and the rest of it gets offensive

a sanders/trump/bloomberg election would be the strangest in nearly a century, not only because 2/3 of the candidates would be nyc jews.

more thought experiments: would bloomberg take away more votes from sanders or trump??

sounds like more of a sit down joke

Jon Schwarz ‏@tinyrevolution
I wonder if the "counsel" Clinton's received from Kissinger includes "if someone like Sanders is elected, overthrow them in a military coup"

lolmg

anyway sorry the question implicit in elections for me is "Who do you want to fill this office?" None of the Above is an answer.

yes we know

The question implicit in an apartment search is "where do you want to live," but when the beachfront bauhaus mansion isn't in my price range I don't sleep on the street.

anyway sorry the question implicit in elections for me is "Who do you want to fill this office?" None of the Above is an answer.

― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, February 12, 2016 2:06 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i read that as "orifice"

well clearly you're a sellout xp

i will sleep under the boardwalk until they give me a beachfront property

Bloomfuck is from Boston btw

that's right. close enough, i guess.

i will sleep up on the roof - get away from all that rat race noise down in the street.

Yeah m.a., no president has ever affected my life as much as my domicile and never will.

that's what the drifters song is about - not compromising on yr politics

tried sleeping on broadway, but the glitter rubs right off, and you're nowhere.

i will sleep up on the roof - get away from all that rat race noise down in the street.

I completely missed "rat" when I first read that

choosing the lesser of two evils is p much what adult life is about

does anyone fucking like bloomberg? I don't think so. I don't know why he's rattling these chains.

I still want to see him get booed like Brady at the Superbowl

omg djp

oh boy the "adult" thing again, never gets old

bloomberg has some genuinely redeeming qualities. pretty good on public health and climate change

xp: okay Dr Pan

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lol xp

in fairness, that was a total gimme

the Krell could tell you about lesser evils, if theyd lasted

https://5wordmoviereviews.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/forbidden-planet-morbius.jpg

a sanders/trump/bloomberg election would be the strangest in nearly a century, not only because 2/3 of the candidates would be nyc jews.

more thought experiments: would bloomberg take away more votes from sanders or trump??

― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, February 12, 2016 3:05 PM (15 minutes ago)

i'll give you a hint: he was elected mayor of NYC