I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

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doesn't bode well for the NRO anti-Trump crusade that every anti-Trump post has comments flooded with stuff along these lines:

I just want someone to conserve my nation. Protect the borders, protect society, keep the historically massive invasion OUT. Keep my community safe and prosperous.

Trump says all the right things about those. He may or may not carry through, but the GOPe WILL NOT carry through. GOPe has abandoned me.

anonanon, Thursday, 25 February 2016 08:37 (eight years ago) link

There's so much more damning video of him from the 90s espousing left wing positions. This is nothing.

i'm talking about November, and to the ppl who think he has a shot at non-Tea Party non-Clinton-is-a-demon blocs.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 February 2016 11:55 (eight years ago) link

hey, here's deep NYT thoughts

ROOM FOR DEBATE
Does Money Really Matter in Politics?

If Jeb Bush's enormous campaign treasury could not even get him a single victory, is the role of electoral donations exaggerated?

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:47 (eight years ago) link

Idiots.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:55 (eight years ago) link

I think a lot of people believe you can ad-buy your way into office and the person w/ more money always wins

this election is both a case of 'money not mattering' (the above is wrong) and 'money *really* mattering' - the guy who doesn't have to kowtow to the donor class gets to run on issues that aren't popular w/ them but are popular w/ actual voters. true to a certain extent w/ sanders too.

iatee, Thursday, 25 February 2016 13:04 (eight years ago) link

Dumb question, but I'm dumb: what happens to all of Trump's active businesses, the casinos and buildings and whatnot, if he's elected?

Bonus fascism points: his gaudy gold name all over everything already. If elected, he should promise to bring back gladiator battle.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 February 2016 13:10 (eight years ago) link

It's perfectly possible to be a private citizen and hold elected office at the same time

There are a lot of part-time state senators whose other job is, like, head of a local carwash empire

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 February 2016 13:21 (eight years ago) link

Rick Scott being floated as a potential Trump running mate. Obvious move. Given that Trump's hair is a general-election liability, it makes sense that he'd go for a nearly hair-free VP.

http://histalk2.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/rickscott_thumb.png

rock me, I'm a deist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 25 February 2016 13:43 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqLfvQfuvsA

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:17 (eight years ago) link

She's got guts, can I vote for her?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:28 (eight years ago) link

what could Trump possibly gain with Skeletor as a running mate? He's already got the white mummy vote.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:29 (eight years ago) link

Holy hell, fuck all those people in the video saying "that's inappropriate" and "that's rude."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:42 (eight years ago) link

Maybe they were calling Clinton rude for her horrible quote.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:44 (eight years ago) link

prediction: if trump wins the nomination, at some point in the race after picking a running mate, he will publicly denigrate them

iatee, Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:46 (eight years ago) link

They should've been.

There was also the "you're trespassing!" idiot.

xp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:46 (eight years ago) link

Everything by everyone pertaining to the 1994 crime bill is atrocious and embarrassing. Disappointed that it seems like Hillary was almost ready to engage while at the same time not trying to stop her security detail from showing the young lady the door. I realize you don't want to set a precedent of engaging with a protester anytime anywhere, but she really missed an ideal "come to Jesus" moment there.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:50 (eight years ago) link

i agree, she should apologize for that statement at least. i hated when she rhetorically asked the protester if she wanted to "hear the facts," like, the girl obviously knew the facts better than the polite audience members

Treeship, Thursday, 25 February 2016 15:28 (eight years ago) link

Hil lets the veil drop fairly easily when she's not at a big canned event

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 February 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link

Rich Lowry whimpers. The second to last paragraph is especially rich.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/anti-donald-trump-ads-opinion-213675

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 February 2016 15:57 (eight years ago) link

That Lowry piece has some post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc problems.

This will all be in the tradition of the early Democratic ad campaigns that successfully kneecapped Republican nominees in 1996 and 2012 (Bob Dole and Mitt Romney, respectively).

It's not shown that D ads "successfully kneecapped" Dole and Romney - they could have lost for other reasons. It also leaves open the question of what unnamed, unseen force it was that "kneecapped" McCain 2008 (or, for that matter, Bush in 1992).

rock me, I'm a deist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 25 February 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link

the trump university thing should be an ace in the hole, no? that was a direct scam targeting people who couldn't afford or didn't have time for conventional business school

Treeship, Thursday, 25 February 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

the trump university thing should be an ace in the hole, no? that was a direct scam targeting people who couldn't afford or didn't have time for conventional business school

Do you think Trump's followers will care? It seems like he's giving purpose to a lot of people who are lost; reading messageboards and haunts for his supporters, it's like these people were given a second breath of life. What do you think their limits will be as far as his personal corruption goes? I wonder what the limit would be.

As far as regular people go, maybe it'll be relevant. I can't imagine Trump will win just with his true believers on board. Though flagrant and obvious corruption doesn't seem to bother the average Republican... who knows, some may even give him credit for pulling off a quality scam.

larry appleton, Thursday, 25 February 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link

attack ads won't be aimed at Trump's authoritarianbots

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:01 (eight years ago) link

gonna just start calling them Trumplings

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:02 (eight years ago) link

morning, Shakey!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:02 (eight years ago) link

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, when asked to comment on Mexico refusing to pay for a wall between the two countries, says, "The wall just got ten feet higher."

lol he should just keep doing this until the imagined wall reaches space. the thought of it will be our legacy.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link

anyway traditionally we go by shirt color iirc.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link

xps yup, for Trump's base any attack ad will just increase affinity - "they're out to get him"

anonanon, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link

"keep talking mister, that's another two weeks of detention. now three weeks. i can keep doing this all day."

Mordy, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link

attack ads won't be aimed at Trump's authoritarianbots

― Οὖτις, Thursday, February 25, 2016 12:01 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

exactly

marcos, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link

Scenarios (just briefly skimmed--looks interesting):

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/republicans-last-ditch-hope-to-stop-donald-trump/

clemenza, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:09 (eight years ago) link

are these guys nuts? nobody in the GOP primary base gives a shit about misogyny

https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/702868802728550402

https://twitter.com/reihan/status/702867018287083520

check all those replies too. wake the fuck up dudes!

goole, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:09 (eight years ago) link

NRO pleased with the NYT feature on his visa-worker hypocrisy. Neolibs and cons, kumbaya.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/431908/donald-trump-immigration-hypocrite-who-ignores-american-workers

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:09 (eight years ago) link

trump will lose hispanics & women by record margins for a GOP nominee, will be fun to see

marcos, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:10 (eight years ago) link

Lots of Hillary Derangement Syndrome types saying she should go to jail for emails FFS but not prepared to engage with the possibility of Trump's mafia connections.

jedi slimane (suzy), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:11 (eight years ago) link

are these guys nuts?

deluded and/or moronic

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:13 (eight years ago) link

someone has to figure out how to ridicule and emasculate him -- i think the problem is that all the conservative types with a talent for insults and bullying are fans of trump

goole, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link

seriously baffling Christie never took a crack at it, went for the murder suicide with Rubio instead

anonanon, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link

My Dad's had to have a couple procedures this week, and I've been spending time with him in the hospital, among other things watching the most regular network TV since, er, when I was in the hospital last spring. One thing i've noticed is Rubio and his PACs are spending serious coin on ads here in Tejas, with at least one running during every break during the news and other issue programming.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link

hi!

The Donald Trump juggernaut rolls into Florida where the GOP front-runner leads native son Sen. Marco Rubio 44 – 28 percent among likely Republican primary voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas has 12 percent with Ohio Gov. John Kasich at 7 percent and Dr. Ben Carson at 4 percent.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:23 (eight years ago) link

haha holy shit

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link

of course, why would anyone in Florida like Rubio - he hasn't done shit for them

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link

Florida GOP primary voters are overwhelmingly non-Cuban.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link

non-campaign pro-trump robocall: "The American National Super PAC makes this call to support Donald Trump. I am William Johnson, a farmer and white nationalist. The white race is dying out in America and Europe because we are afraid to be called “racist.”"

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-robocall-super-tuesday-william-daniel-johnson

goole, Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link

Lots of Hillary Derangement Syndrome types saying she should go to jail for emails FFS but not prepared to engage with the possibility of Trump's mafia connections.

I like the term "functionally irrational" for describing what looks to be a very large voting bloc in the US (and probably everywhere).

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link

The American National Super PAC makes this call to support Donald Trump. I am William Johnson, a farmer and white nationalist. The white race is dying out in America and Europe because we are afraid to be called “racist.”

this call is getting worse all the time

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link

warning: boxing history

@mtaibbi
Trump-Hillary would be Hagler-Hearns, for months and with no breaks between rounds. Unmatched rage/ugliness factor.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:36 (eight years ago) link

On Trump leading Florida polls: no surprise that America's wang likes America's head wang-waver.

rock me, I'm a deist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:38 (eight years ago) link

i can completely see, come September, the Katha Pollitt Gang declaring that any lefty who fails to vote for HRC (even in an uncontested state) IS A FASCIST.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 February 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link


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