I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

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i am anxious to see what hillary or bernie is going to do when trump calls them a dumb loser or whatever

― spirited ai weiwei (Treeship), Friday, February 26, 2016 1:14 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seems like it shdnt be hard to point out that hes an petty insubstantial name caller

reading this made me less confident that clinton would whup trump

http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency

Trump will capitalize on his reputation as a truth-teller, and be vicious about both Clinton’s sudden changes of position (e.g. the switch on gay marriage, plus the affected economic populism of her run against Sanders) and her perceived dishonesty. One can already imagine the monologue:

“She lies so much. Everything she says is a lie. I’ve never seen someone who lies so much in my life. Let me tell you three lies she’s told. She made up a story about how she was ducking sniper fire! There was no sniper fire. She made it up! How do you forget a thing like that? She said she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, the guy who climbed Mount Everest. He hadn’t even climbed it when she was born! Total lie! She lied about the emails, of course, as we all know, and is probably going to be indicted. You know she said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq! It was a lie! Thousands of American soldiers are dead because of her. Not only does she lie, her lies kill people. That’s four lies, I said I’d give you three. You can’t even count them. You want to go on PolitiFact, see how many lies she has? It takes you an hour to read them all! In fact, they ask her, she doesn’t even say she hasn’t lied. They asked her straight up, she says she usually tries to tell the truth! Ooooh, she tries! Come on! This is a person, every single word out of her mouth is a lie. Nobody trusts her. Check the polls, nobody trusts her. Yuge liar.”

Where does she even begin to respond to this? Some of it’s true, some of it isn’t, but the more she tries to defensively parse it (“There’s been no suggestion I’m going to be indicted! And I didn’t say I usually tried to tell the truth, I said I always tried and usually succeeded”) the deeper she sinks into the hole.

Trump will bob, weave, jab, and hook. He won’t let up. And because Clinton actually has lied, and actually did vote for the Iraq War, and actually is hyper-cosy with Wall Street, and actually does change her positions based on expediency, all she can do is issue further implausible denials, which will further embolden Trump. Nor does she have a single offensive weapon at her disposal, since every legitimate criticism of Trump’s background (inconsistent political positions, shady financial dealings, pattern of deception) is equally applicable to Clinton, and he knows how to make such things slide off him, whereas she does not.

although i don't think it convinced me that bernie would do any better

hillary shrugs smiles and says in a cheerfully exasperated tone "this is what donald always does when someone points out he has no plan or experience he calls names and then says hes the best at everything"

lol the media veering wildly from trump is week trump cant win to trump is the next president

Hillary: "There you go again..."

Donald: "Oh look, your husband's getting a blowjob backstage."

hillary shrugs smiles and says in a cheerfully exasperated tone "this is what donald always does when someone points out he has no plan or experience he calls names and then says hes the best at everything"

― lag∞n, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:29 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thats good you should tell her to say that

"and i went to his wedding bcz he gave the Foundation money, that was his offer" xxxp

he knows how to make such things slide off him, whereas she does not.

Yeah, that's why her Senate career flamed out, and why she was never able to get confirmed as Secretary of State, and...

thats good you should tell her to say that

― flopson, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:31 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think its p obvious both rubio and cruz said as much last night tho it was hard to hear through all the yelling

now if i go down to the breakroom to eat my sammich this circus is going to be the CNN soundtrack

yes THEY TURNED UP THE SOUND now

I feel like, for most of the people who've debated or will debate him, a quick n' easy retort to any 'loser' verbiage from Trump would be, "Hey, Donald, refresh my memory: how many elections have you won?"

Trump attacking anybody for flip-flopping for political expediency would be painting a target on his own back

if all these low-hanging trump zings will slay him in presidential debates, why hasn't anything anyone's said to him in R debates yet made a dent?

no one's really gone after him before last night, except for Jebra, which was major weak sauce

also general debate w Dems is going to be on a different playing field, with different avenues of attack available

he is pretty thin-skinned though, which is p obvious by now. also short-fingered.

I don't think it helps trump that there are half a dozen people onstage and the other republicans actually are dumb losers. I think a one-on-one will be a bit different. Maybe.

I think it helps I mean

the easiest way to piss him off in a clinton/trump debate would be to cite poll data constantly as he will inevitably be behind

dude LOVES polls

Because half the people who vote in republican primaries are crazy as shit? Also because they firmly believe the country is going to hell due to Obama, and everyone else on the stage has in some way enabled Obama, so nothing they say can be trusted.

Oh wow xxxxp

if all these low-hanging trump zings will slay him in presidential debates, why hasn't anything anyone's said to him in R debates yet made a dent?

― flopson, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:39 PM (3 minutes ago)

dude, look at the people who are voting in GOP primaries and then compare it to general election voters

http://www.achewood.com/comic.php%3Fdate%3D02262016

oh pshaw
http://www.achewood.com/comic.php?date=02262016

reading this made me less confident that clinton would whup trump

Hillary really needs to watch and rewatch the video of Obama roasting Trump at the WH Correspondents' dinner. It's so delightful every time the camera cuts to Trump. He hates it soooo much.

if all these low-hanging trump zings will slay him in presidential debates, why hasn't anything anyone's said to him in R debates yet made a dent?

― flopson, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:39 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no one's really gone after him before last night, except for Jebra, which was major weak sauce

― Οὖτις, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:40 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also general debate w Dems is going to be on a different playing field, with different avenues of attack available

― Οὖτις, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:40 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup, also its not just the debates no ones gone after him in ads on the stump etc, dems will build a case, trump has a loooot of baggage and hes never had someone call him on it before

i think part of the issue for cruz + rubio is that they're also substanceless bullshitters trying to trick voters into voting for them so even tho rubio gets all smug "look he doesn't have a real healthcare plan" it's not like any of his policies are particularly detailed.

if trumps the nominee he cld win obvs if theres only two choices both of them have a shot but imo its more likely he loses while doing long term damage to the republican party, if hes nominated some ppl are gonna leave and never come back, and obvs any sort of rapprochement with poc is off the table in anyone now alives lifetime

lol the media veering wildly from trump is week trump cant win to trump is the next president

― lag∞n, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:30 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

betting markets stable. nothing has changed. they should settle down.

http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-winner

in a 2 horse race a lead like this at this early stage is enormous btw

BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA I was so wrong
http://www.vox.com/2016/2/26/11120530/chris-christie-endorses-donald-trump

if bernies nominated who knows what the fuck will happen bernie v trump is some serious alternate reality shit, but that looks like a long shot

bernie is not going to be nominated, he's pretty much done after next tuesday

ya

betting markets stable. nothing has changed. they should settle down.

there's really no reason why this market should be super stable while the 'trump wins or not' one is super chaotic. (like the real reason is nobody cares about this market, but because of that it's not that useful.)

it is kind of bonkers how many of my friends wholeheartedly believe "bernie is the only chance we have of winning this election" , wildly overestimating both trump & bernie's appeal

bernie fans r such awful smug meme posting blowhards on facebook my lord ppl youre not helping yr cause

bernie is not going to win, but super tuesday is not necessarily going to deal him his death blow. there are plenty of states after next tuesday that bernie should do much better in, although the question is probably how close he keeps some of the races on tuesday. if he gets smoked, as it looks like he might, that could hurt his fundraising efforts and bring him a lot of bad PR

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/12742411_970587466368829_7296561313602506701_n.jpg

i cannot get out of my head the line about how bernie is a left-wing fb meme come to life

bernie fans r such awful smug meme posting blowhards on facebook my lord ppl youre not helping yr cause

― lag∞n, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:59 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcKJ4yUUUAE8pTv.jpg

this really does look like a guy who knows he just sold his soul

lol check out this shit someone posted yesterday

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcHqT4bUEAAvQV_.jpg

like they just put a saying they liked over a picture of bernie lol

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I lol'ed

bernie fans r such awful smug meme posting blowhards on facebook my lord ppl youre not helping yr cause

― lag∞n, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:59 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it is fucking abominable. there are hillary versions of this too though & they can be just as awful

bernie fans r such awful smug meme posting blowhards on facebook my lord ppl youre not helping yr cause

― lag∞n, Friday, February 26, 2016 1:59 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm definitely one of these ppl. sorry

nobody even likes his policies they just want the president to be sufficiently memeable. inevitable consequences of letting millenials vote. xp