depends on the culture. people shouldn't have to stay after the hours they're paid for, but i know in a lot of careers, eg architecture, maybe journalism, it's considered a bare minimum.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 07:25 (eight years ago) link
in t3l3v1s10n, I had to deal with staff who would sometimes go home on Friday having "run out of time" to actually schedule programs for Sunday afternoon in the system
― glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 07:48 (eight years ago) link
Don't run out of time to do stuff that's on your radar that you have plenty of time to do. Don't stay after hours ever except in dire emergencies. Don't be a dick, don't work for dicks.
― I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 08:10 (eight years ago) link
missed deadlines happen, I think though there is an expectation that if you are going to miss the deadline, that you give a head's up in advance about it, rather than waiting for someone to chase you down to ask about it. def agree tho that people shouldn't be forced to work 18 hour days to meet a deadline
I'm fairly obsessive about not missing deadlines but if one looks in danger, I usually give notice indicating we're not likely to finish on time, indicate some kind of root cause as to why we're behind/if we need something additional, and a new estimated complete date that is conservative enough that I can meet but aggressive enough that it's not putting anything else at risk and fair to the person who assigned to me.
if the deadline's ridiculous to begin with, I'll say so from the onset, and ask for additional help if they won't budge. fortunate that my boss is sympathetic to those things, cos other people I know have told me theirs tells them "well tough, get it done, I don't care how long it takes". fuck that
someone just lets a major deadline pass without comment, though yeah, fuck that.
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:58 (eight years ago) link
Yeah this is what i was angling at. There are some jobs where you just have to Get A Thing Done because it has a deadline/other people relying on it.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link
I worked in the PS for years and "this isnt my role" or "its home time now eff off" was incredibly common.
PS = Public Sector or PS= Private Sector or PS= something else?
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link
sorry, public service/sector. Govt work.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:13 (eight years ago) link
But yeah if some dick boss throws a massive job on your desk at 4.50 on Friday and says THIS MUST BE DONE READY FOR MONDAY MORNING, I think murder is an acceptable angle.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:15 (eight years ago) link
The boss is incrementally making changes to my design of a safe-using-of-illict-drugs brochure which started off looking like a parody of a certain well-known self-help book (as I was instructed to make it) so that it no longer looks like said book, rendering the current design inexplicable, and also now makes no sense
― 🐸 a hairy, howling toad torments a man whose wife is deathly i (James Morrison), Thursday, 28 April 2016 01:32 (eight years ago) link
I'd try to make sure the boss leaves verifiable fingerprints on the original instruction and the subsequent changes.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 28 April 2016 01:34 (eight years ago) link
coworker gets in these weird moods where she just hums to herself allllllll day long and I want to drown her
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 April 2016 02:31 (eight years ago) link
co-worker today on a call that I was merely observing kept stating her confusion on this one particular item over and over, and the host kept restating his reassurances and next steps (follow-up meeting) over and over to where I began to wonder if I was in a time loop.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 28 April 2016 02:51 (eight years ago) link
Oh quit being so whiney.
― pplains, Thursday, 28 April 2016 03:19 (eight years ago) link
lol took me a sec
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 28 April 2016 03:20 (eight years ago) link
OH. lol.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2016 03:42 (eight years ago) link
idgi
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 April 2016 04:08 (eight years ago) link
battle of the egomaniacal, pan-genre overproducers w/ albums of shimmering genius that i want to drown in '10
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 28 April 2016 04:08 (eight years ago) link
actually oops it's this one:
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=67985
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 28 April 2016 04:09 (eight years ago) link
Thats a 77 thread.
― Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2016 04:13 (eight years ago) link
THEN NOBODY WILL EVER KNOW...THE ANSWER
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 28 April 2016 04:20 (eight years ago) link
co-workers are now on their second day of arguing about whether sports should honor full-season champions (like the premier league) or have playoffs (like north american sports)
decided to listen to tubular bells instead
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link
My office is dog friendly. And I hear all of you. AW! YOU GET TO HANG OUT WITH DOGS ALL DAY! WHO'S A PRETTY BOY?
Well. I've got this one behind me who lays at his owner's feet and gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws on its fucking chew toy ALL DAY LONG.
I will say that it hasn't barked today, like it did Friday whenever someone would, you know, walk through our area.
― pplains, Thursday, 12 May 2016 19:43 (eight years ago) link
You didn't hear me say it.
Dog friendly
Fuck off
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 May 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link
some places need to just be for adults/humans.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Thursday, 12 May 2016 22:36 (eight years ago) link
All places tbh
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 May 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link
jfc
i have enough trouble with these ppl without introducing their animals into the equation
nope nope nope
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 May 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link
We don't have a dog-friendly office, but we do have a tradition of, whenever the dog-hating boss is away, someone will bring in their dog and sit them in her chair, and we photograph it.
― 🐸a hairy howling toad torments a man whose wife is deathly ill (James Morrison), Thursday, 12 May 2016 23:59 (eight years ago) link
You have to make your own fun round here.
That doesn't sound terrible. I couldn't stand a workplace with a dog unless it was a junkyard or something outdoors.
― how's life, Friday, 13 May 2016 00:24 (eight years ago) link
I think one of the few things worse than being a person made to go an office every day is being a dog made to go to an office every day.
― pplains, Friday, 13 May 2016 01:02 (eight years ago) link
^^
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 May 2016 03:10 (eight years ago) link
this is a bare-bones summary of a broken-record convo I heard the other day. I was laughing for probably five straight minutes.
Doofus: i wanna talk to you about <platform>. you told our client we might have <platform> go live 7/1 despite delaying <other platform> to 8/1. we can't do that.
Leader: I don't think I said we were considering having <other platform> delayed to 8/1. We were just talking about sending specific files later.
Doofus: Ok because <platform> can't go live if <other platform> doesn't go live.
Leader: Understandable. I don't think we're talking about that, though. We are just talking about possibly changing the date certain files are sent.
Doofus: Ok - just so we're clear that we can't have <platform> go live, if <other platform> doesn't also go live. That isn't even an option, we need to not offer that.
Leader: I don't think we're going to. So - assuming that, could you create an order to have your team start working on <assignment>?
Doofus: That's going to depend on you all. As long as <other platform> goes live at the same time, we can do that - but we can't have <platform> go live before <other platform>.
Leader: Ok, ok, ok. Assume <other platform> going live 8/1 is off the table. Assume it's going live 7/1, like <platform>. Can you guys create the order to get the ball rolling on <assignment>.
Doofus: Well, it depends. I just want to make clear to you that <platforms> have to both go live at the same time.
......
I hung up after, I was giggling so hard and yet at the same time I knew if I listened to another second I might ping said person and say "OMG STFU ALREADY".
― Neanderthal, Friday, 13 May 2016 03:13 (eight years ago) link
I'm really tempted to run a practical course on the fine art of how to eat an apple or bag of crisps without being overheard from a distance of 6 rows of desks.
― Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 11:24 (eight years ago) link
cube neighbor SHOUTS HIS PHONE CONVERSATIONS IN A BOOMING VOICE ALL DAY
For a long time I thought he had a middle ear issue bc he is a loudtalker in general
the other day he placed an apologetic phonecall to a customer in a low normal speaking voice & i wanted to run over & shout J'ACCUSE! So you CAN talk in a normal volume motherfucker WTF
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link
Cube neighbor SHOUTS ALL OF HIS CONVERSATIONS IN A BOOMING VOICE ALL DAY. Like, all day. Every day. I don't know how he gets work done. Or why no one has acted on the many complaints they've received about him.
There are about 8 million things about this dude that irritate me on an almost cellular level but I think the top two at the moment are 1) his "laugh", which is uniformly this completely fake and weirdly forced wheezy exhalation that would seem to indicate that he's never actually heard a human laugh before (and I'm certain that I have yet to hear an actual laugh come out of his face) and 2) his apparent wish to slowly kill me by using 'yadda yadda' in every third sentence.
But seriously. I could absolutely swamp this thread with an array of fascinating details about Blabbermouth.
― Wet Food (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 13:08 (eight years ago) link
I genuinely think Kutcher is gonna jump out any minute and tell me I've been punked, such is the voluminous and unceasing stream of stupidity hitting my inbox this morning. Like, deep and profound, 'I have suddenly forgotten the most basic functions of my job' stupidity. I'd suspect a gas leak or some other freak incident that was impairing cognitive function en masse but this is coming from multiple offices so I'll just blame Obama.
― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link
I had to test our phone lines this week on a specific platform (one I'm new to). I read the SOP - they have three platforms (including mine) in the same SOP, but this platform uses an entirely different system than the other two. SOP is full of info that's completely irrelevant, and missing instructions that I need because of this.
Asked around for a solid week to fill in the gaps - some of the answers I got in bits and pieces, some of them nobody could answer after going to five people. Just finished testing and I have no earthly fucking idea if it's done correctly.
*throws hands up*
― Neanderthal, Friday, 17 June 2016 11:46 (eight years ago) link
SHOUTS HIS PHONE CONVERSATIONS IN A BOOMING VOICE ALL DAY
Yes - there's someone in my office space who does this - and she's says 'know what I mean' every 10 seconds. The whole purpose of these conversations as far as I can tell is to communicate to the office "Look! I'm doing all this!".
Even worse is she likes to get up and do a self-satisfied lap of honour around the office after a round of calls, obviously energised by calls that have achieved absolutely nothing in practical terms.
― Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Friday, 17 June 2016 12:01 (eight years ago) link
if you can be heard more than like a row behind your desk, stfu, is how i see it
― Neanderthal, Friday, 17 June 2016 12:23 (eight years ago) link
Everyone one phones and in browsers watching footballSend mail to the team leads pointing out we're not blind Mail was just forwarded on to teamPandemonium and outrage
Im not displeased tbh
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Friday, 17 June 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link
I've had three loudtalkers
Two of them were in one place where, because of the nature of the phone calls they were getting, you couldn't really blame them
The other one was a monster though ... the voice used to rise up, up and up ... this from two long desks away ... it always consisted of 'I think ... I think ...' and it was either about football or work related that they 'thought ...'
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 18 June 2016 01:57 (eight years ago) link
@ darragh I hate football at work tbh, the way you get pressed for an opinion on it and there is no right answer
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 18 June 2016 01:58 (eight years ago) link
xpost i can almost guarantee my office loudtalker has everyone beat
he's like a cross between morning zoo radio dj and a monster truck rally announcer
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 June 2016 05:13 (eight years ago) link
permaloud, always. no indoor voice at all. ONLY THE OUTSIDE VOICE, ALWAYS
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 June 2016 05:14 (eight years ago) link
the loud talker in our office is the Skype speaker they use for meetings - every morning the people phoning into scrums blast out of the thing like some kind of tannoy announcement.
― koogs, Saturday, 18 June 2016 08:42 (eight years ago) link
what chaps me is when people loud-talk while having very personal calls.
there was this co-worker once who was going through a divorce and decided to have his arguments with his soon to be ex-spouse at max volume a row behind me.
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 18 June 2016 12:21 (eight years ago) link
working from home has been so nice
^otm
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Saturday, 18 June 2016 14:52 (eight years ago) link
i'm thinking we should hold some kind of loud-talker world cup.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 18 June 2016 15:48 (eight years ago) link