Star Trek Discovery: The Bryan Fuller TV reboot

TV seems to have lost their touch - its all been downhill since Picard gave Mr Data his last rimjob

I've thought for a while that taking the "Far Beyond the Stars" conceit as real would've been amazing, though not exactly sustainable on a series-wide basis (i.e. that would've been a much better DS9 finale than what we got).

what does the startrekman have to say about all this

time to merge star trek and star wars and add in ALF

https://inventorysystemsoftware.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/gene-roddenberry-george-lucas.jpg

Hmm, well Paramount will probably sell the Trek to Disney once they are finally able to admit to themselves the glaringly-obvious fact that they're embarrassed to own the property, and I'm pretty sure ALF is a Muppet, so I think this has legs.

you dont think wb would buy trek to keep the wb/disney battle going on a new front?

Interesting proposal, I look forward to the WB Trek movie where Spock drives an axe through Kirk's spinal column for no particular good reason other than that it's totally dark + extreme to the max.

I think they may reenvision ALF as CGI

...looks like I should edit the thread title

http://tvline.com/2016/10/26/star-trek-discovery-bryan-fuller-showrunner-stepping-down/

Oh great another Kurtzman-Goldsman joint. Because they did such a great job with Fringe.

akiva goldsman's continued success is one of life's great mysteries

oh c'mon, s2-4ish of Fringe were pretty good

this is weird to me. why would fuller walk away from this because he 'doesn't have time'? clearly something must have been going wrong.

I hear he wants to spend more time with his family.

season 3 of fringe was pretty good. then kurtzman & orci demanded a dumb cliffhanger and the show never recovered.

Trek has always had a mix of inspired weirdos and hacks, I feel like it benefits from that.

Fuller's working on at least two other tv series, including American Gods. If the Paramount people kept meddling and were an irritating presence, it'd be a good reason to bail.

He's still writing/plotting at least

http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/14/13962170/star-trek-discovery-lead-walking-dead

Sonequa Martin-Green will play the lead (the XO of Discovery).

Should we change this thread title?

I'm not going to believe this show is happening until there's an actual pilot date.

Should we change this thread title?
to:
Sasha Deathwatch

It's funny how much she looks like a younger Angela Bassett who had been tipped to be in the series.

wasn't there a rumor they were doing an anthology series with a different timeframe/cast each season? hmm.

Well this is still taking forever. I will however happily back this:

https://tvline.com/2017/03/31/star-trek-discovery-rainn-wilson-harry-mudd-cbs-all-access/

lol I watched the original Mudd ep the other night w my daughter and the entire time I was distracted by the highly visible shaving line all around Carmel's neck.

Fucking hell it's tomorrow

I have concerns but I really *want* it to be good

I guess I hadn't been paying attention but, uh, you have to pay for some CBS streaming service to watch this beyond the first episode? Really? I hope everyone enjoys the first ST series to last exactly one season.

It's on Netflix in the UK and a bunch of other countries

A few reviews have slipped through the embargo and been decent

This should be worth a flyer just for more Michelle Yeoh.

I'm sorry, I misunderstood: CBS is only airing the first half of the two hour pilot on actual TV. Fun idea.

If they streamed it only on the CBS app but allowed digital purchases on amazon, itunes, etc. it'd make more sense. but, afaik, they are making it only available on the CBS app

so irritating, I'd shell out for the entire season purchase even if it trickles out a week at a time as per usual

i'll probably wait until next year and stream the whole season then. or find "other ways" that will appear soon, i'm sure

I just did the free CBS trial on my tv device, but I guess it doesn't air until tonight? boo

I guess I hadn't been paying attention but, uh, you have to pay for some CBS streaming service to watch this beyond the first episode? Really? I hope everyone enjoys the first ST series to last exactly one season.

― Señor Winces (Old Lunch)

yeah i mean i know game of thrones seems to do ok and all but i'm not sure why directly adopting a piracy-based business model is cbs's schtick here

anyway when the streaming service fails they'll probably just toss it to another streaming service. doesn't necessarily doom the show.

Phase II - proposed for Paramount Television Service, a fourth US network
Voyager (1995-2001), Enterprise (2001-2005) - designed to support UPN (1995-2006)

nice ship -- too bad they haven't invented probes yet and have to send their first officer into lethal radiation

this was fun but fuck CBS for making me watch a thousand NAVY SEALS promos and then asking for money to keep watching

points for having the main plot thread be about a black woman trying to tell everybody "no really, they're going to kill all of us" and being shouted down

cbs has consistently been tightassed with digital access to its programming since the tv-web boom, it's annoying

Enjoying this!

First question: how can I get one of those dope uniforms

We signed up for free trial - canceled after 2nd ep & got a month free so 4 more episodes

But seriously $6 for 1 original show and commercials is a joke. $10 if you want commercial free? Eat a dick

A few minutes in, it looks right at least. The ship and cinematography look like a Star Trek show (vs. the new movies).

New Klingons - ehhhhhhhh. The makeup is so heavy their faces barely move.

Huh.

The theme manages to have twelve different sections, goes a bit Mahler for some reason, not very catchy

Although I speak as someone who liked Faith of the Heart so ignore me

Only seen the first hour - I feel like I can semi-credibly guess which ideas/dialogue came from Fuller and what came from Kurtzman/Goldsman. Not bad but the character-backstory shit is hacky and painful.

Thought it was ok. Will keep watching.

But yeah, the theme tune is a mess

I liked the show!

At the beginning I was thinking "hmm, is this Star Trek enough?"

But, thinking back, the best shows start out with their own scope and integrate. Enterprise was slavishly devoted to tying into continuity while not fleshing out much history. More than anything I got the impression that someone (Fuller? looked like he was the writer w/Ortzman) had an understanding of what TNG and DS9 did well.

The previews make it look like it's going to be scientific discovery (hah!) in a time of war. Which is a clearer mission statement than we've gotten recently.

So far we’ve had a Zack Snyder section, kind of an Ocean’s 11 moment and now on to Guardians of the Galaxy

Comedy Irish accent time

By CHRIST did this film shit the bed.

Joss Whedon might have punched up this script

NOT REALLY ANY SPOILERS HERE I HOPE

- that irish accent was excerable, like a jarjar binks caricature
- the fuck was with the acting chops of the mech-man guy? I looked him up, he's from.... Eastenders? lol. He was shithouse
- Yeoh was so camp she was a tent.
- Anachronistic dialogue and music (autotune singing, EDM, at one point I heard a song with words about "call me on the phone").
- Did not learn a THING about Section 31 as an organization.
- So much pointless exposition. Yes, its clear what just happened why are you now spending 5 minutes rehashing it for the audience?
- so many Big Long Punchups I got a headache. Nice covert ops there, team!

I hate marvel movies and this was like a really shit marvel movie.

Kool Aid Man time

Tracy OTM

I thought this would be bad in the Discovery vein - 30 minutes of talking about feelings and trauma bonding while the universe is dying etc. - but an AI feeling seen would have been so much better than this crap.

Kool Aid Man time
I admit I did actually LOL at that scene but it just made me wish dad-bod Parks&Rec era Chris Pratt had the role instead and played it for slapstick.

I guess the Terran Empire is in the same universe as the Hunger Games.

what

the

shit

am i watching rn

20 minutes in and i’m already angry & bored

i’ve seen ppl compare it to the first Suicide Squad but to me it has the exact same stink that the Borderlands movie had. All this unearned “sass” and so much fuckin whizzbangery effects & filters & in service of absolutely fucking nothing because the no one will stop explaining themselves & what they do long enough to HAVE a plot

fucking hate this kind of lazy bullshit it makes me so mad

and Ireland should declare war on us for that accent yeeeeeeeiiiikes

It’s a melange of better but still shit movies.

a cinematic hotdog

Ireland should declare war on us for that accent yeeeeeeeiiiikes

hard to imagine it's worse than scotland's suffered for 60 years now

Oh it is. Jar Jar-esque is not an exaggeration.

and then a steaming turd of a bad Southern accent to finish it off, chef’s kiss no notes

I'm never going to watch it but I love this discussion, lol

I appreciate the fact that they delivered us an incredibly undercooked series in 95 minutes instead of stretching it into 6 - 8 episodes. Do I need 2/3rds of an episode to delve into the mech man’s body dysmorphia? No. Would some exposition have helped in spots in order to make me give a shit about some of the characters? Probably!
Would I have watched a 6 - 8 episode version that was just as bad and spent my life doing that instead of something else? Likely.

lol yeah i guess that is the upside to all this

Wow - noped out after 16 minutes.

This is clearly a “the only winning move is not to play” situation so I thank everyone for their service.

I decided to watch Balance of Power for the first time instead. It’s pretty good!

NED GODDAMMIT YOU WATCH THIS

I'm at least pleased I didnt pay a cent for this because woof.

I think I'll rewatch some more DS9 today to wash off the ick.

xpost Haha you can’t make me

>:(

first to watch everything but this yeah i see how you are COWARD RAGGETT

just checking this thread after seeing the chaotic trailer and man if a fun movie loses VegGrrl it has truly lost the war. such a forgiving movie fan!

oh well i will keep watching old Chopped episodes. or maybe season two of the night agent...

xpost I’m currently watching this terrible Godfrey Ho-adjacent film and I have no doubt it’s eight million times more entertaining than what you all suffered through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxQ_IGiXxBo-

ok that was really bad and annoying

So now we have a new answer for "what is the worst Star Trek movie ever?" I'm bummed because whatever we were collectively imagining as "Michelle Yeoh leads Star Fleet's CIA" is just so embarrassingly shitty. This is what Marvel folks put up with now? Jesus christ...

I've had very little desire to watch this based on the trailer. The fact that it's directed by the constantly-spinning-camera guy from Discovery doesn't help either. And I watched through all the TOS movies in the past two weeks, which puts me in even less of a mood for NuTrek...this thread seals the deal.

a) kacey rohl deserved better
b) her character, rachel garrett, who would ultimately captain the enterprise-c, deserved exponentially better than 'learning to appreciate chaos'
c) the dudes from 'let that be your last battlefield' were supposed to be both extremely powerful and also the last of their kind; why would you make one of them a maître d'?
d) ffs

This shit made Star Trek V look like Wrath of Khan.

Is it worth watching this at all?

Oh ugh the black/white guy. Was it really neccesary that he had to be like an extra from Drag Race or something?

I actually enjoyed how aggressively garbage this was -- there's a weirdly pro-military / anti-utopian segment of the trek fanbase that really loves the idea that the federation can't cope without a morally bankrupt black-ops service, and I'd argue this is truly the ultimate expression of that line of thinking.

And look, I'd be perfectly OK with that kind of storyline! They did that for a whole season of Babylon 5, as an example (Earth prez corrupt, sets up his own Orwellian propaganda arm, has blackshirts etc etc). They could have made a GREAT film about S31's methodology, problematic actions, struggles with/against the Federation.

but noooooooooooooo we had to have a ragtag team of fucking Guardians of the Galaxy twats punching people for 90 minutes.

The cool wars crime committing faction secretly propping up your woke commie utopia feels like a real War on Terror throwback.

Some folks look at DS9 and took all the wrong lessons from it (Section 31, Not losing a leg).

Thanks all for your service, I know not to bother with this. I've had enough of hate watching Trek.

And miss out on off-brand-borg-implanted jamie lee curtis as perhaps not the spymaster realpolitrekkies wanted, but definitely the one they deserved?

Rewatching this from the start again because my other half is a masochist or something, apaz.

Best lol so far, when Vance is trying to negotiate an armistice with the Emerald Chain but Osyrra is jerking him about and eating fruit and stalling, and he breezily says "that's made from our shit, you know".