start a victory garden and ration your IRRATIONALLY ANGRY feelings, part 3

cig butt throwing is the fucking worst.

we've had many wildfires in the US started due to shit like that (discarded cig in a wooded area).

people who stop immediately after walking out of a store... sociopaths.

this week i saw a person fling a cigarette butt onto the road, like while walking down a busy street and chatting to a friend. i was honestly so astonished by this that i came very close to confronting them about it. like... who do they think picks that up? i know i shouldn't expect such a person to have an eyepatch and a hook for a hand but they looked like a normal fairly decent human being - i just couldn't believe it. i did wonder if it could be cultural, like are there european countries where littering like this is normal or okay?

You're kidding, right? People have been putting out their butts on the street and not picking them up as long as there's been smoking. I'm not saying it's right, but ingrained behavior over generations doesn't just vanish overnight. Kind of like smoking itself.

Do you mean actually throwing it, as opposed to like dropping it on the floor and stamping it out?

yeah that's the distinction i mean. i mean i know people kind of sheepishly or otherwise dump butts outside buildings, but this was like someone walking down a busy street in a nice part of london, not like a carpark outside a pub or whatever. it just struck me as so strange.

and THROWING IT, i mean like tossed out of one hand into the middle of the road. i genuinely couldn't believe someone could be so mundane and heinous all at once.

Yeah gross

gross, but not as bad as the people I've spotted on the highway down here who like to chuck their fast food debris out of the windows of their speeding cars

ugh. also spitting.

chucking anything out of a car is pretty fucked.

https://media.giphy.com/media/kum9D2Wqqxyrm/giphy.gif

Eurgh that just reminded me that two weeks ago i was sat outside the fox in haggerston, having a pint and waiting for my friends and i got chatting to some other people outside... only for some fucker to throw eggs out a speeding car window at us. I didnt get hit but this one guy got hit by two, one right in the face. It was absolutely vile. Poor guy.

That didnt make me irrationally angry though cos its not irrational to think thats fucking disgusting.

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you've blocked roughly 1/4 of english mobile phone users from editing wikipedia pages for 6 months?

what kind of brain deficiency do you have to have to treat a merge lane in a traffic jam as some kind of magical empty lane that no-one's using

i would love an in-car taser for these assholes that duck out & try to merge back in 500 ft later

and these same assholes then just keep rolling up along side you without even trying to get a break in traffic & just creep until the lane has disappeared like the point is to physically merge with my CAR

sorry, got stuck in a lot of traffic these last couple of days, so much in-car shouting I had to vent

Every time I read about some fucking Internet troll getting thousands of dollars from a bullshit sympathy campaign on GoFundMe or wherever I want to just start punching people and flipping cars.

Veg, as long as there's a dotted white lane and no "No Passing" signs around, those cars are in the right and may be helping alleviate traffic.

Every time I read about some fucking Internet troll getting thousands of dollars from a bullshit sympathy campaign on GoFundMe or wherever I want to just start punching people and flipping cars.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 22 May 2016 19:01 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wait can anyone do this or?

I well could use £50k. I'd actually use to do something too, maybe.

Im not an internet troll though, i just earnestly post about football wrestling and how shit my personal life and trying to start my own business can be.

and these same assholes then just keep rolling up along side you without even trying to get a break in traffic & just creep until the lane has disappeared like the point is to physically merge with my CAR

These assholes are my least favorite assholes. Someone did this to me the other day (in San Francisco, no surprise) and I just cut them off and drove slightly in the other lane so they had to pull behind me. It is one of the perks of having a wider car.

The worst assholes in this regard are the ones who refuse to merge into the lanes going to 80 E (Berkeley/Sacramento) and effectively slow down Westbound traffic to San Francisco because of their sense of entitlement. This is totally rational anger.

My pet peeve is the exact opposite because you're impeding traffic when you do that.

http://i.imgur.com/2cYbLhW.gif http://i.imgur.com/GkWQAEo.gif

The biggest assholes are the people driving cars

the issue is "consistent speed" - people here in that situation will speed up in the empty lane and then slow and swerve, leading to a chain reaction of stop and go

It's already stop and go. If anything, using the extra lane would move the point of stopping and going up a little further.

the car queue in the "zipper merge" animation scenario above seems beyond optimistic

Similar thing happens in my town (which is not San Francisco, I admit.)

Here's where a single line forms, going toward North Little Rock, in the far left lane.

http://i.imgur.com/bTeuYl5.png

Even though there are two lanes available, some commuters will throw a shit fit if you try to use the right lane. Why?

http://i.imgur.com/mhLhJ8p.png

Because waaaaay up here is this sign. Fair enough, any merging does need to happen before this point, but there's no use in starting it half a mile back the other way.

http://i.imgur.com/beP7Sb0.png

THIS IS WHY THERE IS MORE THAN ONE LANE. THIS IS A MAJOR ADVANTAGE CARS HAVE OVER TRAINS.

It's already stop and go. If anything, using the extra lane would move the point of stopping and going up a little further.

― pplains, Sunday, May 22, 2016 11:27 AM (10 minutes ago)

that's the thing -- in the scenarios I see, it is not stop and go already.

AND the stupid 80E people are making traffic worse for the 80W San Francisco people, who as I see it, are totally blameless in the fact that there are too many people getting on 80E. We should not be inconvenienced by the 80E people choosing to drive a more high-traffic route.

The biggest assholes are the people driving cars

congrats on being privileged enough to not require one!

lol yes the privilege of mass transit

the privilege of living somewhere where there is mass transit, where it's safe to walk to it ...

where your job doesn't involve having to transport things in one's personal vehicle ...

ah yes the privilege of catching 2 trains and a bus i don't know how good i have it

that makes 4 trains and 2 buses to catch every day. and those poor suckers in cars don't even get to surround themselves with 50 strangers in a no-AC environment

guys please don't do this

the privilege of living somewhere where there is mass transit, where it's safe to walk to it ...

― sarahell, Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:11 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There's no mass transit in the Bay Area? "Safe" isn't a socially-acceptable-for-some-reason-I-can't-fathom codeword for the avoidance of non-white people that helped lead to the creation of automobile-centered suburbs in the first place? (Easier for a man to say, perhaps, though I've been physically otherwise quite a number of times in areas generally considered same)

My transit-based existence is certainly an accident of my birthplace, but we didn't have cars at all not much more than a century ago, and it's unsustainable imo for them to last another century in present form. We've figured out that there's something wrong with guns. Next, we have to figure out that there's something wrong with machines, however more useful at present, that kill a similar number of people before you even get to what comes out of their tailpipes, which can end or at least seriously inconvenience life on the planet for people privileged enough to be living in the present.

(Not privileged enough)

Just saying it's all your privilege to get in the fast lane, especially if you're about to lose your mind.

when people call people 'humans'

There's no mass transit in the Bay Area? "Safe" isn't a socially-acceptable-for-some-reason-I-can't-fathom codeword for the avoidance of non-white people

crime happens on the subway mr. nebb. people are harassed, especially non-male people. really not up to you to declare people's avoidance of mass transit racist.

also of course it's a privilege to live in a city with good mass transit. the G train was a pain in the ass yesterday but i still felt lucky i didn't have to drive a car.

sorry i was just annoyed by ur post bc i remember when someone got stabbed in the face on the philadelphia subway and my friend decided he didn't want to take it anymore.

woah hold up you were annoyed by a gabbneb post?

(Easier for a man to say, perhaps, though I've been physically otherwise quite a number of times in areas generally considered same)

gabbneb leads a stranger life than I thought

crime happens on the subway mr. nebb. people are harassed, especially non-male people. really not up to you to declare people's avoidance of mass transit racist.

― Treeship, Monday, May 23, 2016 7:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

really not up to you to declare what i can say about anything. i'll say both that and that the existence of suburbs in the first place is racist in part. crime can happen anywhere and everywhere - why do you think all those suburbanites are so interested in their safety systems and rural people so clingy about their guns - and i've been the victim of "crime" (or nearly same)/harassment in the subway system more than once. people who eschew urban cores and the public sphere (mass transit represented by both) are, well, some combination of [gendered anatomy reference here]/people who fail to perceive large numbers/risk appropriately - same deal with people afraid to fly who drive cars every day, which are far more dangerous than getting on the subway - and public discourse/understanding of purported urban dangers has for decades been bound up with race. whatever your intention or understanding of what you're doing, by deeming large places safe or unsafe, you're verbally redlining them and othering their inhabitants without justification.

(home security systems)

what's the gendered anatomy reference for someone who's afraid he'll get in trouble if he calls someone else a pussy but is too tickled by the idea to delete the insinuation entirely? hoping one of our british brethren can help me out

back off man -- he's survived "crime"

This thread is beginning to make me very rationally angry.

^^^

keep calm, trayce. according to benbbag, aka gabbneb, he knows just what he's talking about and he's entirely right in this matter. we know we can trust his judgment on this, because after all, he does.