Best CHEERS character

Sam gets cartoonish around that time, and the rest of the characters and plots follow suit.

also not a fan of the "look! a smart, confident, takes-no-shit woman for Sam to have to...oh wait no that was just a front, she's a neurotic mess" arc for Ms Howe.

yeah and that revelation takes place within like two episodes of her being on the show

Some of the Rebecca stuff is undeniably goofy, yes, but in a way it is almost a different show once she comes aboard. Or maybe it's own spinoff: once the Sam/Diane plot is over, the show is able to become more about the social group as a kind of extended family, and as we are already comfortable and familiar with these characters by the time this happens, it works. It also allows for what I still think of as a remarkable series finale.

I remember the finale being good but don't feel like slogging through 4 more seasons of Rebecca hijinks to get there. Her series of boss-crushes (Tom Skerritt?! I had totally forgotten about him) is p tiresome.

I think there are a lot of great Kirstie Alley-era episodes, tbh, but yeah, it's about the larger cast by this point.

Sam as the rapping sportscaster (I think that's Kirstie Alley's second episode?) is an awewsome episode. He's like a proto Homer Simpson.

Way more episodes with standard cliche sitcom plots ("oh no the boss is coming to dinner!", "oh no I'm caught in some outrageous lie, how do I keep up this pretense!" etc.)

Rebecca::Frasier, Frasier::Niles, Sam::Roz...

Been watching lots of Allie era episodes lately, currently half through the 10th season

It's interesting to see the 'rise' of the Frasier character, in the tenth season he's almost the central figure in the show.

Frasier drives a lot of storylines, def

Woody's political campaign is a favourite. All of the Woody stuff with Kelly and her family and Jean Paul, in fact. And when Lilith dumps Frasier... And when the bar burns down and Carla gets a job at Mr Pubs.

Rebecca is a lesser character than Diane but I think Kirstie Alley is a sharper comic actor and makes it work.

Woody and Lilith are def shining lights of the post-Long seasons

Glad that Cliff won this btw. I remember when they were playing Monopoly, one of the funniest scenes.

"It all goes back to my eighth grade science fair, everybody else had rabbits and guinea pigs. I had a tapeworm."
"Really?"
"Yeah, so I couldn't go."

I had forgotten that Cliff's mom actually appears onscreen (unlike Vera, iirc?), same actress that played Kyle MacLachlan's WASPy mom on Sex in the City

Vera appeared, except with her face covered in pie or something like that.

And also her legs on the stairway.

IIRC, when Vera's voice was heard or part of her was scene, like in that pie scene, she was played by George Wendt's real-life wife.

"part of her was seen"

Ah, yes!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0083579/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

I've probably mentioned this before, probably in this thread, but when George Wendt was starring in Art in the West End he was a regular figure in the balcony of the Astoria for gigs by passing US noisers and indie-rockers.

yeah his indie rock bonafides are well known

Could never tell if Jackie Swanson (Kelly) doing a great performance of a bad character or a terrible performance of a basic character, or something.

'was' doing

I've wondered for years if it showed how tall George Wendt was in that show. I wound up being an extra in a film that was made at Ardmore studios in the mid 90s where I was in a scene with him and was surprised by quite how large he was. Think he was 6ft plus and I always thought of him as not being that tall from the show.

google says he's only 5'6? maybe he was wearing elevator shoes

was this the film?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Truckers

https://media.timeout.com/images/101645791/320/210/image.jpg

It was indeed.
I think you do see me on the screen for about 30 seconds right at the beginning.

Omg that film is amazingly bad

"Nobody jacks my load!"

He can't be that tall. Here he is with Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armesin

http://i.imgur.com/qBVcPoI.jpg

That's weird I'm somewhere between 5ft 10 and 6ft and thought he was taller.

I was also surprised Dennis Hopper was smaller than I'd assumed.

A bloke I used to know was George Wendt's driver when he was doing this thing and said he was an A+ righteous dude. He never did manage to get him out to the pub with us though.

i didn't like ted danson's acting on cheers. a performance based on a few tics. strange since he's done good things since then.

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Only to the extent that *every* performance on the show was one based on a few tics. Danson has the richest character to play though--take him out of the show and you are basically left with a series of one-note sketches based on easily recognizable character types--and I thought he always (with a few exceptions, when it was more of a case of the writers letting him down) played it beautifully.

lillith is amazing

Unquestionably. Loved how the only time she laughed was at Cliff's awful stand-up jokes (which no one else laughed at).

The way Danson said "Have a nice life" in the season 5 finale kills me every time

Swanson: I've known Prince for many years—I worked on the "Raspberry Beret" video—and Kirstie and I used to fight about him. He once sent a card (saying) he had penned a song about me, called "Palomino Pleasure Ride."

I want to remake the theme song in a minor key and change the chorus to "Sometimes you wanna go to where nobody knows your name"

"Who the hell are all the people at the bottom?"

Robin Colcord ... (Roger Rees) 1
- owner of the bar during early Kirstie Alley years, sent Rebecca weak at the knees and brain

Paul Krapence ... (Paul Willson) 1
- barfly who gradually worked his way up to supporting character in last few years

About 14 years into my rewatch, and just hit Paul getting a surname: in a Season 10 episode starring Harry Connick Jr as Woody's cousin.

lol - he was in the show from Season 1!

the paul in the earlier seasons is a different character and actor.

this guy:

http://img5.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/k/c/kcb3wr1y223bb3y.jpgl

not this guy:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/cheers/images/d/d9/Paulkrapence.jpg

http://img5.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/k/c/kcb3wr1y223bb3y.jpg

oops fucked up the first link

i always remember the bit where Woody's rehearsing a romantic scene from a play with his female co-star and Kelly walks in on them kissing and immediately and angrily comes to a realization and accuses him of...being in a play behind her back.

right, that's a different character.

Paul Wilson is in Season 1 tho, imdb says: Appeared on Cheers (1982) during its first season as bar patron, Tom, before starting his recurring role of Paul in 1991.

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lol who voted for evan drake and robin colcord as best character

kelly gaines and ma claven and eddie lebec all were way better, ditto cliffie's gf played by annie golden formerly of the shirts who didn't make the list

Not even sure that note is accurate, it looks like he was credited as Paul before 1991.

- One for the Road (1993) ... Paul Krapence
- The Guy Can't Help It (1993) ... Paul Krapence
- Rebecca Gaines, Rebecca Loses (1993) ... Paul Krapence
- It's Lonely on the Top (1993) ... Paul Krapence
- Woody Gets an Election (1993) ... Paul Krapence
- Bar Wars VII: The Naked Prey (1993) ... Paul Krapence
- The Bar Manager, the Shrink, His Wife and Her Lover (1993) ... Paul Krapence
- Is There a Doctor in the Howe? (1993) ... Paul Krapence
- Norm's Big Audit (1993) ... Paul Krapence
- Sunday Dinner (1993) ... Paul Krapence
- Feelings... Whoa, Whoa, Whoa (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- Do Not Forsake Me, O' My Postman (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- The King of Beers (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- The Beer Is Always Greener (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- Heeeeeere's... Cliffy! (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- Bar Wars VI: This Time It's for Real (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- Rebecca's Lover... Not (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- Take Me Out of the Ball Game (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- Smotherly Love (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- License to Hill (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- A Diminished Rebecca with a Suspended Cliff (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- One Hugs, the Other Doesn't (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- My Son, My Father (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- No Rest for the Woody (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- Don't Shoot... I'm Only the Psychiatrist (1992) ... Paul Krapence
- Go Make (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- I'm Okay, You're Defective (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- A Fine French Whine (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- Head Over Hill (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- Where Have All the Floorboards Gone? (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- Bar Wars V: The Final Judgement (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- Unplanned Parenthood (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- Ma's Little Maggie (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- The Norm Who Came to Dinner (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- Get Your Kicks on Route 666 (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- Uncle Sam Wants You (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- Home Malone (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- Rat Girl (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- Carla Loves Clavin (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- Crash of the Titans (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- I'm Getting My Act Together and Sticking It in Your Face (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- Wedding Bell Blues (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- The Days of Wine and Neuroses (1991) ... Paul Krapence
- Woody Interruptus (1990) ... Paul Krapence
- Norm and Cliff's Excellent Adventure (1990) ... Paul Krapence
- Breaking in Is Hard to Do (1990) ... Paul Krapence
- Ma Always Liked You Better (1990) ... Paul Krapence
- Where Nobody Knows Your Name (1990) ... Paul Krapence
- Tale of Two Cuties (1988) ... Paul
- Tan 'N' Wash (1986) ... Paul
- Money Dearest (1986) ... Paul
- Strange Bedfellows: Part 1 (1986) ... Paul
- Fools and Their Money (1985) ... Paul
- Little Sister, Don't Cha (1983) ... Tom
- Someone Single, Someone Blue (1983) ... Gregg

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