Yeah he's ok w me
Tweet was inappropriate but its undeniable social media has been crucial un bringing this issue wide attention
― Οὖτις, Monday, 11 July 2016 01:03 (eight years ago) link
he is sorry
― mh, Monday, 11 July 2016 14:22 (eight years ago) link
Source?
― inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Monday, 11 July 2016 16:03 (eight years ago) link
Sorry. Im sorry. Im trying to remove it
― goole, Monday, 11 July 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link
yeah idk look at LBI's image
― mh, Monday, 11 July 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnXjMNOUsAAztY1.jpg:small
― mookieproof, Friday, 15 July 2016 02:46 (eight years ago) link
idk what 'expensify' is but they do realize the Lord of the Flies was a rotting pig's head on a stick, right?
― five memes that i can hardly stand to view (Doctor Casino), Friday, 15 July 2016 05:07 (eight years ago) link
oddly enough, so is the ceo of expensify
― mh, Friday, 15 July 2016 14:44 (eight years ago) link
should we have a thread for Sourpuss Valley techno-dystopianism?
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/07/pokemon-go-invasion-oliver-stone-snowden-surveillance/
It manipulates your behaviour. It has happened already quite a bit on the Internet, but you’ll see it everywhere—you'll see a new form of, frankly, a robot society, where they will know how you want to behave and they will make the mockup that matches how you behave and feed you. It’s what they call totalitarianism.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 22 July 2016 14:51 (eight years ago) link
lol the promos for that oliver stone snowden film look horrible
― mh, Friday, 22 July 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link
I enjoy the work of Joseph Gordon-Levitt but hearing him do that monotone "I do very important work" voice made me shake my head
― mh, Friday, 22 July 2016 15:25 (eight years ago) link
Seems relevant, in terms of mocking SV shit:
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/magazine/the-oppressive-gospel-of-minimalism.html
― Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Monday, 1 August 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link
the author retweeted this which is definitely an early stage homeware startup look right now
https://twitter.com/333333333433333/status/759038739951788032
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 1 August 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link
I think that's the shade of pink that BUTT uses
― Sean, let me be clear (silby), Monday, 1 August 2016 17:31 (eight years ago) link
He now carries nothing but a bag of clothes and a backpack containing a computer, an iPad and a smartphone. “I have zero other possessions,” he writes
Other than clothing and all of the world's knowledge, information, communications channels and entertainment at my fingertips, I have no possessions.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Monday, 1 August 2016 20:55 (eight years ago) link
that's all I took on vacation and while I was surviving, I really missed my shit
― mh, Monday, 1 August 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link
scratch that, I just had the iPad and phone in one bag and clothes in another. even then, I kept accumulating magazines and books and more shit. I am an expert shit-acquirer
― mh, Monday, 1 August 2016 20:59 (eight years ago) link
all of the world's knowledge, information, communications channels and entertainment
vast amounts of this are not on the internet but sure
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 August 2016 20:59 (eight years ago) link
no, it's all there. you just haven't found it yet.
― mh, Monday, 1 August 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link
so how about that Peter Thiel, living off the blood of youth? what a guy
“I don’t hold onto all the things society tells me to hold onto.”
deal_with_it.gif
― geometry-stabilized craft (art), Monday, 1 August 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link
"i want to live on a barge in the ocean, with other libertarians.""huh ok.""forever. i need blood."
― goole, Monday, 1 August 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link
wait was is this blood thing about
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 August 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link
Google it.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 1 August 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link
surprised the Soylent guy's escapades in "experimental housing" didn't make it to this thread yet
― El Tomboto, Monday, 1 August 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link
Peter Thiel is Dracula
― mh, Monday, 1 August 2016 21:41 (eight years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Monday, August 1, 2016 3:59 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Obv did not mean that literally, just kind of lol @ people who are like "I only travel with clothing and an iphone and ipad" when that's the equivalent of traveling with many libraries' worth of books and periodicals, maps, directories, music and movies, etc.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Monday, 1 August 2016 21:43 (eight years ago) link
yeah if you can get any fuckin' wifi that doesn't suck
― mh, Monday, 1 August 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link
I only travel with a sock to hide my genitals and a CB radio
― Sean, let me be clear (silby), Monday, 1 August 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link
and a bigass antenna for the CB
― mh, Monday, 1 August 2016 21:45 (eight years ago) link
I guess you could put that in the sock, too
idk if this is the right thread but the combination of start-up / new tech and complete gullibility around Theranos is fascinating and points to a wider issue around disruptive technology that sounds amazing but doesn't actually work.
Elizabeth Holmes' chutzpah is remarkable:
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/08/elizabeth-holmes-presentation-theranos-data
From a paywalled FT article:
“It is a bait and switch,” said Dr Geoffrey Baird, an associate professor of laboratory medicine at the University of Washington. “We were told we were going to hear about the science of Theranos, but this is a new speculative prototype idea.”“What we just saw was BS,” he added. “It is not the device they used clinically, and we saw nothing that tells us that these assays are valid or even safe for patients.”John Ioannidis, a professor at Stanford University Medical School, Ms Holmes’ alma mater, said the presentation was “better than nothing” but bemoaned the fact that the company still had not produced any peer-reviewed research.
“What we just saw was BS,” he added. “It is not the device they used clinically, and we saw nothing that tells us that these assays are valid or even safe for patients.”
John Ioannidis, a professor at Stanford University Medical School, Ms Holmes’ alma mater, said the presentation was “better than nothing” but bemoaned the fact that the company still had not produced any peer-reviewed research.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 08:00 (eight years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/12/15/blood-simpler?currentPage=all
What exactly happens in the machines is treated as a state secret, and Holmes’s description of the process was comically vague: “A chemistry is performed so that a chemical reaction occurs and generates a signal from the chemical interaction with the sample, which is translated into a result, which is then reviewed by certified laboratory personnel.” She added that, thanks to “miniaturization and automation, we are able to handle these tiny samples.”
Board members are clearly charmed by Holmes. She is a careful listener, and she is unnervingly serene; employees say that they can’t remember an instance when she raised her voice. “She has sometimes been called another Steve Jobs, but I think that’s an inadequate comparison,” Perry, who knew Jobs, said. “She has a social consciousness that Steve never had. He was a genius; she’s one with a big heart.”
Kissinger advised Holmes to concentrate on building up Theranos in the U.S. before launching it in developing nations, he said, so that “it would not look like we were experimenting on them.”
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 10:19 (eight years ago) link
Theranos has been a busted flush for a while - there's a great article from Vanity Fair from May (and one from Wired from last year) excoriating the expansion of silicon valley tech press breathlessness to medical matters (I thought I read about it on here, but I guess not?)
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/05/theranos-silicon-valley-media
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/theranos-scandal-exposes-the-problem-with-techs-hype-cycle/
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 12:03 (eight years ago) link
iirc theranos had some licensing revoked and it's valued lower than their outstanding debts
― mh, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 12:31 (eight years ago) link
Yep, went from being valued at $9bn to practically zero within a few weeks and Holmes has a two year ban on operating a lab pending.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 12:51 (eight years ago) link
http://blog.traintracks.io/a-swede-returns-to-silicon-valley-from-china-2/
My first experience of the States and of Silicon Valley was absolutely soul-crushingly disappointing. I landed in San Francisco and felt like I had traveled back in time. Far from the expected glass towers of a technological utopia, what I found was a surprisingly run down city that reminded me of traveling in Eastern Europe. It seemed to be all pot and potholes, and the culture was difficult to navigate. I was told not to discuss religion and politics, which is really all we talk about in Sweden, and I was confused by the sheer amount of narcissistic Ayn Rand followers.
What's the point of innovation if you're not building a better society?
I encountered levels of homelessness and mental illness that I was entirely unprepared for, but was repeatedly discouraged from donating any spare change by my new American community. It's not your problem, that was the mantra that un-ironically flowed from the lips of entrepreneurs that otherwise convinced themselves that they were making the world a better place, presumably for themselves and the people who were their problem. There was something absurd and almost obscene about watching the technocrats step over and around the homeless to get to jobs where they're given free food and drink.
As a Swede coming to the States, I was disillusioned. I had, as I think many young entrepreneurs have, idolized Silicon Valley as a utopian vision of an idealistic but well-meaning band of technocrats building the foundations for a just and democratic society, but in its place I found vanity, pettiness and greed. Not only did the emperor have no clothes, but the naked corpus revealed was unappetizing to my Swedish quasi-socialist ideals. Ultimately, I felt alone in Silicon Valley... I left.
― goole, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link
Well, yeah.
― Sean, let me be clear (silby), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link
yeah, San Francisco, what shithole, not enough glass towers.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link
the rest of silicon valley is way more depressing than san francisco
all the money in the world is being funneled into the area and it's just a bunch of freeways and shitty office parks
― iatee, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:21 (eight years ago) link
sweden cutting edge in minimalist lifestyles though
― esempiu (crüt), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:21 (eight years ago) link
yeah I mean I mostly agree with what that guy says, I just don't really share his affection for glass towers
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:22 (eight years ago) link
never known anyone in SF to be shy about discussing religion or politics
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link
well and he picked beijing instead so
― goole, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:31 (eight years ago) link
― El Tomboto, Monday, August 1, 2016 5:25 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
We got into it over here - Soylent - the end of food
The thing about Sweden guy is that he's so embedded in the ideology that his critique becomes incoherent. I had, as I think many young entrepreneurs have, idolized Silicon Valley as a utopian vision of an idealistic but well-meaning band of technocrats building the foundations for a just and democratic society... Er - - - so wait, which is it, technocracy or democracy? If you're actually surprised to find that technocrats treat capitalism's inequities as externalities (or as invisible), then it sounds like maybe you don't know much about technocrats. The "glass towers" thing, which equates the built fabric of a city with its degree of managed social progress, just layers that over with weird throwbacks to the interwar Modernist imaginary - when the technocrats are in charge, everyone will live in glass towers of light and air!
― we're gonna live in spatula city (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link
"no i did actually want absurd utopian futurism, you americans are just blind greedy sickos"
― goole, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link
Dr. C otm
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:33 (eight years ago) link
Yeah it's kind of obvious he's circumscribing the real narrative which is that the money in the SV dried up for him but the PRC has backed up to his office in a cash truck.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link
Elizabeth Holmes' chutzpah is remarkable
I find her ability to snow people astounding. I'm obviously primed and biased because of what I know now about the company and her in particular but watching her speak it's just really hard to fathom how so many folks didn't immediately grasp that they were / are dealing with a total bullshitter. Watch her at 0:54 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiNFXcI9Rb8 This person is a bad liar. She's not good. What the hell is wrong with people?
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link
sorry https://trackchanges.postlight.com/podcast-20-rex-sorgatz-the-other-side-of-fate-2151da51f998#.ivs4e4udy
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 18:05 Bookmark
are there any other podcasts like this ppl might reccommend? stumbled across it randomly a while ago (i don't work in or have a specific interest in tech) but i really like it, always funny and perceptive
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link