Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

I always thought a wet bar was one where you just swim up and order a pina colada or something.

No, that's a swim-up bar.

A wet bar is real estate parlance; it simply means a household bar that has a sink. It makes zero sense when describing professional bars, because they are presumed to have running water.

The opposite, "dry bar," is p much never used because no one in real estate would ever advertise a household feature by saying what it didn't have.

http://www.drybar.co.uk/

In nyc I think "dry bar" is a type of hair salon or something. I remember a woman we know saying she wished the neighborhood had a dry bar and me being like "???" and then her explaining it.

Resurgence of "thanking you" is down to Still Game surely.

I saw "pre-madonna" instead of prima donna yesterday.

in reference to Jews?

Resurgence of "thanking you" is down to Still Game surely.

― suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Tuesday, July 19, 2016 2:16 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dunno, it's been common with folk of a certain age my whole life and im 32.

It comes across really passive-aggressive.

― ewar woowar (or something), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 17:10 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think the usage of "comes across" here isnt quite right

there's a lot of Scottish-English phrases were you use the gerund in ways you wouldn't in standard English e.g. "are you wanting to go out?" instead of "do you want to go out?"

I always thought a wet bar was one where you just swim up and order a pina colada or something.

― how's life, Tuesday, July 19, 20

same!

Yep. Same here. The present tense as gaeilge is a very evocative thing and in particular the usage of it in describing emotional state, akin to the formal use of the present participle to describe an ongoing action in english.

xp

It comes across really passive-aggressive.

― ewar woowar (or something), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 17:10 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think the usage of "comes across" here isnt quite right

― poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Tuesday, July 19, 2016 10:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Coming across?

See I don't mind tense usages like "are you wanting in?" or "I need paid" and yeah they can be quite evocative but "thanking you" nah.

I saw "pre-madonna" instead of prima donna yesterday.

Thats a whole nother thing that we must have gone over at some point, shit like "to all intensive purposes" and "I would of done that". Urghh.

Let's nip that stuff in the butt

I've only heard "Thanking U" on ILX, where I've always thought it was inspired by Bimble???

"Supper Club" – this became big among douchebag restaraunts here like 6-7 years ago, and I often associate it with "wet bar" re: douchey places that try to distinguish themselves through meaningless titles (cf anything that isn't a bar that calls itself a bar).

"...if that makes sense"

Hate it because what the person is usually trying to express is pretty simple, and by asking if that makes sense, they're revealing how little they think I'm able to comprehend. Especially annoying when it's part of some basic state of being a human, ie, "When I visited my parents, I had fun, but didn't have fun, if that makes any sense." Yeah, duh, it can be awkward visiting your parents, for the same variety of reasons it's been awkward visiting parents since the dawn of visiting parents.

Touchy

ime when people say "if that makes sense" it's due to a fear that they are incomprehensible and less that the listener is a rube (although i don't disagree that it's unnecessary, if that makes sense)

I'm flabbergasted no one's mentioned this ITT: "What part of ___ don't you understand?"

TBF, I generally only hear it in TV or movies but it's become such lazy "talk to the hand!" shorthand that I cringe every single time I hear it.

yeah, I hear it so much, I kind of suspect it must me getting annoyed more than people are being annoying. If that makes sense. Which it better!!!!

A while back when the "____ For Dummies" books were becoming popular, I had the idea for a knock-off series called "What Part of ___ Don't You Understand?!"

The tone of the series should be one of extreme irritation at having to explain such simple concepts to someone as thick as the reader.

My series is called: "I'm Not Going to Enact the Labor of Explaining _______ to You"

Dear reader,

Oh my god, are you serious? You seriously don't know about _____. Are you able to make it to the bathroom without soiling yourself? Really? That's surprising.

I support all of these series, but only if the ____ is always MS-DOS.

Probably been on this thread somewhere but I really hate the British news obsession with the word "snub".

DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename" :(

Probably been on this thread somewhere but I really hate the British news obsession with the word "snub".

my wife has 2 friends who consistently misuse the word 'snob' to mean 'snub', and it makes me cross

when they do this, imagine they are using the word 'snob' to mean 'snog'. it may improve your mood.

The blogsite word of the moment seems to be "weaponize"

really really tired of "dumpster fire"

fuck the phrase "garbage person"

"_______ much?"

― just1n3, Monday, January 26, 2015 2:28 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

corollary to this is replacing much with ", anyone?"

really really tired of "dumpster fire"

― joygoat, Monday, 25 July 2016 01:37 (1 hour ago) Permalink

yeah this is big in clickbait, and phrases that become big in clickbait are usually terrible

This Twitter perfectly explains what dogs would have been like in school
The hero of 'The Big Short' perfectly explained why you shouldn't try to be the next Warren Buffett
Joseph Brodsky Explains Perfectly How to Deal With Critics and Detractors in Your Life

Let me make up my own mind whether or not it's perfect! And paired with 'explains' like you definitely didn't understand in the first place...

to me "if that makes sense" is more like politeness in a self-deprecating manner. like "am i rambling here or do you understand what i'm trying to say? should i be more clear?"

it would be part of a polite work conversation to me. i am fairly sure, for example, after i make a comment on a piece of work i'm editing, i may end it with "does that make sense?" - again not patronising, more the opposite, "i'm offering you the chance to say you don't have a clue what i'm rambling on about, you disagree, or that i'm full of shit."

aka a comprehension check
it's definitely more polite than "did that makes sense to you?"

oops make not makes

Yeah, I don't see that one as hateworthy - lots of valid uses in the larger project of keeping an exchange of ideas or collaborative decision-making based in listening to other people.

The idiotic sounding "brexit" reminded me of the dumbest political language I've ever heard: when documents were called "sexed up" or "sexy" during Labour's run. News reporters repeated that shit for too long and I bet they still get cringe flashbacks thinking about it.

afaict "if that makes sense" is also a way of asking "are you still listening to me?"
i don't think it is intended to reflect on the listener's ability to comprehend as much as the speaker's desire to be heard/understood

Whilst I use it myself on occasion and concede its benefits to the cause of introverts everywhere being made to explain things (perfectly), I've definitely known people to abuse "if that makes sense" in like a coy over-estimation of their own depth. Like "I'm just a naturally perceptive person! I can really help people to understand their own minds, if that makes sense" or "I think when you get to my age your issues will just seem like youthful drama, if that makes sense".

I use it in work situations where I really don't know whether people are hearing me or not.

I often manage collaborative projects that depend both on group consensus and on contributions from a lot of different people - people who are very busy and who very much do not work for me.

So (as I did this morning) I find myself saying/writing something like: "Last week, the consensus was that Yasuko and Jose would meet separately to strategize. I'll take that content and combine it with what Susan and Rajiv wrote earlier, then send out the revised draft to everyone for comment. Does that make sense?"

Perhaps it's passive/aggressive or whatever but: organizationally speaking I can't order these people around, but I am absolutely dependent on their expertise for the content we are jointly assembling. So I float a game plan with an open-ended question, allowing people to chime in if I'm way off base.

If they don't object, then I move forward as I indicated. Should someone challenge my judgment later on, I always have the excuse handy of "I gave you an opportunity to comment or raise objections, and you didn't."

"Clunge"

"woke"

I ask "does that make sense" a lot in training mostly because some of my colleagues use things like "are you following?" or "do you understand" as it can make someone feel singled out or like you're calling them stupid. also because prefer the former because it frames it more like "did I explain it to you well enough" because maybe I didn't and if not then I want to try explaining another way.

I also use "did that answer your question" as a courtesy.

one of my co-facilitators basically made this poor woman feel like an idiot a few weeks ago by just kinda badgering her with questions like "what isn't clear to you, this plan is not really that different than other plans".

*and it can , not "as it can"

"Morphed"

in 2016!!! wtf