no that's le pew lasers
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 18:13 (eight years ago)
βThe question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.β β Ayn Rand.
― goole, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 18:15 (eight years ago)
le Pew/Rand slash, it's gotta be out there
― you can't drowned a duck (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 18:16 (eight years ago)
iirc Rand's main enemies were the gradual introduction of amphetamine criminalization and her romantic partners discovering "polygamy for me, none for you" was not optimal
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 18:19 (eight years ago)
you can argue about whether or not they're possible in the short-term (the smart money seems to be that they are), but i don't understand rooting against the entire idea.
I donβt think anybody is βrooting against the entire idea.β Weβre skeptical that weβll see anything resembling a self-driving car in the short-term.
And smart money? Weβre talking about Tesla who licenses their extremely limited technology (and is being sued by the licensee for improper use) and the bro who cracked the original iPhone. Nobody else is shipping anything.
― Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 18:38 (eight years ago)
in that version, the automobiles are all synced up and communicate with each other; one may errantly get freaked out by a low-flying bird swooping across a highway and slow down, but the only negative is that the closest car slows down and the cars behind it automatically slow down in response.
I love you. But I think youβre over-estimating our ability to engineer.
― Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 18:40 (eight years ago)
still kind of convinced that apple has seen how lucrative owning the patents or critical parts of a supply chain can be when it comes to bringing products to market and they don't want to build cars -- they just want to be the supplier of components and technologies that everyone has to use to stay competitive
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 19:04 (eight years ago)
Apple abandoned a self-driving car, they didnβt abandon their automotive work altogether.
― Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:30 (eight years ago)
the press claimed they were working on a full car, then claimed they abandoned said project
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:49 (eight years ago)
like idk if you were building all that shit you'd have a test bed that you could bring to market, but it doesn't mean you're making the finished product
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:50 (eight years ago)
my main question w/r/t auto driving cars (which i never plan to own because i am a control freak) -- no more need for liability insurance, if you're not the driver? who's going to be responsible? the auto manufacturers?
also, if a self-driving car still needs constant attention from the passenger, what's the fucking point? a self driving car is worthless unless you can get in it drunk and get home safe, or fall asleep and be assured you're not going to wake up plowing into a ditch.
― ian, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:52 (eight years ago)
who knows?
and no true self-driving car exists -- I commented earlier, that's the quandary right now where companies have put a lot of work into marketing things as safety features and decided not to bring certain features to market because the technology does not exist to create a car that can safely drive itself and by putting in certain features, it gives the impression you don't need to pay attention
a car that drives itself is a legal nightmare in the current licensing/regulation/insurance landscape and nearly as much work will have to be done in those areas as in self-driving tech
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:59 (eight years ago)
tbh I expect regulation to start leaning heavily on the way tesla markets shit due to the fact dumbasses are watching harry potter instead of driving
I mean, that doesn't stop someone I know from hacking the nav unit to play video while he's driving and I fully expected for a few years to hear he was found unconscious off the side of the interstate while dave matthews live at the gorge was still playing on the screen and blasting through the speakers
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 22:02 (eight years ago)
Unexpected blowback effects on the way...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/01/22/how-driverless-cars-could-kill-the-speeding-ticket-and-rob-your-city/
Take the nation's capital, which operates the most speeding and red-light cameras of any city in the country. In 2014, the District issued an average of 773 tickets a day from its speeding cameras alone β adding up to roughly $37.5 million worth of fines, according to the latest figures from AAA Mid-Atlantic. Since 2007, speed cameras have been a cash cow for the city's police, resulting in nearly $357 million in revenue, AAA said.Last year the city pulled in less money from parking tickets, partly due to new, smartphone-compatible parking meters that allow drivers to keep track of their status online. And driverless cars will only accelerate that trend, said John Townsend, a spokesman for AAA Mid-Atlantic."If you have one of these vehicles, your propensity for getting a speeding ticket or red-light camera ticket will be greatly diminished," said Townsend. "It'll be another step in the long progression of technology and how it is changing the outcome in the number of people who get tickets."Washington isn't the only city that reaps financial rewards from ticketing drivers. Chicago is looking at more than $1 billion alone in outstanding parking tickets, speeding tickets and red-light violations. New York drivers owe the mayor some $756 million, while the city of Los Angeles is owed $285 million, according to a Freedom of Information Act request by the local news site DNAinfo.The scale of the problem balloons in some smaller municipalities. That's because these jurisdictions may lack other meaningful sources of revenue. The town of Mountain View, Colo., made up 53 percent of its budget with tickets in 2013. Mountain View is a bit of an outlier β tickets account for less than 4 percent of the budget in many other Colorado towns β but it's hardly unique in its approach to budgeting. In Waldo, Fla., (population 1,015) tickets written by its seven police officers are said to account for half of the town's revenue and nearly two-thirds of the police department's budget.James Tignanelli is president of the Police Officers' Association of Michigan. He says police officers in many jurisdictions are being ordered to write tickets, sometimes despite their vocal objections."We're the only revenue producers in town, once you get past the water department," said Tignanelli. "That's how it is here, anyway."Driverless cars hold some important potential cost-savings for cities, too. Fewer accidents means cities can spend less responding to incidents. And police officers normally detailed to guide traffic or patrol for speeders could productively be deployed elsewhere. Of course, added Tignanelli, if driverless cars seriously start depriving city coffers of ticket revenue, it will likely prompt top officials to pressure police into whipping up new fees and fines.
Last year the city pulled in less money from parking tickets, partly due to new, smartphone-compatible parking meters that allow drivers to keep track of their status online. And driverless cars will only accelerate that trend, said John Townsend, a spokesman for AAA Mid-Atlantic.
"If you have one of these vehicles, your propensity for getting a speeding ticket or red-light camera ticket will be greatly diminished," said Townsend. "It'll be another step in the long progression of technology and how it is changing the outcome in the number of people who get tickets."
Washington isn't the only city that reaps financial rewards from ticketing drivers. Chicago is looking at more than $1 billion alone in outstanding parking tickets, speeding tickets and red-light violations. New York drivers owe the mayor some $756 million, while the city of Los Angeles is owed $285 million, according to a Freedom of Information Act request by the local news site DNAinfo.
The scale of the problem balloons in some smaller municipalities. That's because these jurisdictions may lack other meaningful sources of revenue. The town of Mountain View, Colo., made up 53 percent of its budget with tickets in 2013. Mountain View is a bit of an outlier β tickets account for less than 4 percent of the budget in many other Colorado towns β but it's hardly unique in its approach to budgeting. In Waldo, Fla., (population 1,015) tickets written by its seven police officers are said to account for half of the town's revenue and nearly two-thirds of the police department's budget.
James Tignanelli is president of the Police Officers' Association of Michigan. He says police officers in many jurisdictions are being ordered to write tickets, sometimes despite their vocal objections.
"We're the only revenue producers in town, once you get past the water department," said Tignanelli. "That's how it is here, anyway."
Driverless cars hold some important potential cost-savings for cities, too. Fewer accidents means cities can spend less responding to incidents. And police officers normally detailed to guide traffic or patrol for speeders could productively be deployed elsewhere. Of course, added Tignanelli, if driverless cars seriously start depriving city coffers of ticket revenue, it will likely prompt top officials to pressure police into whipping up new fees and fines.
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 25 September 2016 22:04 (eight years ago)
another good reason to legalize weed imo; gonna need revenue streams from somewhere!
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Sunday, 25 September 2016 22:30 (eight years ago)
If you have some CNN experience and youβre looking for an internship, the GOOG research group my lab collaborates with is looking.
Itβd likely turn into a full-time position.
DM me on Twitter (or whatever).
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 26 September 2016 19:24 (eight years ago)
(I think the location is Cambridge, Mountain View, or New York. But Iβm not 100%.)
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 26 September 2016 19:25 (eight years ago)
http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/26/13055938/ai-pop-song-daddys-car-sony
― schwantz, Monday, 26 September 2016 19:50 (eight years ago)
I can't see that story without thinking of Jamie Liddell's song "Daddy's Car" which... lol
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh π), Monday, 26 September 2016 20:58 (eight years ago)
please make a recording of an AI singing the Lidell one
etaeoe what is your twitter?
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Monday, 26 September 2016 21:16 (eight years ago)
0x00B1. :)
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 11:15 (eight years ago)
oh
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjM1MzczMDgwOV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDM4NjM2OQ@@._V1_UY1200_CR89,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 13:08 (eight years ago)
i am in the expo hall at strata and i thought of this thread
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:06 (eight years ago)
https://twitter.com/fart/status/781180708953829376
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:14 (eight years ago)
http://www.theverge.com/a/luka-artificial-intelligence-memorial-roman-mazurenko-bot
I'm not here to judge but this seems ghoulish
― Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Friday, 7 October 2016 15:21 (eight years ago)
yyyyeah i will bet we'll be seeing a lot more of that in the all too near future.
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 06:50 (eight years ago)
https://electrek.co/2016/10/28/george-hotz-cancels-his-tesla-autopilot-like-comma-one-after-request-from-nhtsa/
LOL
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 28 October 2016 16:52 (eight years ago)
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/donald-trump-will-win-the-election-and-is-more-popular-than-obama-in-2008-ai-system-finds.html
― Evan, Friday, 28 October 2016 17:02 (eight years ago)
https://deepmind.com/blog/deepmind-and-blizzard-release-starcraft-ii-ai-research-environment/
http://kotaku.com/blizzard-wants-to-know-if-googles-deepmind-ai-can-conqu-1788615284
It may surprise some, but despite being able to perform more actions per minute than a human player, the bots still have sub-par micro-management. Bots have faster individual unit control which allows them to use hit-and-run techniques [dealing damage then moving out of harmβs way], but deciding where/when/how to attack/retreat is still a problem.
"It may surprise some"
CHECK YOUR APM PRIVILEGE FAST PEOPLEA BOT KNOWS YOUR NAME
― ELECTION (no comey I) (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 03:16 (eight years ago)
i predict that deepmind will be able to defeat me in a best of 3 series of Starcraft II matches by the end of the calendar year
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 03:22 (eight years ago)
perhaps even by later today
can't wait for the first bot to accuse humans of "hacks"
― mh π, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 15:20 (eight years ago)
https://quickdraw.withgoogle.com/
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 19:22 (eight years ago)
I am a horrible artist, especially with a mouse, and I feel like I'm untraining this neural net
― mh π, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 19:53 (eight years ago)
i would guess that would probably be more helpful for its training, as compared to someone who was super lifelike
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 20:09 (eight years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/GSxUT7Y.png
― Wes Brodicus, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 20:19 (eight years ago)
ok it asked me to draw a circle and I just drew a square. take that!
― mh π, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 20:28 (eight years ago)
log_42Nf599fT3user/human "mh" [ID 32a2Y05P43] classified as "enemy"
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 20:34 (eight years ago)
Tempted to start doing nothing but speed dobbers for all my drawings. EVERYTHING'S A PENIS.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 20:40 (eight years ago)
imagine a world where we communicate with nothing but penis drawings but somehow the computers know exactly what we're talking about
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 20:41 (eight years ago)
the lost verses of lennon
it asked me to draw a dresser and then a bottlecap. Among the multiple guesses it made (all wrong), "phone" showed up for both drawings.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 16 November 2016 21:39 (eight years ago)
i try to work in a dick and still have it recognize the drawing
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Wednesday, 16 November 2016 22:48 (eight years ago)
whoops, it turns out there was more to it than the drawing thing. here are the others:
https://aiexperiments.withgoogle.com/
the drum machine one is fun, although less obviously AI
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 November 2016 05:01 (eight years ago)
There was a documentary on the current state of AI that tied in with the start of UK Channel 4's Humans. So about a month ago.Not sure how accurate or exactly up to date a tv show tie in would be. But it was interesting.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 17 November 2016 07:12 (eight years ago)
I was just about to come here and post about that. Thought the documentary was fascinating. Really brilliant and actually scarier than the show itself.
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 17 November 2016 11:42 (eight years ago)
jfc https://arxiv.org/abs/1611.04135
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Thursday, 17 November 2016 23:48 (eight years ago)
let's hope that AI still has some way to go on that one, fuck
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 November 2016 23:59 (eight years ago)
can't wait for those sweet bluetooth le bertillon instruments to hit kickstarter
― sktsh, Friday, 18 November 2016 10:51 (eight years ago)