...looks like I should edit the thread title
http://tvline.com/2016/10/26/star-trek-discovery-bryan-fuller-showrunner-stepping-down/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 22:55 (eight years ago)
Oh great another Kurtzman-Goldsman joint. Because they did such a great job with Fringe.
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:42 (eight years ago)
akiva goldsman's continued success is one of life's great mysteries
― yokohama fuckdolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:58 (eight years ago)
oh c'mon, s2-4ish of Fringe were pretty good
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 27 October 2016 11:09 (eight years ago)
this is weird to me. why would fuller walk away from this because he 'doesn't have time'? clearly something must have been going wrong.
― akm, Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:15 (eight years ago)
I hear he wants to spend more time with his family.
― Wikipedia Brown and the Case of the Incomplete Filmography (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:27 (eight years ago)
season 3 of fringe was pretty good. then kurtzman & orci demanded a dumb cliffhanger and the show never recovered.
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:30 (eight years ago)
Trek has always had a mix of inspired weirdos and hacks, I feel like it benefits from that.
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:33 (eight years ago)
Fuller's working on at least two other tv series, including American Gods. If the Paramount people kept meddling and were an irritating presence, it'd be a good reason to bail.
― mh š, Thursday, 27 October 2016 14:00 (eight years ago)
He's still writing/plotting at least
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 October 2016 14:39 (eight years ago)
http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/14/13962170/star-trek-discovery-lead-walking-dead
Sonequa Martin-Green will play the lead (the XO of Discovery).
Should we change this thread title?
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:08 (eight years ago)
I'm not going to believe this show is happening until there's an actual pilot date.
― Bianca Smell BO (Leee), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:32 (eight years ago)
Should we change this thread title?to:Sasha Deathwatch
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:24 (eight years ago)
It's funny how much she looks like a younger Angela Bassett who had been tipped to be in the series.
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:27 (eight years ago)
wasn't there a rumor they were doing an anthology series with a different timeframe/cast each season? hmm.
― mh š, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:48 (eight years ago)
Well this is still taking forever. I will however happily back this:
https://tvline.com/2017/03/31/star-trek-discovery-rainn-wilson-harry-mudd-cbs-all-access/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:52 (eight years ago)
lol I watched the original Mudd ep the other night w my daughter and the entire time I was distracted by the highly visible shaving line all around Carmel's neck.
― Īį½ĻιĻ, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:56 (eight years ago)
Fucking hell it's tomorrow
I have concerns but I really *want* it to be good
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 23 September 2017 17:43 (seven years ago)
I guess I hadn't been paying attention but, uh, you have to pay for some CBS streaming service to watch this beyond the first episode? Really? I hope everyone enjoys the first ST series to last exactly one season.
― SeƱor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:02 (seven years ago)
It's on Netflix in the UK and a bunch of other countries
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:22 (seven years ago)
A few reviews have slipped through the embargo and been decent
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:23 (seven years ago)
This should be worth a flyer just for more Michelle Yeoh.
― Insane Clown Fosse (Leee), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:27 (seven years ago)
I'm sorry, I misunderstood: CBS is only airing the first half of the two hour pilot on actual TV. Fun idea.
― SeƱor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:51 (seven years ago)
If they streamed it only on the CBS app but allowed digital purchases on amazon, itunes, etc. it'd make more sense. but, afaik, they are making it only available on the CBS app
so irritating, I'd shell out for the entire season purchase even if it trickles out a week at a time as per usual
― mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:48 (seven years ago)
i'll probably wait until next year and stream the whole season then. or find "other ways" that will appear soon, i'm sure
― Nhex, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:00 (seven years ago)
I just did the free CBS trial on my tv device, but I guess it doesn't air until tonight? boo
― mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:22 (seven years ago)
ā SeƱor Winces (Old Lunch)
yeah i mean i know game of thrones seems to do ok and all but i'm not sure why directly adopting a piracy-based business model is cbs's schtick here
anyway when the streaming service fails they'll probably just toss it to another streaming service. doesn't necessarily doom the show.
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:48 (seven years ago)
Phase II - proposed for Paramount Television Service, a fourth US networkVoyager (1995-2001), Enterprise (2001-2005) - designed to support UPN (1995-2006)
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:56 (seven years ago)
nice ship -- too bad they haven't invented probes yet and have to send their first officer into lethal radiation
― mookieproof, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:00 (seven years ago)
this was fun but fuck CBS for making me watch a thousand NAVY SEALS promos and then asking for money to keep watching
― El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:15 (seven years ago)
points for having the main plot thread be about a black woman trying to tell everybody "no really, they're going to kill all of us" and being shouted down
― El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:17 (seven years ago)
cbs has consistently been tightassed with digital access to its programming since the tv-web boom, it's annoying
― j., Monday, 25 September 2017 03:20 (seven years ago)
Enjoying this!
First question: how can I get one of those dope uniforms
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 04:42 (seven years ago)
We signed up for free trial - canceled after 2nd ep & got a month free so 4 more episodes
But seriously $6 for 1 original show and commercials is a joke. $10 if you want commercial free? Eat a dick
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 05:20 (seven years ago)
A few minutes in, it looks right at least. The ship and cinematography look like a Star Trek show (vs. the new movies).
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 September 2017 05:43 (seven years ago)
New Klingons - ehhhhhhhh. The makeup is so heavy their faces barely move.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 September 2017 06:02 (seven years ago)
Huh.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 September 2017 06:59 (seven years ago)
The theme manages to have twelve different sections, goes a bit Mahler for some reason, not very catchy
Although I speak as someone who liked Faith of the Heart so ignore me
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 25 September 2017 07:44 (seven years ago)
Only seen the first hour - I feel like I can semi-credibly guess which ideas/dialogue came from Fuller and what came from Kurtzman/Goldsman. Not bad but the character-backstory shit is hacky and painful.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 25 September 2017 14:13 (seven years ago)
Thought it was ok. Will keep watching. But yeah, the theme tune is a mess
― groovypanda, Monday, 25 September 2017 14:17 (seven years ago)
I liked the show!
At the beginning I was thinking "hmm, is this Star Trek enough?"
But, thinking back, the best shows start out with their own scope and integrate. Enterprise was slavishly devoted to tying into continuity while not fleshing out much history. More than anything I got the impression that someone (Fuller? looked like he was the writer w/Ortzman) had an understanding of what TNG and DS9 did well.
The previews make it look like it's going to be scientific discovery (hah!) in a time of war. Which is a clearer mission statement than we've gotten recently.
― mh, Monday, 25 September 2017 14:20 (seven years ago)
Yeah did enjoy that and thought there was going to be more, but I guess CBS is running it as a weekly show and selling it on elsewhere.
― Stevolende, Monday, 25 September 2017 14:30 (seven years ago)
Gotta free up airtime for those Chuck Lorre productions and NCIS: Anchorage.
― Gewgaws for Meemaw (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 September 2017 14:38 (seven years ago)
I know it's a Toronto production, so I hate to say this but most of the sets looked pretty lacklustre. Felt like they were adding the occasional lens flares out of sheer desperation to spice it up. And yeahhh, the guys playing Klingons can't even act in all that get up. Hopefully they will sort it out as it goes along.
― Manitobiloba (Kim), Monday, 25 September 2017 15:35 (seven years ago)
I'm guessing the backgrounds in the Klingon ship were put there in post-production, because they were pretty ornate?
― mh, Monday, 25 September 2017 15:44 (seven years ago)
I thought the story was engaging & the character development pretty solid for a 2-ep premiere. I am so used to expecting exposition dumps for new shows but this played out like a mini movie, it was kinda thrilling tbh
I think the Michael character has been set up with good layers & iām really interested to follow her journey now
Doug Jones was great & I loved Michelle Yeoh
Klingon makeup looks more like the movie Romulans but dont they always seem to screw around with their look iirc?
Mr Veg had some gripes about how it doesnāt look like itās taking place before the original series but i wasnt too bothered by that myself
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:41 (seven years ago)
I was wondering if teh original Klingons were supposed to look like evil humans intentionally. Seem to be a bit Hispanic pirate update in the tv series or something don't they? Is that why they were made to look less human.
― Stevolende, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:45 (seven years ago)
Latest look has shades of Tudor era doublet and hose and tunic look don't it?
― Stevolende, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:46 (seven years ago)
klingons lose a bit of menace when they sound like they're trying to talk through a retainer.https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/1/1f/Shelley.pngtoday ish a good day to die, you turdsh!
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:56 (seven years ago)
lol
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:59 (seven years ago)
whatthe shit am i watching rn
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 January 2025 04:49 (five months ago)
20 minutes in and iām already angry & bored
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 January 2025 04:51 (five months ago)
iāve seen ppl compare it to the first Suicide Squad but to me it has the exact same stink that the Borderlands movie had. All this unearned āsassā and so much fuckin whizzbangery effects & filters & in service of absolutely fucking nothing because the no one will stop explaining themselves & what they do long enough to HAVE a plot fucking hate this kind of lazy bullshit it makes me so mad
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 January 2025 05:04 (five months ago)
and Ireland should declare war on us for that accent yeeeeeeeiiiikes
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 January 2025 05:05 (five months ago)
Itās a melange of better but still shit movies.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 25 January 2025 05:36 (five months ago)
a cinematic hotdog
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 January 2025 05:38 (five months ago)
Ireland should declare war on us for that accent yeeeeeeeiiiikes
hard to imagine it's worse than scotland's suffered for 60 years now
― mookieproof, Saturday, 25 January 2025 06:29 (five months ago)
Oh it is. Jar Jar-esque is not an exaggeration.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 25 January 2025 07:10 (five months ago)
and then a steaming turd of a bad Southern accent to finish it off, chefās kiss no notes
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 January 2025 07:21 (five months ago)
I'm never going to watch it but I love this discussion, lol
― jmm, Saturday, 25 January 2025 12:03 (five months ago)
I appreciate the fact that they delivered us an incredibly undercooked series in 95 minutes instead of stretching it into 6 - 8 episodes. Do I need 2/3rds of an episode to delve into the mech manās body dysmorphia? No. Would some exposition have helped in spots in order to make me give a shit about some of the characters? Probably! Would I have watched a 6 - 8 episode version that was just as bad and spent my life doing that instead of something else? Likely.
― Ʉɯ ļøµ (°ā”°) (mh), Saturday, 25 January 2025 17:40 (five months ago)
lol yeah i guess that is the upside to all this
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 January 2025 18:02 (five months ago)
Wow - noped out after 16 minutes.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 25 January 2025 22:52 (five months ago)
This is clearly a āthe only winning move is not to playā situation so I thank everyone for their service.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 January 2025 23:19 (five months ago)
I decided to watch Balance of Power for the first time instead. Itās pretty good!
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 25 January 2025 23:22 (five months ago)
NED GODDAMMIT YOU WATCH THIS
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 January 2025 23:49 (five months ago)
I'm at least pleased I didnt pay a cent for this because woof.
I think I'll rewatch some more DS9 today to wash off the ick.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 26 January 2025 00:38 (five months ago)
xpost Haha you canāt make me
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 January 2025 00:45 (five months ago)
>:( first to watch everything but this yeah i see how you are COWARD RAGGETT
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 26 January 2025 01:24 (five months ago)
just checking this thread after seeing the chaotic trailer and man if a fun movie loses VegGrrl it has truly lost the war. such a forgiving movie fan!
oh well i will keep watching old Chopped episodes. or maybe season two of the night agent...
― scott seward, Sunday, 26 January 2025 01:46 (five months ago)
xpost Iām currently watching this terrible Godfrey Ho-adjacent film and I have no doubt itās eight million times more entertaining than what you all suffered through https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxQ_IGiXxBo-
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 January 2025 02:34 (five months ago)
ok that was really bad and annoying
― mookieproof, Sunday, 26 January 2025 04:06 (five months ago)
So now we have a new answer for "what is the worst Star Trek movie ever?" I'm bummed because whatever we were collectively imagining as "Michelle Yeoh leads Star Fleet's CIA" is just so embarrassingly shitty. This is what Marvel folks put up with now? Jesus christ...
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 26 January 2025 10:47 (five months ago)
I've had very little desire to watch this based on the trailer. The fact that it's directed by the constantly-spinning-camera guy from Discovery doesn't help either. And I watched through all the TOS movies in the past two weeks, which puts me in even less of a mood for NuTrek...this thread seals the deal.
― Duane Barry, Sunday, 26 January 2025 13:54 (five months ago)
a) kacey rohl deserved betterb) her character, rachel garrett, who would ultimately captain the enterprise-c, deserved exponentially better than 'learning to appreciate chaos'c) the dudes from 'let that be your last battlefield' were supposed to be both extremely powerful and also the last of their kind; why would you make one of them a maƮtre d'?d) ffs
― mookieproof, Monday, 27 January 2025 06:46 (five months ago)
This shit made Star Trek V look like Wrath of Khan.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 27 January 2025 07:10 (five months ago)
Is it worth watching this at all?
― groovypanda, Monday, 27 January 2025 07:38 (five months ago)
Oh ugh the black/white guy. Was it really neccesary that he had to be like an extra from Drag Race or something?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 27 January 2025 10:24 (five months ago)
I actually enjoyed how aggressively garbage this was -- there's a weirdly pro-military / anti-utopian segment of the trek fanbase that really loves the idea that the federation can't cope without a morally bankrupt black-ops service, and I'd argue this is truly the ultimate expression of that line of thinking.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 27 January 2025 22:38 (five months ago)
And look, I'd be perfectly OK with that kind of storyline! They did that for a whole season of Babylon 5, as an example (Earth prez corrupt, sets up his own Orwellian propaganda arm, has blackshirts etc etc). They could have made a GREAT film about S31's methodology, problematic actions, struggles with/against the Federation.
but noooooooooooooo we had to have a ragtag team of fucking Guardians of the Galaxy twats punching people for 90 minutes.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 28 January 2025 00:29 (five months ago)
The cool wars crime committing faction secretly propping up your woke commie utopia feels like a real War on Terror throwback.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 28 January 2025 00:41 (five months ago)
Some folks look at DS9 and took all the wrong lessons from it (Section 31, Not losing a leg).
Thanks all for your service, I know not to bother with this. I've had enough of hate watching Trek.
― Baroque Obama (Leee), Tuesday, 28 January 2025 15:15 (five months ago)
And miss out on off-brand-borg-implanted jamie lee curtis as perhaps not the spymaster realpolitrekkies wanted, but definitely the one they deserved?
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 28 January 2025 19:42 (five months ago)
Rewatching this from the start again because my other half is a masochist or something, apaz.
Best lol so far, when Vance is trying to negotiate an armistice with the Emerald Chain but Osyrra is jerking him about and eating fruit and stalling, and he breezily says "that's made from our shit, you know".
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 2 July 2025 07:31 (two weeks ago)