I wonder how much a single boxset of the ENTIRE series would be if it existed and whether or not I would purchase it anyway. Probably definitely would.
― Evan, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:05 (seven years ago) link
The only formally released DVDs I've missed out on (Shout Factory rereleases aside) are Godzilla vs Megalon and the Radar Men From the Moon bonus disc from a few years back. I am rather thankful to have the rest -- just to be sure.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link
807 – Terror from the Year 5000
This has one of my favorite lines ever, which nobody else ever remembers: "Hey, it's one of those 'Fly, monkeys, fly!' monkeys!"
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link
I don't have the space for them all right now, so I just rely on youtube. I know I'm certainly missing out on all the bonus content though...
― Evan, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link
Invasion USA really is a must-see as a glimpse into the period. A Date With Your Family too, and that one's all time, short-wise. High School Big Shot is dire iirc.
― dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 05:37 (seven years ago) link
Very dire but there's a weird/tragic backstory to it -- the lead guy, Tom Pittman, was apparently this up-and-comer in Hollywood (not that his performance really suggests it; can't exactly call him the new James Dean). But then:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Pittman
On October 31, 1958, Pittman was driving home after a Halloween party when he ran his Porsche Spyder off the road at a sharp curve in the Hollywood Hills. After he failed to return home, his father filed a missing persons report. On November 19, Los Angeles police officer, Roy Kerton, retraced the roads Pittman's father said his son liked to drive and found the wreckage at the bottom of a 150-foot ravine. Pittman's car had crashed through the guard rail, landed at the bottom of the ravine where it remained out of sight.
The film itself was released after he was dead.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 05:46 (seven years ago) link
This contemporary story offers more -- including inevitable Dean comparisons:
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=19581120&id=2uZLAAAAIBAJ&sjid=-4sDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7140,3871947
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 05:47 (seven years ago) link
Interesting bit here in a review of Sally Kellerman's autobio from a couple of years back:
https://classictvhistory.wordpress.com/tag/tom-pittman/
Television actors Robert Sampson and Luana Anders are major characters in the early chapters, as is Tom Pittman, a promising leading man who did a ton of TV guest shots in the year or two before his body was found at the bottom of a Hollywood canyon in 1958. Kellerman’s account of Pittman’s death, and of her role and that of small-part actor Robert Bice (who played square-jawed cops in tons of TV episodes prior to his own early demise) in its aftermath, are so startling that I’m surprised a major publication hasn’t taken up the subject for further investigation.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 05:57 (seven years ago) link
http://www.tompittmanduo.com/bio.htm
― Evan, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:43 (seven years ago) link
Long may his identical twin thrive.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link
Anyway, new interview with Joel and Jonah:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-st-mystery-science-theatre-3000-returns-20161123-story.html
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link
Interesting bit:
Hodgson: The thing that it really reminded me of, and I hadn't thought about this in so long, is how much work it is to be the host on “MST3K.” You're working with two inanimate objects, two robots. You have to do a lot of acting and emoting, not just for you, but for them too. It's a really big job when you think about all the props, and all the stuff that has to happen and Jonah did a really good job just getting in there. There's a lot of physicality to it.Ray: Our schedule was so tight that we just sprinted into doing the shoots. The show is so relaxed, but the actual process of doing it— my legs were getting sore from how many times I had to freak out because of the movie sign. One thing that was so great was when Joel would come on in between the movie segments. I remember he said, ”When you come onto screen, just blast onto the screen. Burst on like you're in a rock and roll performance." I was also learning how to work props, how to do sleight-of-hand magic on the spot.Hodgson: If you look at “MST3K,” especially on the “Satellite of Love” set, it's one shot, and we don't cut away. It's really like a live show... There's all these things that people don't know about when you have that gig. It's not easy. I guess I never really thought about it until I had to look at what Jonah had to do, and go through that with him again. I realized how many feelings I had about it that were kind of unresolved. Nobody knows how hard this is except for this guy and Mike.
Ray: Our schedule was so tight that we just sprinted into doing the shoots. The show is so relaxed, but the actual process of doing it— my legs were getting sore from how many times I had to freak out because of the movie sign. One thing that was so great was when Joel would come on in between the movie segments. I remember he said, ”When you come onto screen, just blast onto the screen. Burst on like you're in a rock and roll performance." I was also learning how to work props, how to do sleight-of-hand magic on the spot.
Hodgson: If you look at “MST3K,” especially on the “Satellite of Love” set, it's one shot, and we don't cut away. It's really like a live show... There's all these things that people don't know about when you have that gig. It's not easy. I guess I never really thought about it until I had to look at what Jonah had to do, and go through that with him again. I realized how many feelings I had about it that were kind of unresolved. Nobody knows how hard this is except for this guy and Mike.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link
I was actually just thinking about that yesterday when I was watching Cave Dwellers and Joel was doing that foley bit. He messes up some lines and they just keep going cause it's got so many props and is relatively long.
― Evan, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, in general the high number of fuckups contributes a lot to the show's charm, and the fact that they obviously didn't want to constantly reshoot 15-minute chunks of the movie meant that there's a great loose roughness to the riffing itself. Never feels painfully over-rehearsed.
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link
joel fucking up his lines was like 50% of his appeal
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 24 November 2016 00:29 (seven years ago) link
for sure!
― Evan, Thursday, 24 November 2016 03:11 (seven years ago) link
Okay the marathon is live:
https://youtu.be/JphKSOuaov0
First one: Pumaman!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link
Meantime the opening bit with Joel and Jonah was...hokey. Which I shouldn't be surprised by, but.
Kneel!
I told you my name is TONY
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link
Everything about this film is such a botch, it's amazing. And the lead guy, dear god. It almost is funnier/worse now after almost two decades of modern superhero movies.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link
Ah, Pod People. I will never tire of you.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link
Aw mannnnn sorry to be missing this, esp. Pod People, which at one point I thought I'd burned out on but has now aged perfectly into an old, familiar friend. Even the really minor riffs are gems: ''Ahhh, gimme that, I'll show you how to use a prop phone!'' ''What Trumpy's done is good!'' ''Meanwhile, in YET ANOTHER movie...'' etc.
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 November 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link
So many lines still make me laugh. It's easily one of the best from the more languorously paced years.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 20:02 (seven years ago) link
If you're not in the right mood, its slowness can totally defeat you... though things like the ''McCloud!'' gag start to really build around the dull emptiness of the film itself and become deeply deeply hilarious.
''... and after that, we'll be hearing from Bay Area artist Belmondo...''
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 November 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link
"and I will be the one to hold Larry Csonka down, kiss him so soft . . ."
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Thursday, 24 November 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
i never get tired of the larry csonka jokes in final sacrifice
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 November 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
i love how the henchmen all have slightly different black tank tops
and the hermit who sounds like Doctor Teeth
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 November 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link
My my my my Mitchell.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link
Okay so Manos has to be number one, any guesses on number two? I'm kinda stumped.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link
Gamera?
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link
f.s.v.o. Gamera
Good guess!
Anyway, Mitchell.
"Cross to fireplace."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56 (seven years ago) link
"I usually take mine with a Ding Dong in it but ok"
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link
(We've been having dinner and soon dessert here since around noonish so I'm only catching this as catch can but I do appreciate episodes where I can drop in any time and it's hilarious.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:12 (seven years ago) link
Mitchell!
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:17 (seven years ago) link
Ha, Space Mutiny makes so much sense at number two. Framing stuff is totally convoluted as a standalone but the movie itself and the number they do on it is top notch.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:41 (seven years ago) link
SANTA
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:41 (seven years ago) link
And of course Manos. I've got 'Debbie''s book on order and I can't wait to read it.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 November 2016 01:16 (seven years ago) link
Trace's Crow works a lot bluer, I am v fond of him
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 November 2016 01:22 (seven years ago) link
I think it was this thread that got me to REALLY love ''Big buttery moon up there... sidewalk kinda looks like ice cream if you squint at it.'' But it was my brother who got me to appreciate all the chase scene riffs (''Mitchell II: The Cloverleaf'') and, re: ''this is a police inevstigation!'': ''Oh, really? I thought it was just some slob wandering around my *house.*''
Underrated: the shitty marine conclusion to the film, especially ''Let's rip off the last scene from Key Largo, Mitchell!''
― walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Friday, 25 November 2016 05:29 (seven years ago) link
i love that whole section
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 November 2016 05:48 (seven years ago) link
ohhhhh they're chasing the BOAT
Counterpoint:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ZCZOW8eT0
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Friday, 25 November 2016 15:07 (seven years ago) link
3M!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 November 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link
What's great is that they also made a 3M joke in Pod People when it came to the "It stinks!" song.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 November 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link
Well, by gum, the bonus things for today Joel announced ARE indeed all that:
On Monday, I also promised that – since we didn't have any new episodes ready to show you on Turkey Day – I'd send a special treat on Friday to make it up to you.And you know, I know it's a treat some of you have been wanting for a long time – maybe even since we first ran this advertisement in The St. Paul Pioneer Press Dispatch on Turkey Day of 1988, when our very first episode, Invaders From the Deep, premiered on KTMA.So yeah, some of you already guessed it, but let's make it official:I'm happy to tell you that we finally found master tapes for two of the three "lost KTMA episodes" of MST3K: Invaders from the Deep, and Revenge of the Mysterons from Mars.I actually thought we had discovered copies of these episodes at one point during the Kickstarter last year, and I was really excited that I'd be able to finally share them with you… and then it turned out that we hadn't found them, and it was a real bummer. But then, earlier this year, a few final boxes turned up. And there they were: the very first episodes of MST3K ever made.So yeah: If your Kickstarter rewards include any of the "Classic MST3K Bonus Episodes", the two "lost episodes" are now waiting for you – a special "Happy Turkey Day" present from all of us at MST3K.
And you know, I know it's a treat some of you have been wanting for a long time – maybe even since we first ran this advertisement in The St. Paul Pioneer Press Dispatch on Turkey Day of 1988, when our very first episode, Invaders From the Deep, premiered on KTMA.
So yeah, some of you already guessed it, but let's make it official:
I'm happy to tell you that we finally found master tapes for two of the three "lost KTMA episodes" of MST3K: Invaders from the Deep, and Revenge of the Mysterons from Mars.
I actually thought we had discovered copies of these episodes at one point during the Kickstarter last year, and I was really excited that I'd be able to finally share them with you… and then it turned out that we hadn't found them, and it was a real bummer. But then, earlier this year, a few final boxes turned up. And there they were: the very first episodes of MST3K ever made.
So yeah: If your Kickstarter rewards include any of the "Classic MST3K Bonus Episodes", the two "lost episodes" are now waiting for you – a special "Happy Turkey Day" present from all of us at MST3K.
I didn't go this route, but presumably these things are going to circulate from here realllll quickly.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:12 (seven years ago) link
FWIW, this means that the final episode that has never circulated at all is the original riff on Star Force: Fugitive Alien II, which was the third KTMA episode overall. But presumably it's out there...
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:14 (seven years ago) link
Meantime, word from MST3Kinfo that Tony Zarindast -- the man who gave us <I>Werewolf</I> -- has passed:
http://www.mst3kinfo.com/?p=23507
His IMDB page is worth boggling at thanks to the English language titles alone. A one-man mini-Cannon:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0953494/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 December 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link
Whoa, they're showing a Season 1 ep on "CometTV", a standard-def broadcast channel. I've never actually seen one of these.
And can see why, this shit is pretty ropey, even for these guys.
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Monday, 2 January 2017 04:28 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I've tried, and the best I can really say is that it's a BIT tighter than KTMA MST. What's remarkable is how quickly it gels in Season 2 - still some tough eps in there, and a little bit samey between the three grim, ugly CCI "rebel" pictures and the four flat sci-fi snoozers from Lippert... but Catalina Caper is one of the first classic eps, and Kevin and Frank don't need any warming up at all. Ring of Terror and Godzilla vs. Megalon, too...
― mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Monday, 2 January 2017 05:44 (seven years ago) link