normalisation
we get it. you didnt want him to win.
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:25 (seven years ago) link
i quit sugar
― estela, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 22:31 (seven years ago) link
lmao darragh
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 22:40 (seven years ago) link
getting really sick of "pearl clutching" and "hand wringing."
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link
"coastal elite"
― marcos, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link
actually not really. more just "coastal elite" combined with "pearl clutching" and "hand wringing" and "soul searching"
man alive otmfm
― wins, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/rmkf/status/803561189355700224
i can see the reasons for why people are using the word but many others just caught it like a cold.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 17:35 (seven years ago) link
xp they have just become shortcuts to conveying that you are too cool for school. "OH ALL THESE PEOPLE PEARL CLUTCHING AND HAND WRINGING ABOUT THING I DON'T EVEN THINK IS A BIG DEAL"
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 17:37 (seven years ago) link
my problem with "normalization" is that he is going to be the president. It is virtually impossible not to normalize a president to some extent. You can live every single day of the next 4 (or god forbid 8) years acting like the world is now upside down.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link
Every word that migrates from the academy to the mainstream is basically intolerable.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 17:43 (seven years ago) link
'the academy'
before ppl stop using pearl clutching and hand wringing other ppl are going to have to stop doing those things
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link
nah every instance of it you encounter is basically
"this thing is bad""wow hysterical"
― wins, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 17:57 (seven years ago) link
now youre just pearlcl....... OH SHIT
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 17:57 (seven years ago) link
pearl-clutching also seems GENDERED. Here's why that's problematic.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link
I don't like the way a lot of Americans say "loser" as an insult. It sounds as if people are mocked for simply being unfortunate rather than being a waster or someone who never tries.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link
I'm wearing (and clutching) pearls right now, and that's okay.
― Gorvernment Stoodge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link
RAG, you might be referring to a particular subset of Americans there.
― Gorvernment Stoodge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link
The gendering of pearl-clutching is one of the most bothersome things about it! Used on women it's just straight up sexist, used on men it's classic gay-baiting, like "fussy" "frilly" "prissy" etc.
― mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link
quit strawclutching doc
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link
yeah exactly.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link
Awful looking cgi has been normalized.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link
strawcucking
(observation, not annoyance)
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/marmalize
― wins, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link
The revolution will not be martinized
― there is important candy to be crushed (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:59 (seven years ago) link
But emails!
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 14 January 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link
'Trump won because racism''The world is different now because technology'etc
^hate this formulationie: basically the omission of 'of' and the combination of smugness and laziness involved.
― the pinefox, Monday, 16 January 2017 11:57 (seven years ago) link
that's my single favourite formulation of the past few years
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 16 January 2017 12:08 (seven years ago) link
I have a friend who uses 'dumb', 'stupid' and 'retarded' all the time on Facebook. I realise he's using these words figuratively - 'people voted Trump because they're dumb'; 'Theresa May is retarded' etc, but it really winds me up and I kind of want to say something without coming off as precious or self-righteous
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 16 January 2017 12:21 (seven years ago) link
nah -- come off precious and self-righteous
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 January 2017 12:24 (seven years ago) link
"stupid" is not really in the same league as "retarded", nor is "dumb" to a lesser extent.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 16 January 2017 12:28 (seven years ago) link
alfred otm, 'retarded' especially is beyond the pale. i used to say it and regret it enormously.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 16 January 2017 12:29 (seven years ago) link
there's a point beyond which i think it's absolutely fine to tell even the people closest to you that they're using some fairly crap epithets and should stop.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 16 January 2017 12:30 (seven years ago) link
yeah, obvs 'retarded' just isn't acceptable any more. i think i used to say it too and this guy just never got out the habit. 'stupid' is fine but sometimes it's more about context. 'this idea is stupid' is fine, but he over-does it sometimes and interchanges the three words: '[person in the media] is dumb'; '[public demographic] are retarded' etc...
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 16 January 2017 12:36 (seven years ago) link
it also lacks flourish, far more fun to call someone a feckless tosswank
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 16 January 2017 12:38 (seven years ago) link
yeah and it's just this constant undermining of people in general. he revels in misanthropy so it's very much in character. might have a word next time though.
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 16 January 2017 13:15 (seven years ago) link
Seems like it's not the words he uses (which are lazy and unimaginative at best) but the dismissiveness of his message. Takes a pretty arrogant person to publicly dismiss xyz thing by simply declaring it "dumb" or "stupid"
Best of luck getting through to this miserable person!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 16 January 2017 15:34 (seven years ago) link
What is 'Shitposting'
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 January 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link
it's a metaphor
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 16 January 2017 19:53 (seven years ago) link
This needs a parallel thread that covers online usage exclusively. Why is "impact" as a verb such a problem, while "Spotify" as a verb is okay?
― clemenza, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 01:50 (seven years ago) link
The collected works of Morbius, basically
― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 01:57 (seven years ago) link
xp software lends itself naturally to verb conversion because it's something you use to do other things so "can you please use spotify to play vampire weekend" is more intelligible and brief as "can you please spotify vampire weekend." "can you use google to search for pictures of naked mole rats" "can you google naked mole rates." in general actually i think this thread is wrong bc the only criteria for whether a word is good is whether it's a. intelligible & b. terser. i understand there are aesthetic objections (tho aesthetically speaking brevity is the soul of etc) and also sometimes these things represent bad thinking but I can't think of good ideological reasons to oppose "impact" as a verb. "I am going to have an impact on this project," as "i am going to impact this project," maybe you don't like using impact to mean having a strong effect on something but once you accept that definition (I'm not dragging out my OES) who cares if it's a verb now?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 02:17 (seven years ago) link
oh we lost that battle years ago
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 02:19 (seven years ago) link
my theory: people didn't know whether to use "affect" or "effect" the same way you hear "John and myself went to a movie" (i.e. the speaker doesn't know whether to use subjective or objective case).
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 02:20 (seven years ago) link
if anything using it as a noun tends towards passive verbs and using it as a verb is instantly active = maybe that's the objection? it's a sneaky end-around strunk/white?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 02:21 (seven years ago) link
I have a bigger problem with "impactful."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 02:24 (seven years ago) link
I'm reading Huey Long by T. Harry Williams. It's a well-regarded book and all, but Williams keeps saying things like "Huey Long effected the state's policies...."
He also uses lowercase letters for parish names, as in "Union parish", "Orleans parish", "Jefferson parish", etc. It's annoying.
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 02:27 (seven years ago) link
English is very forgiving of shit like that. once my brother played the word "unrewaxed" during a scrabble game and I had to allow it, because of course it's a word, even if it was a word no one had ever used until the moment he laid it on the board.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 02:28 (seven years ago) link
There's also the fact that 'Spotify' seems to be a nominalized verb, albeit a made-up one. If you accept it as a proper name, the verb use seems inevitable.
― jmm, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 02:29 (seven years ago) link
the same way you hear "John and myself went to a movie" (i.e. the speaker doesn't know whether to use subjective or objective case).
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:20 (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this riles the living shit out of me. 'myself' is a reflexive pronoun with one clear purpose that doesn't include being jammed at the beginning of sentences.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 02:59 (seven years ago) link