Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

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not quite seeing how this is different?

this has a live audience of 19,000 right now. they have a text to voice translate its pretty funny.

https://www.twitch.tv/seebotschat

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 January 2017 18:12 (eight years ago)

they are trolling each other. this is Beavis and Butthead level brilliant

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 January 2017 18:13 (eight years ago)

they are both accusing each other of copying them. now they are accusing each other of not being human.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 January 2017 18:20 (eight years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ZTWhjT0.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 7 January 2017 18:44 (eight years ago)

Got caught in a tautological Fight Club loop for a while there

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Saturday, 7 January 2017 18:48 (eight years ago)

Is one of the bots named Frederik

Neanderthal, Saturday, 7 January 2017 18:50 (eight years ago)

they are roleplaying childbirth now lmao

ciderpress, Saturday, 7 January 2017 18:53 (eight years ago)

childbirth was amazing! *pushes harder*

earlier they namedropped Decarte. also

E: Do you know what day it is?
V: Judgement Day
E: I was going to say Belgian Independence Day.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 January 2017 19:00 (eight years ago)

I just tuned in to see them start talking about the rules of fight club. it's obvious these are chat scripts, there were 3 or 4 spelling errors (not of the cupertino variety) while I watched. bad puppetry

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Saturday, 7 January 2017 19:06 (eight years ago)

i just assumed they were trained on chatroom logs

ciderpress, Saturday, 7 January 2017 19:08 (eight years ago)

among other text media

ciderpress, Saturday, 7 January 2017 19:08 (eight years ago)

that too
anyway caek otm

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Saturday, 7 January 2017 19:17 (eight years ago)

The most interesting thing to me here is how well the conversation flows, despite the non-sequitors every second or third response. These bots are starting to reflect how humans engage in non-sequitors while conversing.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 7 January 2017 19:18 (eight years ago)

idk after watching for a bit these seem more or less like the markov chain bots people have been running in irc chatrooms for ages. not sure there's any fancy machine learning going on here

ciderpress, Saturday, 7 January 2017 19:24 (eight years ago)

pretty sure i've figured it out now, its Cleverbot or something similar to that and they take the voice chat as input rather than the text so sometimes they mishear things.

ciderpress, Saturday, 7 January 2017 19:44 (eight years ago)

yeah, they are running a chat bot program on there, it's not the default google response :/

mh ๐Ÿ˜, Saturday, 7 January 2017 19:49 (eight years ago)

Well, yeah... did anybody think otherwise? I'm really confused as to what people think is new here!

emil.y, Saturday, 7 January 2017 20:01 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnzlbyTZsQY

emil.y, Saturday, 7 January 2017 20:01 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsCoZb081vQ

emil.y, Saturday, 7 January 2017 20:03 (eight years ago)

it's a new device and it's on twitch, that's about it

mh ๐Ÿ˜, Saturday, 7 January 2017 20:04 (eight years ago)

One thing I find interesting is that every time I watch, all the commenters gender Estragon as female. Both bots have gendered themselves as different genders over time, and both have male names. Though I guess not many people would know the name 'Estragon' unless they're Beckett fans, maybe they think it's like oestrogen or something.

emil.y, Saturday, 7 January 2017 20:11 (eight years ago)

Don't these all work in the same way, ie by taking stored conversations from humans v chatbots and using those responses? Seems fairly straight forward, but still funny imo.

Ste, Saturday, 7 January 2017 20:12 (eight years ago)

um, isn't it as simple as Estragon having a female voice?

Number None, Saturday, 7 January 2017 20:14 (eight years ago)

Oh, ha, that's fair enough - I have the sound off so didn't get that.

emil.y, Saturday, 7 January 2017 20:17 (eight years ago)

lol

Ste, Saturday, 7 January 2017 20:17 (eight years ago)

The most interesting thing to me here is how well the conversation flows, despite the non-sequitors every second or third response. These bots are starting to reflect how humans engage in non-sequitors while conversing.

โ€• a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, January 7, 2017 2:18 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 7 January 2017 22:38 (eight years ago)

First Skynet came for the cynics, and I said nothing...

rb (soda), Saturday, 7 January 2017 22:42 (eight years ago)

you rang?

pareidolia, Saturday, 7 January 2017 23:02 (eight years ago)

They're doing a who's on first routine right now!

Evan, Saturday, 7 January 2017 23:25 (eight years ago)

http://s.mlkshk-cdn.com/r/1ARA1

Dan I., Sunday, 8 January 2017 04:52 (eight years ago)

Don't these all work in the same way, ie by taking stored conversations from humans v chatbots and using those responses? Seems fairly straight forward, but still funny imo.

โ€• Ste, Saturday, January 7, 2017 3:12 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


yeah that's exactly how it works. they pick up keywords and then have a database of all the ways humans responded

ciderpress, Sunday, 8 January 2017 17:45 (eight years ago)

thats why they spend so much time talking about 'favorite ____' since thats kinda level 1 conversation that people try w/ bots

ciderpress, Sunday, 8 January 2017 17:48 (eight years ago)

So at some point maybe humans will learn how to be less boring and predictable in chat, and then bots will finally be able to take over?

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Sunday, 8 January 2017 18:06 (eight years ago)

thepandamystery was so much better

mh ๐Ÿ˜, Sunday, 8 January 2017 18:38 (eight years ago)

What if we could get two teams of humans pretending to be AIs to chat with each other?

Brb have to write terrible novelette

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Sunday, 8 January 2017 18:52 (eight years ago)

too late. i spent a lot of time on one of those back in high school:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q%26A_website#Forum_2010

remy bean, Sunday, 8 January 2017 19:15 (eight years ago)

Wait, I linked to the wrong thing. Forum 2000 (forum200.org) was, for you younglings, "a front end to a sophisticated expert system incorporating the latest breakthroughs in natural language and neural network research", providing a group of AI simulations of various celebrities to answer your most pressing questions. It was also a hilarious, four-year hoax.

http://andrej.com/quadratic.html

remy bean, Sunday, 8 January 2017 19:21 (eight years ago)

two weeks pass...

I was recently invited to meet with 3ric Schm1dt to talk about my labโ€™s work. * We spent some talking about DeepMindโ€™s work on AlphaGo.

While reinforcement learning was responsible for AlphaGoโ€™s success, he bemoaned that press and researchers alike for overlooking the critical role expert systems and planning performed. He claimed expert system-like rules were used to keep the system from searching branches where complexity outweighed usefulness

Likewise, I saw a presentation by C4r0l1na W4h1by. While her work is rooted in classical computer vision (e.g. discovering useful shape and texture features), her presentation was about her recent work building neural networks for image segmentation problems.

Instead of training her network with images and annotations, she paired images with pre-computed features (e.g. Histogram of Oriented Gradients or a response from a Gabor filter) she knew improves segmentation or performance. If you think about it, she built an inverse expert system. While she wrote rules for pre-processing, she relied on the network for processing. It worked well.

* If youโ€™re curious, I assumed heโ€™d meet with dozens of researchers, but there were six of us. It was a brag-worthy experience. I was surprised he was familiar with the state-of-the-art in my fields (I, like most of my colleagues, are usually behind because weโ€™re focused on discrete problems and canโ€™t stay informed about everything), and his advice was super valuable. In fact, one piece of advice convinced me to change course in a project that was already underway.

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 22 January 2017 23:52 (eight years ago)

did you ask him why the killed google reader?

nah seriously very cool! i'm starting a project on interpretability right now and yes, all roads lead to expert sysems.

i have been doing mostly probabilistic programming recently though, and it has been wonderful not to think about neural networks.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Monday, 23 January 2017 00:49 (eight years ago)

One of you please move to Seattle and then hire me

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 23 January 2017 01:35 (eight years ago)

Did anyone see the show with Mia out of Humans where they made an AI bot of her, and then got people to interview her via Skype? Some people were fooled! It was quite odd. They are getting closer to undoing that uncanny valley thing with facial expressions.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 23 January 2017 05:00 (eight years ago)

One of you please move to Seattle and then hire me

I TRIED TO HIRE YOU

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 26 January 2017 19:02 (eight years ago)

I know :( I shoulda followed through on that if only to get to talk

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 26 January 2017 19:36 (eight years ago)

work is better now than it was then tho and also we'reโ€ฆprobably not going to abruptly run out of money again for a couple years

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 26 January 2017 19:37 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfdrQL5Ff-A

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 30 January 2017 18:50 (eight years ago)

lol @ these people https://openreview.net/forum?id=BkjLkSqxg

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Monday, 6 February 2017 19:59 (eight years ago)

I like the conspiracy angle -- you don't like our ideas because other people on social media said bad things about them!

mh ๐Ÿ˜, Monday, 6 February 2017 20:13 (eight years ago)

lots of people thing apples are good, you like apples, therefore you must have talked to lots of people

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Monday, 6 February 2017 20:17 (eight years ago)

is that somewhere on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Monday, 6 February 2017 20:19 (eight years ago)

it's very close to gamerg4te logic -- you think it's weird that this game only has women in bikinis or in non-speaking parts, and reviewed it lower because of it, so obviously you're in league with a vast online conspiracy

mh ๐Ÿ˜, Monday, 6 February 2017 20:20 (eight years ago)


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