start a victory garden and ration your IRRATIONALLY ANGRY feelings, part 3

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3. And whose entire conversation consists of telling people that they are on a bus

This is better than what I usually hear on subway--today a guy on phone threatening to beat up a woman, every other day a bunch of homophobic slurs

When a subway car arrives and all the seats are empty but people are crowding the doors in anticipation of getting off at the NEXT stop. And even though the train is not moving they won't budge from their positions to let you through to the seats.

when people i don't know who have no interest in actually shopping/buying come in my store and start talking to me and ask me how my store is doing financially. last week, some stranger asked me if i can pay my rent. this is after i told them that i've been there for 8 years. seems rude. and makes me irrationally angry. but i came frome a family where such things were just. not. done.

sometimes i will return the favor and ask them how their job is going and if they're doing okay.

also seems a little mean. "i don't want to buy anything i just want to incredulously/disingenuously ask you how you can make a living doing what you're doing."

i should just guilt them from now on. why don't i guilt them? "I do okay, It's always nice when someone comes in and buys something from a local shop. I REALLY appreciate it. Let me know if you need help finding anything."

When a subway car arrives and all the seats are empty but people are crowding the doors in anticipation of getting off at the NEXT stop. And even though the train is not moving they won't budge from their positions to let you through to the seats.

― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:53 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

keep coming across this on buses. A crowd of people stand towards the front or blocking the stairs obscuring the fact that there are seats on the back row downstairs or half of upstairs being free.

With the bus thing the crowd seems to accumulate as people assume that there can't be anything beyond the crowd.
I've wound out calling out before taht there are seats at the back.

Even if there is a reason for people to be standing it seems to take a while for the idea to sink in that people should move down the aisle.

same people who step off escalators and just stand there

Always imagine them thinking, "The floor quit moving. Something must be wrong!"

The halfway-point of those is people who rush onto a subway/train when it's about to leave then stop, not thinking "maybe other people are in the same situation, and are about to arrive in the small of my back".

Also people who step off and stand in front of the elevator door looking dazed and then move away just as the doors close, leaving the people waiting to get on stuck outside

This is a student thing big time

> some stranger asked me if i can pay my rent

maybe he was going to offer to torch the place for the insurance money if you were struggling?

(i might have read too much ed mcbain)

i should just guilt them from now on. why don't i guilt them? "I do okay, It's always nice when someone comes in and buys something from a local shop. I REALLY appreciate it. Let me know if you need help finding anything."

100% yes

Scott's non-customers remind me of the jerks I used to deal with working at a record store after I had my arm broken by a mugger. How much I loved telling that story to every curious middle aged man who came into the store and pestered me about my cast.

"You should SEE the other guy!"

keep coming across this on buses. A crowd of people stand towards the front or blocking the stairs obscuring the fact that there are seats on the back row downstairs or half of upstairs being free.

There was someone standing on the stairs on my bus last week (it was quite full but there were other viable standing places and a few seats left) who did not move when I walked down the stairs, even when I said "excuse me". He eventually moved quite sullenly when the bus finally stopped, as if it was a great surprise and inconvenience that anyone might need to go downstairs to get off the bus.

Someone will prob be IA about people like me who wander round moving buses, because yes it's dangerous and ideally we could all remain seated until the bus is stationary, but in my experience neither passengers nor bus driver want to wait for slowcoaches if nobody goes through the door immediately

I'm glad it's not just Los Angeles people who are unfamiliar with the concept of mass transit.

This weekend some guy got on with his bike and stood with it right in front of the door, when there was an empty, marked bike/suitcase/stroller space literally 4 feet from him.

And that makes me curios, do other cities allow/provide for bring bicycles on trains?

Not allowed during rush hour in Chicago. Still see the occasional asshole trying to squeeze one on a packed train though.

You put them on a rack on the front of the bus here.

Then you take it off at your destination and ride down the sidewalk, nearly hitting me and the other pedestrians.

LA buses have racks on the front too, but I'm always sure that if I used it, when I got off I'd be thinking "Now what did I need to do first?..." and ten seconds later realize my bike is carrying on without me towards who knows where.

DC has both the bike racks and specified bike-on-rail times.

London lets them on trains when not at rush hour, and some non-rush hour subway lines including the one which connects the main train termini. Folding bikes are far more welcome, of course.

When I was in london I was surprised to see a delivery guy getting off the overland train carrying a bike. THink he had a pizza type delivery case/bag in one hand and had a delivery company logo on the back of his jacket.
Hadn't thought they'd factor in fares into delivery costs if the guy had a bike.

I've been getting IA about people who say "sorry" in response to my "excuse me" as we negotiate around each other on a sidewalk. I've noticed this a few times in the last month and I just want to yell at these people. You don't have to bring apologies into it. You didnt injure me. We're just trying to traverse the same narrow band of concrete.

arent you bald and six feet plus

id say sorry tbh

I would be one of the people hl is angry at, but tbftm I don't see much difference between "sorry" and "excuse me" anyway. What are you doing on the sidewalk which requires excusing?

when u mistake an opener only bottle cap for a twist off & shred the fuck out of yr hand trying to open it :(

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl)

yeah i ain't got time to figure out that shit, i just use bottle openers on all bottles whether they're twist caps or not

keep in mind this is the IRRATIONALly angry thread, Tim

I was merely agreeing that hl's anger was irrational, in the face of hl's own rationalisation of this blatantly irrational reaction to innocent apologising. :)

lol fair :)

I would be one of the people hl is angry at, but tbftm I don't see much difference between "sorry" and "excuse me" anyway. What are you doing on the sidewalk which requires excusing?

― Tim, Wednesday, February 1, 2017 7:26 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I feel like "excuse me" is just a polite thing to say to acknowledging a mild inconvenience, whereas "sorry" should be reserved for apologizing for an offense. I feel like there's a heavier connotation to that word. But yes, I acknowledge this is probably irrational.

I'm just talking about two people walking past one another on a sidewalk here. Perhaps there is a trash can or planter in the way which necessitates slightly more maneuvering than usual.

xps to Darragh: I'm an imposing presence, no doubt, but try my best to compensate for that through mild manners.

The worst is when I'm maneuvering down a sidewalk past someone obviously talking on their phone or to a person beside them. I say "excuse me" as I pass but the person is taken off guard and yells something like "EXCUSE YOU" or "you don't even say excuse me?"

What I'd like to say back is "Jesus, how long have you been in philly?"

Obliviously

I tend to say "pardon me," which can mean anything from "I hope you will forgive my rudeness in imposing on your personal tranquility" to "get the fuck out of the way, ya jackhole."

HL never come to England then. I could be saving a family from a burning building and I'd still apologise repeatedly for it

In the UK, it's a mark of citizenship to be able to say 'sorry' in dozens of ways, only one of which has anything to do with apology.

if you say "excuse me" , how's, what rejoinder do you prefer? they ignore you?

"no problem"

"no worries"

"you're excused"

"Bet you're not sorry though."

"don't come the innocent with me"

"excuse me"

*headbutt*

americans feel it a sign of weakness to say "sorry" because it implies fault for some reason. we really hate that, admitting fault

Yeah, sorry about that.

I apologize if anyone feels slammed into a wall by my shoulder

"sorry" implies not so much an admission of fault, but an abject state of mind

The best apologies are when someone says "I'm sorry YOU feel that way".

"I'm sorry if you were offended."

I had a co-worker who used to sit across the cube from me, so I'd hear her calls,and at least 3 or more times a day, I'd hear her say (in a calm demeanor) "Well, I'm sorry I offended you".

I was like...what the hell are you saying to these people that you have to say that multiple times a day?

And if I offended you, I'm sorry, but maybe you needed to be offended. YOU CAN'T BRING ME DOWN.

lol

yeah but also there is 38% too much offence taken so its really context driven tbh