all this stuff is rational though. my IRRATIONAL anger on the road is reserved for:
http://www.hamptonsedge.com/images/slide3.jpg
I'm so afraid I might hit them that i really want to hit them! and always with the science professor beards. they outta be outlawed. the bikes. not the beards.
― scott seward, Monday, 6 February 2017 19:30 (seven years ago) link
there was a guy who lived near me in center city philadelphia who rode one of those in the streets of philly! city streets! so insane. i don't get it. i think i actually started a thread on those guys once. (99% of them are guys. #anecdotal)
― scott seward, Monday, 6 February 2017 19:32 (seven years ago) link
Recumbents are good for people with bad backs who have trouble riding traditional road bikes, fuck off.
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Monday, 6 February 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link
One of my friends was nearly killed in Wyoming last fall while cycling from Cleveland to Seattle. She just had the piece of her skull they removed re-inserted last Friday, and she's still re-learning how to walk right now. I don't find jokes about running over cyclists remotely funny.
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Monday, 6 February 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link
recumbent bike guys are benign presences but it's weird how they all look like ron rifkin or bob balaban.
― nomar, Monday, 6 February 2017 19:37 (seven years ago) link
I remember reading about an elderly woman who was killed in a crosswalk by a bicyclist blowing through it. San Francisco, I think.
"President Keyes for the hardman pedestrian award"
Hopefully not the "There are old hardmen pedestrians, and bold hardmen pedestrians, but no old and bold hardmen pedestrians" award.
― nickn, Monday, 6 February 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link
On average, cyclists in the US kill fewer than 1 pedestrian per year.
On average, motorists in the US kill between 800-900 cyclists per year.
Fuck off.
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Monday, 6 February 2017 19:51 (seven years ago) link
in terms of lapd, i've had the worst luck in the downtown la area, they're super strict there
never had problems on the westside but i'm mostly a law abiding resident
the suburbs are a free for all obv
― Fโฏ Aโฏ (โ), Monday, 6 February 2017 19:51 (seven years ago) link
recumbent bikes really, really need those visible tall flags on them
― mh ๐, Monday, 6 February 2017 19:53 (seven years ago) link
there's a particular small street in west hollywood/hollywood where a bunch of cyclists have marked territory and if you're on it it's hell because they take up the entire street and go nice and slow
― Fโฏ Aโฏ (โ), Monday, 6 February 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link
oh stop i'm not gonna hit anyone. but it's fine to express your irrational anger toward my irrational anger here. x-post
i think it takes a lot of faith in your fellow man to ride one of those things though. they are hard to see and people go out of their way to avoid them on the road. often going into another lane entirely to keep their distance from them. which is kinda dangerous. and it's harder for someone who is riding one to avoid people/cars than on a normal bike i would imagine. they just scare me a little when i have to pass one. like its gonna fall over into the road. which is also irrational. there aren't a lot of them though. so, not much of a problem.
― scott seward, Monday, 6 February 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link
nothing beats the moped fear when i lived on marthas vineyard though. so frightening. people weaving in and out of traffic. sometimes riding on the road and sometimes on the side. lots of people who had never been on one before too. even bikes on the vineyard could be scary to drive near/around. they have put more bike paths on the island though. those roads were just not made for that many cars/bikes/etc.
― scott seward, Monday, 6 February 2017 20:02 (seven years ago) link
i'm very careful around bicycles. but, like with car drivers, not everyone knows how to ride safely. which is why i'm careful. i just think there are too many big fast vehicles out there now. and most of them see bikes as a nuisance. i don't even think riding a bike is fun anymore. maybe if i lived in iowa or someplace with no people.
― scott seward, Monday, 6 February 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link
recumbent bikes seem much less rapidly maneuverable than conventional bikes. just try imagining a peloton made up entirely of recumbents. it would be static as hell. I think it is that lack of maneuverability that inspires drivers with secret dread. as a frequent pedestrian, I'd hate to have to walk anywhere that a lot of recumbents were zipping around, too.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 6 February 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link
i also don't care if i have to go slow. which seems to make me the minority. people (cars AND bikes) have to go so fast and they do stupid stuff all the time. definitely makes me angry. especially now when people drive tanks.
― scott seward, Monday, 6 February 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link
and i haven't even talked about how i want to kill the people who don't use their blinkers yet. which is a LOT of people these days. so dangerous!
― scott seward, Monday, 6 February 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link
oh yeah, there seems to be a law I didn't know about that if you're driving in a residential area you needn't ever use turn signals
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 6 February 2017 20:16 (seven years ago) link
As a pedestrian the combination of state laws and a regional respect for crosswalks here is still shocking and great, at least compared to Michigan where it's basically fuck you if you're not in a car. I was back there this summer and behind a motorcycle with a Washington State plate and watched him instinctively stop to let some pedestrians cross and all the other cars couldn't understand and just blew by him.
But as a frequent driver around a university this mindset combined with entitled or oblivious students is terrifying as they frequently cross streets without even bothering to look around or signal their intentions, regardless of weather or darkness and completely ignoring the laws of physics required to stop a car going 30 miles an hour on snowy roads.
― joygoat, Monday, 6 February 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link
I think people are Michigan-esque here in that there are a bunch of drivers who think all streets are 55mph highways that occasionally go through small towns/commercial areas even when they are in a dense pedestrian district
― mh ๐, Monday, 6 February 2017 20:19 (seven years ago) link
A lawyer who specializes in head injuries once gave me the following rundown: imagine a $4 million dollar settlement for a disabling car accident. That's if you were crossing the street at a crosswalk when the walk light was in your favor. If you were crossing the street somewhere other than a crosswalk, cut it in half. If you were crossing when the walk light was not in your favor, cut it inn half again.
― Oh the pacmanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 6 February 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link
A car knocked me off my bike once. I got about $1600 for it.
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 02:18 (seven years ago) link
A bike knocked me off of my horse once. Now I can't add numbers.
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 02:22 (seven years ago) link
A horse and a recumbent bike walked into a bar once. The bartender said, why the long faces?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 02:59 (seven years ago) link
Rod Stewart walked into a bar once. The barkeep poured gasoline on him and light him on fire and everybody thanked him afterward .
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 03:15 (seven years ago) link
rip he was sexy
― mh ๐, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 04:13 (seven years ago) link
LIDL repackaging fairtrade bananas so the package labeling is the same colour as the other varieties. Used to be distinct enough to spot so you could tell at a glance if they had them in. Now got to pick up packs to check.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 07:55 (seven years ago) link
I work in a corporate building which also provides ESL classes for children in the afternoon. I get IA when these kids run in and out of the bathrooms screaming, with little regard for keeping the bathroom clean. Maybe this belongs in the disgusting savages thread.
― Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 01:13 (seven years ago) link
the spelling of 'reneges' is an absolute disgrace
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 01:23 (seven years ago) link
People repaying you for basic decency. I helped out someone having a medical emergency the other day, and I come into the pub today (she's barstaff in my local) and I have 5 pints in the barrel for me. And it really bugs me - it feels like turning ordinary social interactions into a material transaction. Or something. I can't quite express why it annoys me so much - hence this thread.
― Eallach mhรณr an duine leisg (dowd), Thursday, 9 February 2017 14:52 (seven years ago) link
I understand that completely. But hey, it doesn't completely sound like an "ordinary social interaction" or "basic" decency is what compelled her to comp the pints for you.
― pplains, Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:28 (seven years ago) link
Meanwhile, I called the cops on a burglary in process at my neighbor's house last summer while he was out of town, and he promised us some home-baked cookies. Guess who hasn't gotten his cookies yet?
― pplains, Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:30 (seven years ago) link
I think you're allowed to break in and take whatever cookies you find
― mh ๐, Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link
It wasn't her for most of them - she bought me a pint, the rest was from others. But perhaps it's the same part of me that hates compliments? And I didn't do what I should have - I wanted to call an ambulance, and she told me not to. She was admitted to hospital later - I should have ignored her. But regardless of this case, it bothers me when people insist on repaying stuff: you help each other and that's it.
― Eallach mhรณr an duine leisg (dowd), Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:35 (seven years ago) link
Obv. Cookie promises should be fulfilled.
― Eallach mhรณr an duine leisg (dowd), Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:36 (seven years ago) link
sounds like they were just celebrating you being a good person with an unofficial toast
― mh ๐, Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:36 (seven years ago) link
Yeah dowd I think you're off base here. Don't look at it as a transaction or repayment - I doubt they think of it that way! It's more like "here is a token of our gratitude - a physical symbol of the esteem we hold you in for what you did"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:41 (seven years ago) link
you did them a favor, by buying you a beer they had an excuse to order one for themselves
― mh ๐, Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:46 (seven years ago) link
keep in mind this is the IRRATIONALly angry thread, Timโ illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 12:34 (one week ago)
โ illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 12:34 (one week ago)
― Tim, Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:47 (seven years ago) link
:) indeed
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 February 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link
You should have asked for all 5 pints at once and then poured them on the ground one by one in protest
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 February 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link
Worst yet
― Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link
My step-dad has this thing about restaurants offering something free - like desserts or comped drinks - to make up for inferior service (like a long wait.)
His point is that he doesn't want to be "bought off" for his inconvenience. I'm not sure how else a restaurant manager is supposed to make amends with a disgruntled customer, but I see where both sides are coming from.
This is a different situation from dowd's, but it got me thinkin'.
― pplains, Thursday, 9 February 2017 17:25 (seven years ago) link
Agree with step-dad.
― Jeff, Thursday, 9 February 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link
xp it doesn't fix the problem just masks the symptom
― Fโฏ Aโฏ (โ), Thursday, 9 February 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
door to door marketing with horrible value propositions
i tend to avoid most people knocking on my front door unless it's a recognizable neighbor, or a car is broken down right outside or something and someone needs help.. or a girl scout with cookies..
talked to a couple people from the local phone/internet company who were letting people know they were now offering fiber internet in the area and were trying to sign people up. i use the cable/internet company and, while there are service interruptions on occasion, it's pretty much fine
i was listening to their spiel until i finally asked what speed their offering was and it was 12mbps and i was like GUYS LET'S NOT WASTE ANY MORE TIME THAT IS REALLY BAD. my irrational anger is strong when people are going door to door with horrible value propositions
― mh ๐, Thursday, 9 February 2017 19:32 (seven years ago) link
Don't want to mellow mh's harsh, but want to say one thing about the popular notion of Girl Scouts going from door-to-door with cookies that they are selling. They may sell door-to-door, but usually not like that.
In actual practice, what they do is go around with an order form. Then they return (weeks later) to deliver the cookies you ordered. Payment is due when you get the cookies, not when you place the order.
We are going through this in my house just now, so I'm reflecting on how different those logistics are from the movie/TV idea of it, which is a Girl Scout showing up with cookies and asking if you want to buy them.
Carrion.
― Oh the pacmanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link
thanks for scoutsplaining
― mh ๐, Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link
I have had both girl scouts showing up with cookies I previously ordered, and one family that did the trick where you order a bunch of boxes and then sell them later
also, I ate the cookies
― mh ๐, Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:15 (seven years ago) link
"talked to a couple people from the local phone/internet company"
these can be scammers who don't actually work for verizon or whoever. they end up tacking big charges to people's phone bills. usually old people. and sometimes if you ask them for a card or i.d. they get nervous. and they will often have nothing in writing that they will give you. bad news.
the irrationally angry part for me was that they would come to my store and say they were verizon and they had no idea if i already had verizon service. because they don't actually work for them!
i've yelled at them in my store. for rational reasons.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link
i mean, i don't know if that was the case here. but phone/internet people from actual phone/internet companies don't usually go door to door. they were coming to my store almost once a month. they looked like hoodlums. very sketchy.
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link