Getting Away from Things That Get Bad: The ILX Road-Movie Poll Results Thread

Breathless feels like more of a car movie than a road movie, not sure how I'd define the distinction though.

― devvvine, Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:56 PM (yesterday)

Actually, I would probably agree with this (still voted for it tho').

I think road-movie and car-movie is a meaningful distinction (obviously with lots of overlap.)

yeah Christine is not a road movie, for ex.

20. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
56 points/6 votes/one #1

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Surprised this finished so high. I think it's okay.

Will fix that date posthaste...

19. American Honey
58 points/4 votes/one #1

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Still think about this periodically; will see it again next time it shows up in a theatre. I think it'd make a great double-bill with Boyhood, although I'm not sure I could explain that.

YUP

(one of my top votes)

Hate leaving Sasha Lane out of the image, but I used up the best one in the previous thread. The one above is the second screen-shot of my own.

18. La Strada
60 points/5 votes/one #1

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I've seen it. Long ago. Remember nothing.

It's great altho tbh I prefer Nights of Cabiria

Haven't seen that. Of the five or six Fellinis I've seen, La Dolce Vita is the only one I want to see again.

17. Wendy and Lucy
62 points/6 votes

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Love this. I don't think her three since have come close, although Certain Women finally gets an opening here next week, and I expect it will look great on a big screen. Took me about twenty tries before I stopped referring to this as Wendy and Lisa.

You're being a bit hard on yourself, Οὖτις, saying you've not seen much of the Euro stuff when you've watched Herzog and Bergman and Fellini! I obviously have a Euro bias but I haven't seen a lot of these films either, and am trying hard not to point the finger of disgusting savagery and filmic naïveté at myself.

xpost lol, clemenza, going through the list I wondered what 'this film about Wendy & Lisa' was, multiple times.

Just a beautiful film, have been putting off watching this for years and had to read the ending first as well.

It's outtakes from the Purple Rain tour, with random backseat shots of Michelle Williams mixed in.

Spoiler alert.

16. Two-Lane Blacktop
62 points/7 votes

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Lol

Yay! for Wages and Brother, both of which I voted for. Boo for the first hour of American Honey, which I got through about an hour of before abandoning (it was during a stressful time of my life; I probably would have watched the whole thing at any other time, though I highly doubt that I would have liked it).

Need to see La Strada, and I guess I need to see Wendy and Lucy as well, though it never looked that interesting to me.

Breathless is not a road film.

Sorry for the redundancies in my above post. Too much wine with dinner.

I haven't seen 2LB either, though it is the film that I often confuse with Vanishing Point.

15. Something Wild
63 points/5 votes

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This was really lagging for the first half of the ballots; picked up towards the end and finished about where I thought it would, maybe a little lower. Missed my own ballot, but not by much.

The complete surprise of Two-Lane Blacktop's last minute remains one the best dumbfounding experiences I've ever had in a movie theatre. (It and Vanishing Point and Drive, He Said have always existed alongside each other in my mind, although I still haven't seen the other two.)

A shameful blindspot. Particularly in light of recent events.

Ray Liotta's terrifying in it. Not even sure if I made the connection to his character here when Goodfellas came out.

14. Wanda
64 points/6 votes

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"Goddamn it, it was 'Wanda, Wander.'"
"It was 'Wonder, Wanda.'"
"'Wanda, Wander'! 'Wanda, Wander'!"
"'Wonder, Wanda.'"
"What difference does it make? It was a hit!"

(Henry Gibson and Barbara Baxley in Nashville.)

Would love to read a book on the making of this.

Well, yep. Only saw it for the first time during nominations but it went straight into my top five. Barbara Loden is amazing.

She made two more shorts, both 1975, and nothing else till her death in 1980 (age 48). Married Kazan in 1968, was still with him when she died. I got some of the background when I saw someone introduce this a couple of years ago, but what a story.

13. Paris, Texas
64 points/8 votes

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As good as it gets when Ry Cooder's playing and they're driving at night. Some of the last third loses me.

Two more I need to see. I PVR'd Wanda a while ago and must have accidentally erased it.

12. Weekend
67 points/6 votes

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There's a road, and there are cars.

Another one I've never seen, but I'm right in the middle of reading Laura Mulvey on Godard, so I'm gearing up for a big JLC catch-up soon.

Paris was another one of my top votes, love it.

also hoping this gets some kind of uk release: http://variety.com/2017/film/festivals/lucky-sxsw-film-review-1202008227/

John Carroll Lynch, wow. His parts in Fargo and Zodiac make for one of the most schizophrenic pairings I can think of.

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I remember seeing a DVD of Wanda in a Tower Records when they were doing their going out of business sale, and I thought if a waited a few more days it'll be cheaper, but when I went back it was gone. They also had a Ross McElwee box set I planned to do the same with, also gone.

11. Five Easy Pieces
67 points/9 votes

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Perfect place to end for today. I had it fifth on my ballot, but any one of my top five could have been #1. I realize that part of why I think of this as a road movie actually has to do with the first paragraph of Stanley Kauffmann's review, reprinted in Living Images:

Two months ago I was driving down through the Grand Tetons and gave a lift to a young man. He turned out to be a Ph.D. candidate from an eastern university who had just finished his course work and couldn't get up enough interest to write his dissertation. The whole process had turned futile on him. He had come out to Wyoming to get a job with his hands; he didn't know how long it would be before he went back. Perhaps never.

I thought of him when I saw Five Easy Pieces.

I'm conflating an anecdote in a review with the film itself, but that opening has always stayed with me. In my mind, the part of me that wishes I were Bobby Dupea has this whole separate life that bears little resemblance to the one I actually lead.

Weekend or The Freewheelin' Jean Luc Godard is the bratty inversion of the genre i think, kind of a big fuck you to the romance of the car and the road, but it still manages to be soaked with the romance of the car and the road. i love how at this point onwards in his career JLG pushes boredom as a formal quality and still fills up on beautiful shot-framing. plus the notorious tracking shot near the beginning is everything that a road movie ought to be and kids really love it if you make them sit and watch it all in class. think i'm just back in a phase where he chimes with my shitty mood, wd've made this my own number 1 i think.

oh and that song the female protagonist sings periodically sticks in my head all day

I come at Weekend from two angles: the experience of watching it, and conceptually. I've seen it four or five times: sequences and images that stay with you forever, also boredom and impatience and befuddlement. It's not one of my favourite films, or even one of my favourite Godards.

Conceptually, though, everything NV says and more--as one person's response to 1968 (something that clearly starts building in his work as the decade goes along, all of it coalescing in Weekend), there aren't many films I hold in higher esteem.

10. Lost in America
68 points/8 votes

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"Why are you treating me like an animal?"
"I'll explain it to you later."

If that makes you inexplicably smile, you're on this film's unique wavelength.

It'll be scattershot, but I've got to finish this during the day. I promise you the most downbeat, anti-climactic Top 10 ever.

downbeat and anti-climactic are key notes of the true road movie

think 4 Mad Max films in the top 10 or just 3?

Weekend is far and away my favourite Godard of the ones I've seen, btw.

9. L’Avventura
69 points/5 votes

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There's no film I've tried harder to connect with. Seven or eight times I've gone back to it (unlike, say, 8-1/2, which I realized after a couple of tries was of a temperament far from my own). L’Avventura isn't. But I come up short every time.

(My favourite Godard is one of My Life to Live, Band of Outsiders, or Masculin Féminin. But I realize he had to get all of the Truffaut that flits in and out of those films out of his system before he could make Weekend.)

8. Stroszek
72 points/7 votes/two #1s

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I wrote about the music in this after re-watching it last week. I find Herzog himself a little cartoonish in his recent documentaries--find it hard to put together his persona there with this film.

(Sorry for rushing this along...I've got to get most of this finished before 9:00.)

Would have been my no. 1 on a straight ballot, the last act is just unforgettable and it also includes the funniest jump cut in history.

Trying to think of which jump-cut you mean...That auctioneer's amazing. Was surprised to see Errol Morris's name in the opening credits.

Stroszek is probably my favorite Herzog movie