They would be better, true. But I don't think it would be wholly inaccurate to use identified in that case. Maybe I'm wrong and it's still too much language twisting?
― emil.y, Saturday, 24 June 2017 18:10 (seven years ago) link
it wouldn't be inaccurate, in that a reader would understand the meaning of the sentence, it just would be an awkward use of the word "identified" when other words would be more appropriate.
― sarahell, Saturday, 24 June 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link
I don't know much about comma splices but I know, what I like
― space chipmunk (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 24 June 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link
In casual writing I've become addicted to mid-sentence end marks! which I know, is mad and wrong, but do I care? apparently not.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 24 June 2017 22:14 (seven years ago) link
Progressive
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 June 2017 22:21 (seven years ago) link
I mean is this all a sudden the new backpatting selfdescriptor or have I just not noticed it before, shit is everywhere
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 June 2017 22:22 (seven years ago) link
https://irishelectionliterature.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/hsmyth1.jpg
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 June 2017 22:30 (seven years ago) link
https://ptmoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Progressive-Logo.jpg
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 24 June 2017 22:38 (seven years ago) link
Can anyone point me to a thread that's the opposite of this? IE. Words, usages and phrases you love
― Unchanging Window (Ross), Sunday, 25 June 2017 07:35 (seven years ago) link
I tried it once phrases you like
& there was another one recently that had a few more takers I think
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Sunday, 25 June 2017 07:44 (seven years ago) link
thanks Wins :-)
― Unchanging Window (Ross), Sunday, 25 June 2017 08:00 (seven years ago) link
commas are fine the world would be better if everyone took a pause when they saw one
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 25 June 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link
e.b.white said you have to pull out a chair and sit down when you see one = the opposite of capitals
― mark s, Sunday, 25 June 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link
i am a "person of color" but holy shit i am really starting to hate this term, it so clumsy and awkward
― marcos, Thursday, 29 June 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link
"of color"
like something about it so dumb yet this is the accepted unoffensive term
― marcos, Thursday, 29 June 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link
Try it with a u?
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 June 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link
Still not good imho
I'm used to it by now tho
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 29 June 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link
"Living my best life" can sod off as well.
― off-site man days (Mr Andy M), Friday, April 28, 2017 2:36 AM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
my wife's good buddy/co-manager has a roommate who says this a lot and everyone hates it
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 29 June 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link
Just from an editor's point of view, I've never quite got how PoC is different from saying CP.
And yes, I've linked to that Bloom County strip before, it doesn't help my argument.
― pplains, Thursday, 29 June 2017 19:54 (seven years ago) link
here is where I remind people that an actual HR department suggested "pe0p1e of ethnicity" insteadand got arsey when questioned about it
googleproofing because I sure as hell googled it
― kinder, Thursday, 29 June 2017 21:31 (seven years ago) link
Yeah that just doesn't read significantly worse than the accepted phrase to me, this feels like a déjà vu argument tho
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 29 June 2017 22:09 (seven years ago) link
only noticeable diff between PoC and CP is added emphasis on their being people as opposed to their color.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 30 June 2017 04:57 (seven years ago) link
people of ethnicity is universal though. Everybody has an ethnicity or has Kaspar Hauser syndrome i.e. unless one is totally isolated from the people around one you pick up an ethnicity of some kind. Always strikes me as weird that white bread type people don't recognise their own ethnicity. Maybe it is an idea of norm that 'we' are automatically 'normal' and anybody labeled as having an ethnicity is obvioulsy working away from that norm. When the norm itself denotes an ethnicity in itself, innit?
― Stevolende, Friday, 30 June 2017 09:28 (seven years ago) link
Everyone has a skin colour too
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 30 June 2017 09:38 (seven years ago) link
How dare u
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Friday, 30 June 2017 11:37 (seven years ago) link
clear privilege
― space chipmunk (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 30 June 2017 15:03 (seven years ago) link
everytime i see POC i just think of the irish rugby player paul o'connell.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 30 June 2017 15:07 (seven years ago) link
everyone does
― President Keyes, Friday, 30 June 2017 15:08 (seven years ago) link
i prefer using white, black, brown tbh (purple too)
― marcos, Friday, 30 June 2017 15:09 (seven years ago) link
damn - i'm sorry he's had to go through so much.
xpost
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 30 June 2017 15:10 (seven years ago) link
I think of poo oyster cult
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 30 June 2017 15:12 (seven years ago) link
i feel like "brown people" has become hugely more prominent lately to mean "anyone who isn't of white ethnicity"
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 30 June 2017 15:16 (seven years ago) link
Meh. I like brown. I identify as brown, because it's less awkward than having to explain English-speaking Latino. As a term it's imprecise, but there's something empowerment of the imprecision. It feels inclusive, and I like it as an ethnic/racial analogue of "queer."
― rb (soda), Friday, 30 June 2017 15:53 (seven years ago) link
hanging out in los angeles in the 90s i saw lots of mexicans, central americans and chicanos wear t-shirts with this, actually say this and graffiti this a lot
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/40/b0/36/40b0367fb35a3424b439209522ef50b6--chicano-rap-latino-art.jpg
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 30 June 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link
at that time i knew a guy who was trying to get into mara salvatrucha and him and his pals were into this
he had a huge tattoo of his surname written in blackletter/gothic script that took up half of his back
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 30 June 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link
i always think it stands for 'piece of chit'.
― how's life, Friday, 30 June 2017 19:41 (seven years ago) link
Sneaked instead of snuck.
― how's life, Sunday, 2 July 2017 01:01 (seven years ago) link
man, after all the times i've seen some well-meaning person referring to somebody from england or whatever as "african-american", i'll take about anything else without complaint.
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Sunday, 2 July 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link
"Our entire office is filled with rock star co-workers you will surely call friends of yours after a few weeks".
Uh, NOPE - kinda doubt working in a corporate office is anything like working with rock stars
― Unchanging Window (Ross), Monday, 3 July 2017 23:14 (seven years ago) link
feel like both of those things are different kinds of suck
― more polls about food and reactionary art (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 July 2017 23:15 (seven years ago) link
"rock star" is now established corporate lingo indicating nothing in particular
― qualx, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 02:21 (seven years ago) link
Had a polite discussion with a female editor co-worker of mine over the phrase "girl boss".
As in "Check Out These 7 'Girl Bosses' Leading the Pack" for a profile compendium of women executives in our metro.
She was in favor, I was against, but the last thing I want to be accused of is mansplaining the phrase "girl boss" to a female compatriot of mine.
― pplains, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 03:19 (seven years ago) link
^different generations seem to think differently about stuff like that
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 03:26 (seven years ago) link
You would know, I guess.
― pplains, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 03:27 (seven years ago) link
I've seen more than a few generations so far. My grandparents were all born in the 19th century. Seen at least on generation coming up after me born in the 21st century. So, yeah, I've got anecdotal ground to stand on.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 03:32 (seven years ago) link
Gransplaining
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 11:59 (seven years ago) link
Re: PoC
I just use non-white. It's the clearest you can get. Some non-white people from countries where they are the majority hate the term PoC and think it should only be used in places where they are minorities.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 12:29 (seven years ago) link
Really hating "big bad" for main villain.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 12:30 (seven years ago) link
"Non-white" is problematic because it centres whiteness, though.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 15:10 (seven years ago) link