well if mordy thinks so I might have to reconsider
― ogmor, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:23 (seven years ago) link
I keep on thinking about Bryan Ferry.
― Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:30 (seven years ago) link
xp idk it maybe is more of an industry term of art? but ime it's super common esp regarding cars & industrial equipment
― Mordy, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:35 (seven years ago) link
punching up / punching down
get a new excuse for why it's ok for u to punch but not for someone else
― Mordy, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:38 (seven years ago) link
'make' as a noun was also rife at my high school but it didn't stop everyone sounding like non-native speakers
― ogmor, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:42 (seven years ago) link
lol telling someone to 'get' something and bad faith use of 'excuse' both strike me as much more heinous than fisticuffs as a shorthand for power dynamics
― ogmor, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:47 (seven years ago) link
i take exception to about 99% of that response
― Mordy, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:49 (seven years ago) link
"power dynamics" also a terrible terrible idiom tho
― Mordy, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:50 (seven years ago) link
ilx is the best place to take exception imo
― ogmor, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:53 (seven years ago) link
iirc I """"called"""" out pu/pd within about ten mins of first ilx use Mordy so you'll have to relinquish the rights to this one iirc
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link
thought it was okay for everyone to punch this year
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 15:23 (seven years ago) link
i'd expect nothing less xp
― Mordy, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link
I really hate seeing the word "band" used to describe a one-person studio-only project.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link
calling Trump "45." get over yourself
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link
unless it's used to replace the number 2. as in, i'm going to take a 45 right now.
― jenkem street team (carpet_kaiser), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 18:49 (seven years ago) link
i am really tired of this weird trend in mostly article writing of referring to any group of marginalized people as "folks" ie "black folks", "trans folks", "lgbt folks" even "folks of color" (???)
it seems like it's supposed to be careful wording but it always sticks out and i have no idea what the point of it is. just say people ??
― qualx, Tuesday, July 4, 2017 2:17 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
anti-oppressive practice and narrative therapy folks are really into this
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link
i see "white folks" quite a bit, too
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 18:53 (seven years ago) link
weird variation of the Haley Joel Osment affliction
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link
oh hey, here's a major one: "shitposting." why has this entered mainstream usage?
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link
I'm always expecting to hear the word "home" following folks, as in Old Folks Home.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link
xp: I have to imagine reddit and 4chan. I hate it too. Grosses me out.
― how's life, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 19:13 (seven years ago) link
In fairness it appears to map pretty closely to the sharp rise in shitposting
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link
Always thought 'punching up/punching down' was meant to place a situation in context rather than make out the innocence of one puncher as opposed to another
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 19:25 (seven years ago) link
Nope. It's what Mordy said.
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 19:30 (seven years ago) link
Can we have an example though?
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link
https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/Pages/Search/search.jsp
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 19:39 (seven years ago) link
Punching up is to brighten a script. If it's a comedy, add in more jokes! If it's a drama, heighten the tension!
Punching down is a dance move at hardcore shows.
― how's life, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 19:44 (seven years ago) link
One also punches down when making pizza or bread dough.
― honda for the goyim (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, July 5, 2017 11:27 AM (one hour ago)
this also bugs me a little, and it can be confusing when the one-person is referred to using the gender-neutral "they" -- a dj on the radio just did this about 45 minutes ago. But I couldn't tell whether she was just using "band" as a generic term, "they" as a gender neutral term (the artist in question is a guy that I'm pretty sure is okay with being male), or she didn't know that the "band" was just one person's project.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link
the word "alignment" used to describe where your life is at
"hope you find alignment"
this kind of pillowy language can fuck off
― Unchanging Window (Ross), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 20:46 (seven years ago) link
― Mordy, Wednesday, July 5, 2017 7:35 AM (six hours ago)
have seen it commonly used for electronic equipment and musical instruments
― sarahell, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link
the word "alignment" used to describe where your life is at"hope you find alignment"this kind of pillowy language can fuck off
damn this is wack and smacks of west coast
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link
I'm west coast 4 life and I've never heard this. Here we have lots of "balance" and "healing"
― sarahell, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:06 (seven years ago) link
^ lol
i'm west coast too sarahell :-)
― Unchanging Window (Ross), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link
Re-Brand/Re-Model
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link
xp cool
― sarahell, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:22 (seven years ago) link
lots of artists here now describing themselves as "healers" ... doesn't really annoy the shit out of me, but it's a trend I've noticed, and it doesn't really fit my sensibility
― sarahell, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:25 (seven years ago) link
there's always been this new age-y obsession with "healing" like the whole scene is a hypochondriacs' convention
― more polls about food and reactionary art (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:30 (seven years ago) link
I guess it's the result of the artists' desire to have their work do something other than just be "art for art's sake" -- some sort of functional role. I feel like it's more aspirational than realistic.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:33 (seven years ago) link
it's like being the unacknowledged legislators of the world just isn't enough for some folks
― more polls about food and reactionary art (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:36 (seven years ago) link
alignment is for chiropractors
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:42 (seven years ago) link
1. re punching up/punching down, there was a Slugger O'Toole post last week calling out* "mischaracterisation and 'punching down' of Ulster Protestants", which v much confused me until I noticed the article refers to caricatures in Punch magazine of old
* apologies if "calling out" is a phrase that annoys the shit out of you, I'm not that keen myself but always seem to end up using it because I can't think of a similar suitably vague alternative
2. as a hypochondriac of nebulous imaginary woes which are undiagnosable as actual illness but I could still do with "healing", I can live with its use in new age treehugging contexts, but for art... I don't like it
I like art to rip me a few new wounds and ruptures I s'pose (NB not really but it sounded cool to my inner teenager), and don't you tell me whether your art is effective in any positive or negative sense
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:43 (seven years ago) link
Punching up is to brighten a script. If it's a comedy, add in more jokes! If it's a drama, heighten the tension!Punching down is a dance move at hardcore shows.
I like to say of an overworked script "this could have used a little punching down"
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:45 (seven years ago) link
xp u get a pass on most things spacecadet <3
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 21:57 (seven years ago) link
<3 <3 tho I might need a list of the thing I don't get a pass on, for research purposes
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link
or even things plural
perhaps there is only one but that's not a great list
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link
O don't worry you'll know when it happens
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 22:23 (seven years ago) link
imho the punching up/down metaphor has proved legitimately useful and valuable for, e.g., female comedians pointing out to male comedians that rape jokes aren't funny. is it the most precise and on-the-money way of making this point, idk, but ime it's not really about finding an "excuse" to do anything.
― ﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 23:48 (seven years ago) link
u get a pass on most things spacecadet
I got this joke
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 6 July 2017 01:21 (seven years ago) link
?!
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 July 2017 07:39 (seven years ago) link