SADDO: THE MOVIE (aka READY PLAYER ONE)

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talking more about the whole "here's a thing you might remember. there's no joke here and it doesn't affect the plot, but here's a thing."

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link

Dennis Miller was doing that for a couple decades before Family Guy debuted.

#IMPOTUS (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:27 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

ok so I read this book and it wasn't nearly as terrible as I was expecting. obv that guy's poem is dumb but I think there is something to the book re: the endless recapitulation of references, etc; it doesn't make as big a deal about it as maybe it should, but the implication by the end is definitely that there's something hollow, and sad about this world where new culture has stopped and all we have is an obsessive compulsive relationship with the past. I think the movie could shed an interesting light on this aspect, if it wants.

akm, Saturday, 18 November 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

"what critique of capitalism does it have in it? how the whole thing of the text i have read has been about fetishizing corporate IPs."

the bad guys of the book are a corporation and the entire point of the quest is to defeat the capitalist enterprise and keep the virtual world in the hands of the people.

akm, Saturday, 18 November 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link

the virtual world which is... full of corporate creations

wow. that was truly the minecraft of sex. (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 18 November 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

ok so I read this book and it wasn't nearly as terrible as I was expecting. obv that guy's poem is dumb but I think there is something to the book re: the endless recapitulation of references, etc; it doesn't make as big a deal about it as maybe it should, but the implication by the end is definitely that there's something hollow, and sad about this world where new culture has stopped and all we have is an obsessive compulsive relationship with the past. I think the movie could shed an interesting light on this aspect, if it wants.

― akm, Saturday, November 18, 2017

nope nope nope

just bc you're smart doesn't mean this book is

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 18 November 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I think there is something to the book re: the endless recapitulation of references, etc; it doesn't make as big a deal about it as maybe it should, but the implication by the end is definitely that there's something hollow, and sad about this world where new culture has stopped and all we have is an obsessive compulsive relationship with the past. I think the movie could shed an interesting light on this aspect, if it wants.

wouldn't have subjected myself to the book but glad for this report and yeah what was a technical possibility upthread on grounds of the holy jurassic park is now what i'm actually hoping the movie is about. chapo guys were loling about patton oswalt having said "it's like jaws but the shark is nostalgia" like it was the perfect burn, but like wouldn't that be... good

plus the mere presence of spielberg totally changes the thing's scope (b/c personally responsible for the originals of so many of the reprocessed images), automatically on a metatextual level but i hope on a textual one too (as in JP when spielberg's POV hijacks the hammond char)

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

on the other hand, that the book was presumably all fair-use yet could not legally be adapted without further enriching "ernie cline" is enough to make u wish for direct corporate rule

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

READY PLAYER ONE (2018)

DP: Janusz Kaminski
Director: Steven Spielberg pic.twitter.com/CXXTTxoGY2

— Christmas Duckman (@bobservo) December 10, 2017

frogbs, Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:48 (six years ago) link

What....what the fuck?!

https://i.imgur.com/gQQlUfD.png

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Thursday, 14 December 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link

this appears to be some blurry CGI, hth

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 14 December 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

That’s not helping!

Also, it’s the inclusion of a particular character or two I’m questioning

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

Is Overwatch timeless enough for the prominence of that character's inclusion to not be hilariously dated in 5 years? I honestly don't know.

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link

Venerable IPs worth protecting were probably beyond the budget. IIRC, there really isn't much in the book extending into the 1990s, much less our present decade.

Alas, 40somethings aren't a great target demographic (cf Blade Runner 2049's box office). Compromises were made.

Sanpaku, Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link

Venerable IPs worth protecting were probably beyond the budget.

― Sanpaku, Thursday, December 14, 2017

if only

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 14 December 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link

How much post 80s shit shows up in the original book? There are Firefly refs in there, for example

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Thursday, 14 December 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

https://nerdist.com/ready-player-one-trailer-25-easter-eggs-nerdist-news/

Four (!) "Street Fighter" characters, Joker and Harley Quinn, Overwatch (why didn't they use lol Roadhog), Akira, tons more.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 14 December 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link

https://i.redd.it/59ktxnd5vkbz.jpg

good luck to Speilberg working w this genius

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 December 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link

I for one am excited that Stephen Spielberg is adapting Kingdom Hearts for the silver screen.

Oiled Launch (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 December 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

Sorry, 'Stephen Spielberb'

Oiled Launch (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 December 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

this seems to resemble the Keillor/Altman divide of years ago

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 December 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

btw i don't know who any of these 'characters' you guys mentioned are, so i will be able to watch this OBJECTIVELY (if at all)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 December 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link

lol

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Thursday, 14 December 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link

sorry AB I gotta FP you for that

frogbs, Thursday, 14 December 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This is a pretty thorough tear-down of the book, from the point of view of "reference-heavy culture can be good": https://www.heypoorplayer.com/2017/07/28/second-opinion-ready-player-one-worst-thing-nerd-culture-ever-produced/

The thread of excerpts is enough to give me hives though:

Thankfully goodreads kept all my choice RPO notes handy so anything that annoyed the fuck out of me is right here. pic.twitter.com/E6G9uEigVJ

— N. Cat (@naricat) July 24, 2017

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 11:47 (six years ago) link

man that is brutal. kinda thought "this could not possibly be as bad as everyone's saying it is" and holy shit it's actually a lot worse

frogbs, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link

You guys should check out my upcoming novel which is literally just a list of pop cultural ephemera accented with occasional punctuation and indentations to make it look like a story rather than something I c+p-ed from Wikipedia. You should also check out all of the zeroes in the dollar figure on my advance check.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Just wanted to post that I’ve really been enjoying Mike Nelson & his Rifftrax producer’s podcast on this book. They have like 8 eps as a book club where they just excoriate this shit. It’s fun.

We’ve probly mentioned this before but it’s called “372 Pages We’ll Never Get Back”.

372pages.com

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Monday, 29 January 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link

Also, they just started a second where they tear into “Armada,” the follow up

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Monday, 29 January 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link

CLINE'S A SHITTY PROSE WRITER
AND HE RIPPED "LAST STARFIGHTER"
ARMADA

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Monday, 29 January 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link

I almost hate you for that but

Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 January 2018 22:37 (six years ago) link

Anyway somehow this news story seems appropriate for the revive

https://kotaku.com/infamous-atari-player-gets-world-record-removed-after-3-1822511777

Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 January 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link

lmao neanderthal!!!!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 29 January 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link

372pages.com

pretty fun so far. thanks for the rec

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 29 January 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link

yeah this is gold! mst3k riffing on this? sign me up...

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 29 January 2018 23:19 (six years ago) link

still hopeful

difficult listening hour, Monday, 29 January 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link

Ned yr article sent me down a rabbit hole. fascinating videos made about the dude who claims to have gotten 15 million on donkey kong (lol)

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Monday, 29 January 2018 23:27 (six years ago) link

i'm starting this mst3k-guys' podcast and will prolly enjoy it for the reasons it was created to be enjoyed but i find it neverendingly amusing how threatened sub-culture obsessed ppl seem to be by this pop-culture obsessed guy.

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:01 (six years ago) link

actually lol why would i listen to this, good god these dudes are boring

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:21 (six years ago) link

probably not the first time "neverendingly amusing" turned out to be 20 minutes for you

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:27 (six years ago) link

i dunno, you think that podcast is good? it reminds me of middle schoolers trying to target and ostracize someone and rally a group against them.

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:35 (six years ago) link

Gotta say it is really funny to sic the dudes who peaked in like 1995 after the nostalgia movie

somebody toucha my fgti (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:39 (six years ago) link

i like episode 0 where they are reading all the press reviews at the front of the book. one of them uses the word "geek" 3 times in as many sentences. Mike says "Imagine being in the 60's when the word 'groovy' had just gotten old. Have a groovy time on a groovalicious adventure." something like that. he is correct, the commodification of nerd culture has reached a Flower Child-like zenith, "geek" and "nerd" are the "groovy" and "far out" of today, used to shill the same old mindless crap as something new and hip.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:39 (six years ago) link

in one of the press reviews the word "Nerdgasm" is used by the New York Times. Mike bemoans the Old Gray Lady

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:40 (six years ago) link

So I listened to the first two episodes of this, but was put off a bit by it being yet another "two bros talking about a thing" podcast, and turned against it basically when they started showing off about how little literature they had read at the end of episode 0, I have never seen MST3K so maybe that's why I don't get it, but still, I don't get it.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link

i enjoyed the part where they took 30 seconds to come up with ideas for 80's club costume descriptors. the book had gone with "People were dressed like they were at an 80's club". it was they ended up with 6 or so unique looks like "Madonna-style fishnets and gloves" "Multiple leotards aerobics style w headbands" "punked up 50's pompadour", etc. the writer of this book seems incredibly lazy.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 00:50 (six years ago) link

Yeah, after listening to the intro episode I have my doubts: like mfktz, their total lack of knowledge and interest in books in general, and pathetically unfuuny jokes about same, makes me think these might be the least qualified guys to comment on anything in this sphere.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link

I'll try at least once more, because I loathe Cline that much, but it better improve.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link

why are you trying again? just don't listen to it sheesh

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link


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