David Lynch - Classic or Dud

Oh I've no doubt there's already twenty posts in the TP thread about it hey

It's probably significant here that Fire Walk with Me, which was Lynch's last word on the Twin Peaks universe until very recently, implies that Leland was considerably more abusive and symbiotically linked to BOB than the series lets on.

This is true, but on the other hand, FWWM also presents Deer Meadow, which is like a nastier version of Twin Peaks and … at the same time a whole lot lower down the socio-economic scale. Maybe it has a light underbelly we never get to see.

Carl is positively angelic in TP:TR

And I love Lynch, but I'm not sure he's done a lot for the image of hobos.

Carl is positively angelic in TP:TR

But he's moved his trailer park from Deer Meadow to Twin Peaks ha ha.

Recently saw Ellen Page accused of being an imperialist colonialist.

I think David Wants To Fly is probably the worst we'll see of Lynch.

Didn't Lynch's interview with the Palmer family suggest Leland was not guilty of abuse?

Given these elements of Lynch’s work, it is baffling that more people have not critiqued the filmmaker’s normative sensibilities.

I stopped reading the essay here, because I feel like critiques of Lynch's normative sensibilities have been a staple of the Lynch discourse for as long as I can remember. "Is David Lynch sexist/racist/exploitative" is probably the most well-worn corner of Lynch criticism. The essay's argument is a surface argument and it's fine as far as it goes, but plenty of ppl love Lynch who also find him troubling and sometimes indefensible. I mean, if you don't find him troubling I'm not sure what you even get from his work. Of course it's troubling.

Didn't Lynch's interview with the Palmer family suggest Leland was not guilty of abuse?

According to... Leland

Who was created by lynch!

wait a sec, does this refer to Gordon Cole interviewing the Palmers? xp

It was Lynch as himself interviewing the Palmer family for a special feature.

Horror troubling and bigotry troubling are very different reasons?

Watched Fire Walk With Me recently and wondered whether Sarah is somehow sleeping through Laura's screaming or if she's been ignoring the abuse.

i already know about "I am the FBI" ... very funny to hear of it choking up left-wing friends who may be on watchlists. :)

Sarah is somehow sleeping through Laura's screaming

this is the case, leland is drugging her

i already know about "I am the FBI" ... very funny to hear of it choking up left-wing friends who may be on watchlists. :)

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:33 AM (twenty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh no the cognitive dissonance i'm experiencing in this fictional story!!!!!!!!!!!

it's familiar, but it's still funny.

Horror troubling and bigotry troubling are very different reasons?

Sure, but not unconnected. A lot of fear is about the unknown/unfamiliar.

the FBI in Twin Peaks bears virtually no relationship to the actual irl FBI

It's probably worth noting the posts in the cosmic horror thread where people cogently explain why they wouldn't conflate Lynch's worldview with e.g. Lovecraft's.

like, enjoying that line has nothing to do with the actual FBI and everything to do with the character's position in this fictional universe

xxp

Since when has the context of a line of dialogue ever mattered? Since never, that's when.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmidwestcoastal.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F11%2Fdale-cooper-thumbs-up.png%3Fw%3D400%26h%3D550&f=1

the line in the article about Mike evoking otherness through his disability just seems wrong on many levels

Didn't he cut off his own arm to rid himself of BOB?

enjoying that line has nothing to do with the actual FBI and everything to do with the character's position in this fictional universe

YEAH THX I'M DUMB

christ i fucking hate this place sometimes

the FBI in Twin Peaks bears virtually no relationship to the actual irl FBI

wellllll, they have the same name...

sorta like the FBI in Mississippi Burning

I keep forgetting that David Lynch directed a Sparks video

I didn't know that! nuts

YEAH THX I'M DUMB

I think there's some Christian homily that applies here let's see if you can figure it out

I caught a lunch interview - think it was Charlie rose idk- yesterday from around the time of lost highway

Now I wanna watch more good lynch interviews. Any recommendations?

The documentary films the art life and lynch one and the quinoa video

It's not filmed, but Chris Rodley's series of interviews in Lynch on Lynch is essential reading.

Hmm the art life is available +#**around the place*#-+ y/n

Art Life is good

lynch one

you got me Shakey, i'm not a Christian anymore

Lapsed democrat

I keep forgetting that David Lynch directed a Sparks video

― streeps of range (wins), Thursday, August 31, 2017 2:04 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

WHAT

ikr

I haven't seen it

The director's identity seems to be in dispute, but you can draw yr own conclusions:

https://youtu.be/TH5USLpPa_0[

Sorry, that should be:

https://youtu.be/TH5USLpPa_0

@darragh - here are some sweet ones:

circa 1990, career overview, interviews Lynch & close associates, really really great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On02Z42mznc

circa 2005-06, behind the scenes & making of Inland Empire. lots of stuff about process
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG0OzpEjUPU

Ah lovely, thanks!

yeah no...

‘I Predict’ came with a striking video that fell foul of the conservatism of MTV. Directed in the style of David Lynch by group friends, identical twins and occasional actors Doug and Steve Martin, it is crammed full of strangeness. Shot in a dimly lit bar outside LA, Ron, in drag, develops the bride theme from the album’s cover with Russell still wearing the cover’s wedding suit. And Ron is stripping. And Russell is watching. Something is clearly not right. With the attendant promotion and the video’s notoriety, ‘I Predict’ reached number 60 on the Billboard Hot 100. Sparks had finally achieved a US Top 100 single after a decade of trying.

Talent Is An Asset: The Story Of Sparks
Daryl Ealesa

Doug Martin
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0552220/

Steve Martin
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0553094/

Just posted this in the TP thread

https://youtu.be/nu6BUQUDjII

And I know lots of people can't stand Mark Cousins, but this has some good moments

https://youtu.be/MIlmdLPUdpg

xpost: The Martin twins from that same year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRbeBV5UEZU

My bad, I was taking as my source the Sparks biography by Dave Thompson, which I've been re-skimming in anticipation of seeing them later this month. Pretty big thing for a biographer to get wrong!

that article posted up above is pretty lame. talk about starting from a bad premise and cherry picking evidence.

i do think there is something to be said for critics vicariously using Lynch as a scapegoat to work out/indulge some inner kinks and moral shaming but this guy seems to miss that point entirely.