that is to say, VG otm
― mh, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link
Eh I enjoyed this one too, even with its many awkwardnesses, although I hope Jason Isaacs's accent gets better.
And let's try and do an episode without an action sequence. No chases no fights no space bugs.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 2 October 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link
turns out i dont really want space monsters?i didnt know that til i was given them
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 01:07 (six years ago) link
this sounds stupid, think I'll pass. too bad as the first trailers looked great and I was intrigued by the cast.
― akm, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 03:18 (six years ago) link
Said this on the other thread but I think I like Orville better than this :/ Too much lens flare. Why are the Klingons Spe King So Slow ly. Pacing was weird (havent seen ep3 yet tho tbh).
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 05:43 (six years ago) link
Dorn apparently had trouble speaking through his fangs, but soldiered through. nu-klingon orthodontia is probably even harder to enunciate with.
Burnham Kirksplaining the brig computer into releasing her felt like a corn kernel of Trek had survived the digestive process.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link
iirc by trek rules any computer encountering logical contradictions has to destroy itself tho
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link
Speaking of corn kernels surviving, did anyone else notice they kept a few old-school sounds? Door openings, certain computer bleeps/comms bleeps?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link
I only saw it for a moment, but I believe they re-used the red alert graphic from the TMP Enterprise on the Shenzhou.
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 5 October 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
ah ha, found it:
http://trekcore.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/red-alert-696x354.jpg
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 5 October 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
Saw ep 3 finally, it was a lot better than the first 2. Still on the fence about all this tho.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 5 October 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link
Off the fence, I was done when their new super drive was navigated by tweaking the nipples of an alien dust mite.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 9 October 2017 10:33 (six years ago) link
Similarly off the STD boat. Humongous, card-carrying Trek dork here, but the oppressive negativity has been a serious turnoff. Troubled at the prospect of an intelligent creature being exploited against its will to power the ship's magical mushroom drive. Burnham looking constipated while crewmates lament "oh well, war" doesn't cut it.
― Millsner, Monday, 9 October 2017 11:00 (six years ago) link
The bar I have set is that first season TNG episode where the slug aliens take over starfleet high command and Picard has to trick them and kill them
― mh, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
Conspiracy? If only Discovery were that entertaining!
The parasite infiltration of Starfleet plot never got a follow-up because they morphed into the Borg in the writers' room.
― Millsner, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link
The dialogue is awful! "Who just saved us?" was lol bad.
the oppressive negativity has been a serious turnoff
Same. This has had a serious Oedipal complex about proving how much darker and more violent it is than its predecessors, with no charm whatsoever, nor any depth. Plus, the Starfleet officers are so dumb.
― Klingon T'Kuvma Why Don't You Love Mah? (Leee), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 06:01 (six years ago) link
The Michelle Yeoh cameo was comforting, a glimpse of what could've been. But the series is intent on killing such nostalgia, and replacing it with movie-quality protection values.
― Klingon T'Kuvma Why Don't You Love Mah? (Leee), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 06:07 (six years ago) link
throwing in Elon Musk with Zefram Cochrane, ugh
― louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 10:36 (six years ago) link
spores must flow
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 02:53 (six years ago) link
yeah i thought michael was an interesting character after the first 2 eps & now she’s as boring as the rest of them. the crew seem extraneous/unimportant which OK WHUT, there’s zero curiosity or starfleet level anything going on here i really do not know what it is i am watching spores tholotta sporesStar Trek: Spore Wars
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 05:46 (six years ago) link
the kid from my so-called life tho!
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 05:56 (six years ago) link
remember in the 90s when there would be two trek shows airing simultaneously? i think at this point if we ever want that to happen again we have to suck it up and pretend like this is the best show ever made and that cbs all access is a great idea oh if only i could afford it
― Flogging Mommy (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:21 (six years ago) link
As it's on Netflix elsewhere in the world, I'm not sure the success (or not*) of CBS All Access is a dealbreaker.
One bad episode in 4 is not a bad strike rate for Trek. Though I'm gonna hold on watching it for a few weeks in the hope things get better.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link
* definitely not
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link
spore travel would have negated most of TOS, TNG, and all of DS9, VOYAGER -- so it looks like the trajectory points to season finale timeline reset?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
I think we're going to end up with another Star Trek directive against a particular technology after this goes horribly awry
like, no genetic enhancement technology (KHAAAAAAN!), no time travel (temporal prime directive), no biophysics-based travel
― mh, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
i would imagine if she were aware that the tech existed at some point, janeway would've considered breaking whatever directive against its use. i think maybe discovery and its tech were ultra-top-secret and it wouldn't have been something future starfleet officers would know about
― Flogging Mommy (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link
I'd imagine creating a spore drive is not exactly trivial
― mh, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
you'd have to first turn the saucer section into a turntable.then you need a DJ.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
well yeah but it's something i'm sure they'd brainstorm. and since voyager takes place like 100 years later, they might have the technology to make a spore drive in less than 75 years
― Flogging Mommy (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
they did get mad at that other federation ship that was using hyper-dimensional aliens as super jet fuel.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
it's just a really big water bear
― mh, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link
i'm hoping that the series ends in a humanist "humans, vulcans, klingons, we're all just really big water bears, maaaaaaaaaan"
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link
you'd have to first turn the saucer section into a turntable.
This really didn't help me get over my thinking of a pizza slicer every time the ship appeared on screen (and I really like the ship) - I have no idea why revolving is necessary
As to the severe canon violation of this spore thing, I guess at some point all of these spore lifeforms are going to get wiped out, or it'll be mandated that using them as a propulsion system is unethical, or the spores will just turn on people and teleport them into the middle of a star every time they're forced to take anyone anywhere. But before that happens we have to have a character made of spores so it can have awkward conversations with people a la Persis Khambatta in Trek the Motion Picture
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link
the entire cast of TNG is actually spores who have taken new forms
― mh, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link
"You humans ... cannot be everywhere at once? It must be so ... limiting"
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link
x mh bwahhhhh hah ha, solves that canon problem then
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link
more like star trek human after all amirite
― Einstein, Bazinga, Sitar (abanana), Friday, 13 October 2017 09:34 (six years ago) link
The tardigrade breakdown just to let them go all Minority Report with their screen technology was seriously eye-roll inducing, still not as bad as the Clockwork Orange scene.
I'm watching CBS's new Navy SEAL show (as long as I'm borrowing a CBS All Access login...) and Discovery feels more similar to that than it does any prior Star Trek.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 16 October 2017 04:29 (six years ago) link
tardigrade warp "able to materialize anywhere in the universe" = warp 10, making this the second time warp 10 has been connected to animals
― Einstein, Bazinga, Sitar (abanana), Monday, 16 October 2017 07:23 (six years ago) link
In the new episode I counted them saying "DNA" 6 times which is voyager levels of technobabble. still, best episode yet.
― Einstein, Bazinga, Sitar (abanana), Monday, 16 October 2017 08:29 (six years ago) link
The spore drive tech is very Dune like. Spores = spice?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 16 October 2017 10:01 (six years ago) link
This show is officially bad, quantitatively speaking.
― (I'm not a robot.) (Leee), Monday, 16 October 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
I ... like this show.
― remy bean, Monday, 16 October 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link
Quantitatively speaking == there aren't enough episodes? But qualitatively it's fine?
― Mordy, Monday, 16 October 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link
The thing that I found most unbelievable in this one (out of a lot of generally unbelievable things) is that Starfleet would allow their one-of-a-kind, most-top-secret weapon-to-end-wars ship to take what could easily have been a one-way trip behind enemy lines to rescue Captain Ends J. Means
I kept hoping the admiral would say 'yep, consider him dead, we're not endangering the entire course of this war to to save one guy. In fact, if you do come across him, kill him yourself if he can't be extracted'
― Brakhage, Monday, 16 October 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
The mirror sting was pretty boss though
― Brakhage, Monday, 16 October 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link
Qualitatively this thing has been abysmal since the third episode, we've just got a majority of bad episodes now.
― (I'm not a robot.) (Leee), Monday, 16 October 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link
it's good enough that we're still watching it which is really the only relevant criteria for whether a show is good or bad
― Mordy, Monday, 16 October 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link
idk, I'm on the verge of hatewatching / praying to Q that it stops being repugnant.
― (I'm not a robot.) (Leee), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 00:42 (six years ago) link