Fuck, what a dick. Do you have any power to call him on it or report him to HR?
There's a rumour in our office about the CEO getting drunk and harassing women at events. The rumour has him being "over-flirty" but let's not bullshit. Really hoping someone is inspired by the week's events to report him. I'm leaving soon, so I'm preparing for full bridge-burning mode, and trying to work out the best strategy for challenging him before I go.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 16 October 2017 12:04 (seven years ago) link
leaving do, 12 of us. "let's just get one of each of the starters, share everything and split the bill"...
(plenty of vegetarian options so it turned out ok but... there were also people drinking and people not drinking. and then people were trying to pay with old pound coins (not legal tender since last friday))
― koogs, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 13:15 (seven years ago) link
finally found another position that opened up that I could feasibly do in this job. Posted for it today. if nothing else it shows my boss I'm srs, and pulls me out from being client-facing. which is 80% of my pain.
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link
yesterday I walked out of a conference call w/ client due to having a panic attack due to her bully-like behavior.
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link
oof that doesn't sound good, hope you're ok
― goole, Monday, 30 October 2017 20:46 (seven years ago) link
two guys who work near me, one is a dead ringer for john kasich and the other for michel foucault, and i do a triple take whenever i pass either one of them EVERY TIME
― goole, Monday, 30 October 2017 20:47 (seven years ago) link
i'm the stupid annoying coworker here lbc
typical text message exchange for me, usually once a week or so:
text from CEO: Hey can you email me that sales data?me: the one I send you every week on Mondays?CEO: Yesme: I sent it to you at 7am today. Did you get it?CEO: Yesme: And you need it again?CEO: Yesme: ??CEO: I don't have time to search for it in my email todayme: And if I send it to you now, you will be able to find it?CEO: Yes. And all these texts between us is taking me more time than it would have taken me to actually search for it.me: Uh, ok. CEO: thx
― Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Monday, 30 October 2017 21:52 (seven years ago) link
That sounds very familiar except it's "I accidentally deleted it as soon as I got it" instead of "don't have time to look"
― WilliamC, Monday, 30 October 2017 22:06 (seven years ago) link
u_ui got a “project” email that entailed sorting an excel spreadsheet. and that is all.
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 October 2017 22:39 (seven years ago) link
had another day today where I shut down. no idea how I can get through another day. waiting for recruiter to hopefully pass me to the pre-interview round.
our main client contact, let's just put it this way....
my colleague in the office today told me he was on a conference call during the evening before Irma, and he lives in Orlando too. they were demanding something on the weekend it was to hit and he mentioned something about having to get ready for the storm with his family.
and she remarked something like "he seems more interested in the weather than helping us"
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 01:39 (seven years ago) link
i got a “project” email that entailed sorting an excel spreadsheet. and that is all.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 02:15 (seven years ago) link
lol
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 02:16 (seven years ago) link
So having went back to work part-time after the upthread drama, I was offered a job at a smoothie stand in the mall by the manager who I'm quite pally with as a regular customer. Just a minimum wage job blending fruit and wiping surfaces to tide me over until I get myself sorted to go to uni or something.
It has been a disaster.
The team are all very lazy and last week they put a video of themselves on Whatsapp juggling the fruit we use. On my first shift the new area manager came and paid off the manager who offered me the job, apparently her retailing standards weren't good enough. Today she sacked the supervisor - no warnings or disciplinaries prior. I'm expected at the end of the day to lock up the stand by myself after one shift training how to do it, and locking up involves cashing up and carrying a few hundred quid to the bank by myself. This is a terrible job, isn't it?
― boxedjoy, Monday, 6 November 2017 14:07 (seven years ago) link
Sounds like you are on the fast track to running the whole show there.
― Moodles, Monday, 6 November 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link
there's always money in the smoothie stand
― mookieproof, Monday, 6 November 2017 20:16 (seven years ago) link
it is creepy, is it not, that a guy i'm supposed to meet about collaborating on some work for the next few weeks checked me linkedin profile the day i was put in touch with him?
coupled with the fact he is blase about meeting to begin this work we've both been asked to collaborate on, i'm feeling negative about him.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:34 (seven years ago) link
checked my* - wasn't intentionally channelling the leprechaun
I get asked to come in on my day off and then later get given out to for asking if there was coffee around when I needed something to wake me up . & apparently wasn't the only person to feel like that.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:57 (seven years ago) link
Hi everyone, this year the HR department will distribute a list containing the names and home addresses of all full-time employees to be used for personal Holiday mailings. This list will also include spouses’ names. If you would NOT like to be included on this list, please email your request to _____.
is this weird? i'm sure they mean well but this seems like a bizarre/potentially bad thing to do
― mookieproof, Thursday, 9 November 2017 22:52 (seven years ago) link
I know that heating up fish in the microwave makes the entire office smell like ass and pisses everyone off...but what if this is the time that doesn't happen?
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 22:56 (seven years ago) link
Xp that is fucking weird - it should be an opt-in thing, not an opt-out
― just1n3, Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link
Mookie yes that’s weird It should be opt in, not opt out
― calstars, Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:06 (seven years ago) link
Sounds like a well meaning but inexperienced HR dept there
― calstars, Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:07 (seven years ago) link
what are "personal Holiday mailings"?
― koogs, Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:07 (seven years ago) link
hella weird
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:12 (seven years ago) link
like horrifying
Yeah thats not good. What if someone's in a DV situation?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:32 (seven years ago) link
lol it came directly from the vp of hr, who has held that position since the company was founded 17 years ago. also such a list involves at least 1000 people
idk i mean if you want to give someone a christmas card you can like, hand it to them or something
― mookieproof, Friday, 10 November 2017 00:19 (seven years ago) link
Having to include "spouses' names" seems really weird. I suppose I probably filled in my next of kin somewhere but otherwise that is bizarre that they'd even have that on file
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 10 November 2017 00:32 (seven years ago) link
I would never think to send xmas cards to workmates at home, that just... wtf.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 10 November 2017 00:39 (seven years ago) link
Ya, I don’t even send out cards to people I like!
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 10 November 2017 01:06 (seven years ago) link
a coworker started a realty business & sent me a flyer at home - i fired off an email to her like don’t *ever* solicit me at home
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 November 2017 01:13 (seven years ago) link
that's just wrong. we wanted to send flowers to a co worker at home and hr wouldn't give us her address (rightly so)
― kinder, Friday, 10 November 2017 07:54 (seven years ago) link
That would be all kinds of illegal here regardless of opt in/out iirc
― Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Friday, 10 November 2017 09:08 (seven years ago) link
"have you had a chance to do that thing that's been blocking me for a week?""no. you just need to look at this component"
looks at this component, it is enormous and does many complicated things...
"ok. i think i need to do this, this and this. is that right?""yes. but can you hold off a bit because i'm also working on those files"
gah
we have a deadline two weeks from now. i've spent the last week waiting for this thing but the rest of the team has no sense of urgency at all, keep wandering off and doing other things. frustrating.
and why is this component written in 4 different languages?
― koogs, Friday, 10 November 2017 11:24 (seven years ago) link
once some post addressed to my home address appeared in my pigeonhole at work and I was v v v confused/unnerved
it was some political bumpf pretending to be personal mail, pastel-coloured envelope, fake handwriting font, etc
turned out a coworker I barely know who lived round the corner from me was a paid-up party member delivering leaflets and recognised my name and brought it to work
??
― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:55 (seven years ago) link
weird.
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 November 2017 04:38 (seven years ago) link
Posted in wrong forum, re posting.
Can someone give me advice on dealing with a work bully. I'm barely 2 months in a new job and the first day training with this person I was feeling sick, so they said "I don't want to babysit you" and "don't half ass it". In my first hour of training on their desk. Since then I've had this individual ask me if I'm sure I understand things I definitely do to today reaming me out for not knowing something, which I apologized for. So I told them I didn't appreciate the way they were talking to me and that there's better methods. They walked away angry. I get along with everyone else but their tone is notably different with me. There's a bully reporting hotline but that's not usually my style.
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 18 November 2017 00:46 (seven years ago) link
Also they go out of their way to correct me and find errors
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 18 November 2017 00:47 (seven years ago) link
I think your honesty with them was a start. It's difficult dealing with work bullies because when you're new, you want to lay low and learn the lay of the land first, and not come across as the "sensitive new guy", but the behavior you described is unacceptable bullshit, and somebody in charge needs to know about it.
All I'd do is self-report to your manager/agency that there was an incident, just honestly mention what you said and share your concerns, that you are looking forward to learning the process, but this type of behavior is making it difficult.
Often time work bullies feed on the idea that nobody will challenge them....sorry that you're having to deal with that!
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 November 2017 01:21 (seven years ago) link
Maybe he resents having to train someone? Some people are ok at their jobs but SHITE at training others with any patience - a few of my workmates can be snippy impatient cunts sometimes.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 18 November 2017 03:30 (seven years ago) link
This is also true. The first time I was promoted it was too soon and i took it out on my learners. Had to be told what an SOB i was being
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 November 2017 04:03 (seven years ago) link
If that person has productivity goals tied into their work, they might be just spraying the stress of all that onto you
It sounds like the kind of training I got in the commercial laundry I worked in, my first day they'd show me something and basically do everything short of actually stab me if I didn't do it exactly how they showed me and then say 'I'm not your babysitter, you need to figure this out' and I'm like I'VE BEEN HERE AN HOUR AND THESE MACHINES CAN CAUSE PHYSICAL HARM, BACK THE FUCK OFF.
Office is a bit different obviously. But one thing I learned is that the whole shitty bullying training thing is often a pose to make you think their work is more important than it really is. That THEY are more important. Sometimes there might be contributing factors like productivity goals, or huge workloads that you don't know about...and they're spraying that stress onto you.
Call it out. Get them to talk about their actual workday. Sometimes that can be a leveller.
But ultimately, it's their job to train you and if they don't like you asking questions, too fucking bad. That's how you learn. If they don't show you what to do in a way that helps you learn, tell them. If that pisses them off, oh well. That's a them problem, not a you problem.
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 November 2017 04:42 (seven years ago) link
above all you must remember that your worth as a person and is not measured by how much you struggle to adapt to a new and difficult workplace change.
One thing that helped me deal with the last place I worked was to keep in my head the idea of a "tolerance level" - have a clear idea of what is and isn't acceptable to you, and be firm when calling it out. Because it's otherwise easy to let things pass and slide and then that level adjusts and you find yourself in a far worse position (eg, "I'm really unhappy with how this person spoke to me but I suppose I can let it go this one time" gives them permission to do it again)
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 18 November 2017 08:38 (seven years ago) link
^yes, this exactly
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 November 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link
Maybe he resents having to train someone? Some people are ok at their jobs but SHITE at training others
Memories of one brief job (two weeks!) spent watching longingly at the other new person being trained one team over. They'd been paired with a bouncy, chatty, fellow who was really excited about the system and knew how it all worked big picture style. I was paired with a (lovely) taciturn fellow who was clearly expert in the job but just ...
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 18 November 2017 16:04 (seven years ago) link
I would also add to the advice about the bully - keep a diary with dates and contexts
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 18 November 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link
Thank you everyone, you've made me feel a lot better. I'm still thinking this one through but yeah in regards to productivity goals, this job is very much heads down and work hard and the whole thing runs like a well oiled machine. I like that, just I'm a peaceful guy and definitely agree with the knowing Yr worth angle. Cheers
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 18 November 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link
Just seconding cardamom--document EVERYTHING
Best of luck, Ross, and hope it gets sorted
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 20 November 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link