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President Keyes, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

no britishers say "maths"

And yet this fucking annoying advert is currently being inflicted on Britishes TV viewers...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qwLe_EDiaA

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

I hope it catches on and Microsoft retrains the UK :)

mh, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link

How about "cyber-" as a prefix signifying information technology or the internet? Grates on me every time, like some clueless high level manager who's never used a computer trying to sound like his/her business is ready for the information age. "Cyber-bullying", "cyber-security", AARGH it's not even what the term MEANS.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

is there ever an occasion to say "female" or "females" outside the context of something scientific or statistical?

phenibut rock (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link

when you are learning a language w gendered nouns

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link

Didactic context is fine. But as a substitute for woman/women, generally crepey

phenibut rock (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link

Proof of creepiness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m9m5-n-aP8

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link

... Jesus, that song is terrible, apologies to everyone.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

the stranglers were terrible, the clue is in the name

mark s, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

and in john mcternan editing a fanzine dedicated to their oeuvre

mark s, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

I bet McTernan liked Magnum as well, and had "mixtape" C-90's that he labelled "various good stuff"!

calzino, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link

How about "cyber-" as a prefix signifying information technology or the internet? Grates on me every time, like some clueless high level manager who's never used a computer trying to sound like his/her business is ready for the information age.

Its even worse now, clueless older white politicians and whatnot just saying things like "we will focus on cyber". Just the word cyber. On its own. MEANINGLESS TWADDLE

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:35 (six years ago) link

I believe it is now called "the cyber."

piezoelectric landlord (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 November 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link

As far as the cyber, I agree to parts of what Secretary Clinton said. We should be better than anybody else, and perhaps we’re not. I don’t think anybody knows that it was Russia that broke into the DNC. She’s saying Russia, Russia, Russia—I don't, maybe it was. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay? (...) We came in with the Internet. We came up with the Internet. And I think Secretary Clinton and myself would agree very much, when you look at what ISIS is doing with the Internet, they’re beating us at our own game. ISIS. So we had to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is a huge problem. I have a son—he’s 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers. It’s unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe, it's hardly doable. But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing. But that’s true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester. And certainly cyber is one of them.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link

nnnrrghrghhhh *twitch*

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 November 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link

aaaaaaAAAARGH

attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 9 November 2017 01:42 (six years ago) link

nnnrrghrghhhh *twitch*

― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, November 8, 2017 4:26 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i kind of instinctively do this any time i see trump on tv

brimstead, Thursday, 9 November 2017 01:53 (six years ago) link

fwiw, the use of cyber you're annoyed by was promulgated by people clipping the older "cyberspace" down to "cyber", after which it lost some of its definitional boundaries and has floating further and further into vague hand waving toward "something-something internet blah-blah-blah".

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 9 November 2017 01:59 (six years ago) link

a/s/l?

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 01:59 (six years ago) link

lol I havent heard that in years!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 November 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link

"the cyber" is instantly funny to me for some reason

mh, Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link

https://youtu.be/M-iwT86kIWo

The Suite Life of Jack and Wendy (wins), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

The misuse/misunderstanding of "nonplussed." I searched the thread convinced this would already be mentioned but there's just one use of it in here and it's incorrect. "Nonplussed" does not mean indifferent, aloof, or disinterested. It means surprised/perplexed/confused. OED:

1. So surprised and confused that one is unsure how to react.
‘Henry looked completely nonplussed’

the incorrect usage of the word is the second entry, listed as "North American / Informal." what a strange way of saying WRONG

flappy bird, Monday, 13 November 2017 00:16 (six years ago) link

Does nonplus perplex you? You aren't alone. Some people believe the "non" in nonplus means "not" and assume that to be nonplussed is to be calm and poised when just the opposite is true. If you are among the baffled, the word's history may clarify things. In Latin, non plus means "no more." In the earliest known uses, which date to the 16th century, it was used as a noun synonymous with quandary. Someone brought to a nonplus had reached an impasse in an argument and could say no more. Within a few decades of the first known use of the noun, people began using nonplus as a verb, and today it is often used in participial form with the meaning "perplexed" (as in "Joellen's nasty remark left us utterly nonplussed").

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nonplus

El Tomboto, Monday, 13 November 2017 00:19 (six years ago) link

wait until 2030 when both meanings have equal standing

language evolves, in ways we don’t like or want to accept, and seeing it happen is a marker you’re old

mh, Monday, 13 November 2017 00:19 (six years ago) link

"Nonplussed" does not mean indifferent, aloof, or disinterested.

This is the first time I've ever heard of this definition, but I'm not North American and informal.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Monday, 13 November 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link

lol

I like to think whoever wrote the BBC styleguide entry on Americanisms did it in one sitting, filled with rage pic.twitter.com/5JFMmJE0tS

— Dave Lee (@DaveLeeBBC) October 25, 2017

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 13 November 2017 04:01 (six years ago) link

but then it ends with ‘eg’ followed by ‘etc.’

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 13 November 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link

showwhatnow?

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Monday, 13 November 2017 04:11 (six years ago) link

Never heard an American say "post a total" (of runs). What is this?

Shopping center & shopping mall are different things in America.

No American has ever said "to rubbish."

Josefa, Monday, 13 November 2017 04:12 (six years ago) link

I shudder to think what might happen if I shouted OUSTER in the town square

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Monday, 13 November 2017 04:21 (six years ago) link

robin hood wld punch you in the bollox

ch ch cheerio

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 13 November 2017 04:33 (six years ago) link

wait until 2030 when both meanings have equal standing

language evolves, in ways we don’t like or want to accept, and seeing it happen is a marker you’re old

― mh, Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:19 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this isn't like the abuse of "literally." this isn't popular culture or the 'everyman' molding language. most uses of "nonplussed" are in writing by writers trying to sound smart and the fact that it means the exact opposite of what they think it means, and that it's so obvious why everyone gets it wrong, makes it particularly irritating.

flappy bird, Monday, 13 November 2017 07:37 (six years ago) link

I think the nonplussed war is already over at this point

I've been banging on about it for years

Number None, Monday, 13 November 2017 08:44 (six years ago) link

I can't describe how I feel about the issue

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 09:24 (six years ago) link

i'm thinking chalant

mark s, Monday, 13 November 2017 09:45 (six years ago) link

my theory re the misuse of nonplussed is that it sort of rhymes with "not fussed" so ppl think it means that?

The Suite Life of Jack and Wendy (wins), Monday, 13 November 2017 09:53 (six years ago) link

similarly "craven" means cowardly but about half the time I see it used ppl seem to think it means something more like "brazen", again I'm going with the "it kind of rhymes" theory

I'm against prescriptivism in general but when ppl get the meanings of words wrong I reserve the right to drop a "you keep using that word..."

The Suite Life of Jack and Wendy (wins), Monday, 13 November 2017 09:57 (six years ago) link

yeah, there's nothing wrong with telling people to use words malaproperly

the intentional phallusy (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2017 10:02 (six years ago) link

nb I reserve the right but it's not like I exercise it often

basically if you're having a normal conversation with someone & they think "enormity" means enormousness you are a dick if you butt in & correct them, but if you're being subjected to a a prolix op-ed by some windbag and they keep making that error there is some value in being that dick

The Suite Life of Jack and Wendy (wins), Monday, 13 November 2017 10:10 (six years ago) link

otm

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 11:28 (six years ago) link

You little prolix

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 11:29 (six years ago) link

I am on record as prioritizing audience-awareness and context-awareness WAY above right/wrong. In any given writing/editing task, I follow the rules that I think the audience cares about. Or rather, I follow the style guidance that tends to produce text that the audience will read without being distracted either by real, or apparent, wrongness.

Also I agree with wins. You generally don't help matters by correcting casual conversation but it can be enjoyable to point and laugh at windbags.

The crankiness level of that BBC thing made me smile. I should say that the USian meaning of "power cut" is a totally different thing - it's a physical feature of the landscape (trees cut down to facilitate passage of power lines), not an electrical outage.

piezoelectric landlord (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 November 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link

"power cut" sounds like an industry term for something like a Rush song from the mid-80s

President Keyes, Monday, 13 November 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link

it's also a Wings song from 1973!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 November 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link

I have never heard of tree trimming around power lines as a "power cut" in my life. It's just tree trimming.

mh, Monday, 13 November 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

or a specific hairstyle imp

mh, Monday, 13 November 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link


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