if i want the meltdown/spectre patch does that mean i need to upgrade to high sierra? is apple going to patch older versions as well? seems like they should since this bug goes back 20 years.
― 龜, Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link
Sierra is still getting security fixes I think
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:29 (six years ago) link
following
this article seems like a good overview but does not answer your questions
https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/03/kernel-panic-what-are-meltdown-and-spectre-the-bugs-affecting-nearly-every-computer-and-device/
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link
if i'm reading this right it was fixed last month (to the extent possible, lol) in high sierra, sierra and el capitan
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT208331
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link
The shittiness of autocorrect on iOS 11.2 is driving me fucking crazy with all the capitalizations.
Just so utterly bad.
― Alan Watts (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 4 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link
thanks caek, that's good to know.
has anybody found out if iPhones are affected? seemed like ARM chips are affected as well, I wonder if Apple's custom silicon walled it off.
― 龜, Thursday, 4 January 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link
Fuck, they fixed it in Sierra? I finally upgraded to HS because of this
― stet, Thursday, 4 January 2018 21:54 (six years ago) link
i'm still holding off upgrading to HS because I have a few random 32bit apps I don't want to lose the ability to use. What am I supposed to do????
― dan selzer, Thursday, 4 January 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link
only run software that you trust and keep your web browser updated to avoid javascript attacks
the main risk here is shared-use machines, especially virtual machines in hosting environments. there are some (impressive) javascript proof of concepts that do similar tricks with latency to try to mine memory, but that's a separate issue and the main browsers have already made changes to block that kind of behavior. and that's already been out there for quite a while
if you don't actually run software that has an attack in it, and your machine isn't set up to run someone else's code, you're pretty unlikely to be at risk. and if you're running random untrusted programs to begin with, you likely have larger problems
― mh, Thursday, 4 January 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link
the huge-ass risk here was that someone would unleash an attack on a cloud provider, or any shared host where they could legitimately run an executable, and then dump memory from processes they shouldn't have access to. the main attack target is going to be servers, not client machines
― mh, Thursday, 4 January 2018 22:18 (six years ago) link
The shittiness of autocorrect on iOS 11.2 is driving me fucking crazy with all the capitalizations. Just so utterly bad.
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Friday, 5 January 2018 05:11 (six years ago) link
i use Gboard, which is basically the same thing as SwiftKey? i think? with extras gifs??
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 January 2018 09:07 (six years ago) link
my ios has decided super MARIO has to be screamed for some reason
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 5 January 2018 09:48 (six years ago) link
Gboard is good, and free. All hail Google.
― Alba, Friday, 5 January 2018 10:05 (six years ago) link
My current and ongoing homicidal level iOS hate is that if it autocorrects to something capitalised, which is utterly wrong, when I delete that word to retype it, it has the shift engaged for capitalising even if I never pressed it in the first place WTF.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 5 January 2018 11:44 (six years ago) link
^this
― The Harmony Illustrated Encyclopedia of Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 January 2018 11:46 (six years ago) link
Yeah :(
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 5 January 2018 11:52 (six years ago) link
YeAh
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Friday, 5 January 2018 12:12 (six years ago) link
is this an English-only problem? I haven't run into it yet in French, in which I write about half of my iOS text. but I'm seeing it in English for sure.
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 5 January 2018 12:39 (six years ago) link
HEADS UP #macadmins : Apple JUST updated https://t.co/enQVRINXR3 today (Jan 5th) and REMOVED mention of 10.12 and 10.11 being fixed for CVE-2017-5754 aka #MeltdownOnly 10.13.2 contains the fix.— mikeymikey (@mikeymikey) January 5, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:23 (six years ago) link
not Apple specific but I aaw a couple “enable this setting in chrome!” Twitter posts retweeted today that definitely have shit-all to do with this problem but claimed they were related. and came from “security” accounts
we’re still at “reboot twice, edit registry/these two config files” public literacy
― mh, Saturday, 6 January 2018 05:26 (six years ago) link
That’s all I do
― The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Saturday, 6 January 2018 06:46 (six years ago) link
Are you talking about enabling "strict site isolation" as per this, mh? That's the chrome setting I've been seeing mentioned and thought it was legit https://www.google.co.uk/amp/mashable.com/2018/01/04/google-chrome-spectre-precaution-meltdown.amp
― Alba, Saturday, 6 January 2018 07:06 (six years ago) link
I generally like iCloud, it serves my purposes well, but wholefuckgoddamit why doesn't icloud.com remember my goddamn password ever, even if I check remember me. I have to do the fucking dual authentication almost every fucking time.
― Jeff, Saturday, 6 January 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link
I tried SwiftKey for an hour and I just deleted it
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 6 January 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link
I finally let my phone update to iOS 11 last night; was overjoyed this morning when I saw that the lock screen now shows the time in large type even when music is playing. That's been my biggest wish since they did away with it however many years ago. Now if they'd only move the power button back to the top I could maybe love these phones again.
― early rejecter, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:55 (six years ago) link
I exchanged my X for a 7 Plus. Wider screen is better for reading and watching video...and sorry but swiping up in place of a home button just blows
― calstars, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link
I had to manually power down/restart my phone for the uh, second time since I bought it. It's restarted for updates, but other than that, I've had my X running continuously.
It took me a moment to remember how to turn off the darn thing.
― mh, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link
really? I've gotten used to the swiping/task changer and it's less awkward than a button press by now
― mh, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link
damn. think im holding out with my 6+ (getting new $29 battery in a couple days) til i see what's up w their new lineup at the end of this year.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link
Not to mention the particular finger dexterity now required by the X to force quit apps
― calstars, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:41 (six years ago) link
It’s more like a magician’s move than anything else. I dare anyone to execute it successfully 5 times in a row.
― calstars, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
Swipe up and leftPress and hold finger on appPress no entry sign
How is that difficult? Am I missing something?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link
http://s2.dmcdn.net/Mb9pK.jpg
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link
i don't miss the home button at all. i thought i would and yeah jeez i have never turned the X off myself--just checked, that's intuitive too, left and right buttons, tapface id is still kind of shit though
― alomar lines, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 04:30 (six years ago) link
voice dictation on iphones is fucking useless. always wrong words, usually wrong words that don’t make any contextual sense, transcription usually kicks in 3 seconds after you start talking. literally quicker to type a ream of text than try four failed voice dictations in a row.there is no reason for this six year old tech to be so fucking terrible. google nails it.
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 04:37 (six years ago) link
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/01/21/apple-iphone-x-buy-sales-specs-new-iphone-release-date/#490ff27e10cb
Goodbye iPhone X, we hardly knew ye
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 22 January 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link
hm wow glad i held off
― Spottie, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:05 (six years ago) link
probably a stupid question but will they go on sale?
― the late great, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link
might not if they are cutting off production early but not sure
― Spottie, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link
I have two ipod classics. The old one which I bought about ten years ago in nyc does not sync with my itunes library anymore. Apparently the battery pack is broken. I go to the Apple store in Berlin on a Saturday, i get an appointment ten days later, they are so busy. When i come to the appointment, the guy just plugs the ipod in his apple computer and tells me that it does not sync anymore and that they cannot do anything about it. Later on i find out that there are repair shops - who are not linked to apple - who replace broken battery packs for 49 euros. I also "like" the apple jargon "vintage" for products which are not produced anymore. They do not really offer any support more for them, they are only good for the museum in their eyes. I will hopefully never buy an apple product again.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 22 January 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link
it sucks because there's still no viable replacement for the Classic on the market. I've still got mine and I'm dreading the day it dies. that said those 3rd party repair shops are usually quite good, that's the route I would go if I were you
― frogbs, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link
ive got a dead 4th gen ipod i should look into getting it fixed up.
― Spottie, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link
honestly expecting a 10 year old piece of electronic equipment to be supported is kinda insane imo. ipods are not cast iron frying pans handed down from one generation to the next.
― 龜, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
the thing is they're still wildly popular and Apple has yet to come out with a viable replacement for them.
― frogbs, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link
Having trouble following the logic of this in the Forbes article:
Meanwhile, I’d argue it’s a smart move canceling the iPhone X because its design will remain a flagship option (the 6.1-inch model is priced like the iPhone 8) rather than being discounted at one year old. Consequently, the 2017 iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus will then take the role of cheaper understudies bringing simplification to a range, that has become increasingly convoluted in recent years.
― Luna Schlosser, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:37 (six years ago) link
When they say "its design" do they mean in the form of a newer iPhone model that will have aspects of the X's design? If so, it makes sense.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 22 January 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link
― frogbs, Monday, January 22, 2018 5:34 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark
wildly popular among a niche audience of enthusiasts you mean?
― 龜, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link
yeah cant see the average person caring about classic ipods. everyone (mostly) has a phone with the same function (and more) at this point.
― Spottie, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link
for a 10 year old piece of hardware I'd say they're pretty popular
― frogbs, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link