why are you trying again? just don't listen to it sheesh
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link
Unlike most Rifftrax, listening to this would take longer than reading RP1.
If there's interesting discussion to be had about RP1, I think it would be less on its obvious flaws, than on why it attracted a readership by word-of-mouth. There can't be that many nostalgic Gen Xers or cyberpunk fans with low standards. There's no shortage of other post-collapse, anti-corporatist screeds. Does the teen/YA market care about Devo and *Wargames*?
It's been a while since I've followed cyberpunk, but I seem to recall other, better written, Willie Wonka in The Sprawl novels. Maybe Vurt could have sold millions had it been grounded in familiar IPs.
― Acanthonus armatus (Sanpaku), Thursday, 1 February 2018 00:49 (six years ago) link
There can't be that many nostalgic Gen Xers or cyberpunk fans with low standards.
Pixels grossed $245m, just saying.
Also yeah, a lot of people don't really apply any critical thinking - I've had a lot of pretty 'normy' people say that this is an entertaining book that they really enjoyed.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 February 2018 10:47 (six years ago) link
why it attracted a readership by word-of-mouth
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 February 2018 11:43 (six years ago) link
shd've been word-of-mouthbreather, surely?
― bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 February 2018 11:45 (six years ago) link
If there's interesting discussion to be had about RP1, I think it would be less on its obvious flaws, than on why it attracted a readership by word-of-mouth
it didn't though. this is one of the main points of the podcast, that it got rave reviews in the New York Times and AV Club and tons of publications as "book of the year". it's a mass marketed book that got big because that's what mass market books do
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link
If there's interesting discussion to be had about RP1, it seems it will be about the film.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:18 (six years ago) link
that’s a big ‘if’
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link
I agree with Morbious. I didn't hate this book nearly as much as the rest of you though I do think it is overpraised and has some obvious problems; but if anyone can make a good film out of this and make use of the nostalgia aspects, it is Spielberg.
― akm, Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:04 (six years ago) link
as for making a good film out of a shit novel, see Jaws
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link
or Die Hard
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link
if anyone can make a good film out of this and make use of the nostalgia aspects, it is Spielberg
he hasn't exactly been on a golden run of late, though, is the thing
― Simon H., Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link
he's just made the best film ever according to a poster I saw on the side of a bus
― bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link
I thought Lincoln and Bridge of Spies were great
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:31 (six years ago) link
I don't rate Crichton much eitherCmon tho everything about this is so unpromising - "killer shark" is a premise that inherently has more potential for an entertaining film than like "what if funko pops" or whatever the premise of this garbage is
― scrüt (wins), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link
I'm not going cos I don't own a blacklight and I will need assurances that the seats haven't been befouled with the loinjuices of Gen X nerds prior to sitting down.
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link
Crichton created some of the greatest compulsively readable sci-fi/thriller nonsense ever imo, love him
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link
he was definitely a grinder when it came to doing research prior to writing his novels
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:42 (six years ago) link
Lincoln was good but BoS was just passable and you couldn't pay me to watch the two that followed
― Simon H., Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link
Spielberg movies are like Van Morrison albums; there's one every fucking year and I forget it exists two minutes after I'm told about it.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link
I'm not even a hater but the guy makes a shitload of films so I usually feel ok skipping over the odd one that appears calculated to be as unappealing to me as possible
― scrüt (wins), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
that's nice
he'll survive
xp
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
"what if funko pops" hahaha
― akm, Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNtySt6Fg30
― somebody toucha my fgti (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link
lol
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link
will the movie be better than 2 hours of this
Here's the official trailer for READY PLAYER ONE: pic.twitter.com/0rQnUE5LdK— Neil Cicierega (@neilcic) July 22, 2017
― frogbs, Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link
Dr Morbius, it seems like a thing that would make this interesting would be if it includes some element of reflection or even just commentary, on Spielberg's part, on his movies' place in current culture. Do you think he's got that in him?
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link
I think he did that (sort of) as far back as 1941 (spoofing himself w/ shark/submarine opening).
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link
Yeah and as dlh said above Jurassic park is full of that kinda stuffI don't think that would be enough for me personally in this case
― scrüt (wins), Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link
i like Spielberg but I haven't been super enthusiastic about too many of his post-WOTW/Munich flicks. Lincoln was good but I don't remember much about it beyond DDL and a couple scenes w/Bruce McGill and Michael Stuhlbarg.
― omar little, Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link
Spielberg's biggest contribution to Lincoln was arguably staying out of Tony Kushner and DDL's way. A higher mawkish sentimentality content could have ruined it.
― Acanthonus armatus (Sanpaku), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
at this stage spielberg is basically a menace
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link
the post and this as a one-two punch of diametrically opposed utter garbage
i kinda judge him a bit harshly on what he chooses to executive produce. leaning real heavy on the Transformers pics there, Steven.
Crystal Skull/Tintin/War Horse/Lincoln/Bridge of Spies/BFG/Post/RPO is about as "inspired" a run as Ridley Scott's having, which is to say kinda boring projects executed w/enough skill to make the best written ones "good" but that's about it.
― omar little, Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:28 (six years ago) link
arguably staying out of Tony Kushner and DDL's way
oh, nuts
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link
jurassic park is about chasing beauty and making art, things spielberg understands better than he does american history. potential themes of this movie: escapism, nostalgia, the artist as opium slinger enlisted by deadening oppressive regime, decadent kids playing in recombinated trash like they're... making indiana jones, i guess there's an absent father figure there too. could still very well be just totally hateful but this is certainly more promising material for this partic artist than the washington post.
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link
pretty dismissive of Hillary Clinton's all-time leading donor
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link
*kisses fingers* perfection morbz
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link
i kinda judge him a bit harshly on what he chooses to executive produce.
The fact that he seems to be responsible for putting Shia le Bouef in the public eye is pretty damning all by itself
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link
Ah no, I don't mean signs and hints for the people watching these films that have seen Spielberg films, I mean it being (I understand) a feature of the story that the people in this film have seen Spielberg films.
But then, I can't think of any film-maker who's done that except maybe Kevin Smith? I don't watch a lot of Kevin Smith.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:45 (six years ago) link
goddammit this poster is literally just "HEY REMEMBER THIS STUFF?"it's too dumb to even get mad at, it's just the silliest and most obvious attempt to appeal to the lowest common denominator of "nerd culture"and it's gonna work, too. this bullshit is gonne make SO MUCH MONEY pic.twitter.com/oQWcRteDMz— COOL BEANS (@RikiCreem) February 19, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 19 February 2018 20:52 (six years ago) link
I don't think it will. The new (to me) trailer before BP got no response at all. Uncle Drew, on the other hand...
― El Tomboto, Monday, 19 February 2018 20:55 (six years ago) link
I can’t imagine anyone young enough to want to see this is gonna know what Bigfoot is
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 19 February 2018 20:55 (six years ago) link
mainly i’m just annoyed that the poor blameless iron giant, star of one of the best animated movies of the last quarter-century, is getting dragged into this
― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 19 February 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link
and the 1978 Gundam. Don't they know these kids grew up on Gundam Wing, which is a totally separate continuity
― El Tomboto, Monday, 19 February 2018 20:57 (six years ago) link
I don't have my pulse on the finger of the dork community the way I used to but I have yet to encounter a single person who seems excited for this movie, if it totally flops I would not be surprised
― frogbs, Monday, 19 February 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link
lol the faces on that poster. nobody looks like they are having fun.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 February 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/GHZLPJs.gif
that's not how VR works
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 February 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link
in the future every kid still wears skinny jeans and sneakers
― El Tomboto, Monday, 19 February 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link
it’s retro!
― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 19 February 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link