not worse than "the wife" though
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 12 March 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link
"it's a brave new world"
― thots and players (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 00:06 (six years ago) link
thank god the wife never says hubby
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 00:19 (six years ago) link
Wow, I never realized how many people use good faith and bad faith until this board. But yeah those are both super annoying.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:32 (six years ago) link
I don't think I've used either until the past year but they're both better than "concern trolling" which irritates me to no end
― mh, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 13:42 (six years ago) link
https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13051443.jpg
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61oXBE3oLtL._SX355_.jpg
― how's life, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 14:04 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link
"concern trolling" only irritates me when it's used outside its actual meaning (which is all the time)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:33 (six years ago) link
goddam that Sartre dude and his jargon
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link
I'm old and think half the problem is people who enjoy provoking reactions but have no actual stance or investment in anything they're saying
― mh, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link
guilty
― valorous wokelord (silby), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link
i think most people who enjoy provoking reactions have no investment, hence the enjoyment
in fact you could say that such people acted in bad faith
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link
hubby
― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Monday, March 12, 2018 2:55 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm prescient (apologies for daily mail link)
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article.../Radio-4-listeners-reveal-phrases-STAND.html
― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:32 (six years ago) link
i think most people who enjoy provoking reactions have no investment, hence the enjoymentin fact you could say that such people acted in bad faith― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:50 AM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Finnegans woke (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:50 AM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
in another word, disingenuous
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link
― mh, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:40 (fifty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i dont think you actually believe that tbh
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link
"There's already a word for it" makes it seem like you think the very common and old phrase "bad faith" is some sort of faddish neologism?
― scotti pruitti (wins), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link
it's certainly spiked in use recently
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:38 (six years ago) link
Ah so if more people had started saying the word disingenuous recently would you be complaining and telling them to use the perfectly good synonym "bad faith" the
― scotti pruitti (wins), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link
n
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=%22bad%20faith%22
― how's life, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:42 (six years ago) link
no because the word disingenuous doesn't annoy the shit out of me
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link
As used on CNN 24 hours a day now, "breaking news."
― clemenza, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link
Disingenuous doesn't mean the same as "in bad faith" and certainly not in the example I gave
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
what's the word on bad medicine
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link
I heard your love was like it
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link
“Creatives” is the tech synonym for “artists” that no one asked for
― flappy bird, Saturday, March 10, 2018 6:09 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I always thought this was more of a way to make non-artist media professionals feel like artists by lumping them in with artists.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link
If you’re hearing “bad faith” a lot you might reflect on why.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link
lol
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link
can't find the excelsior thread
― F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link
“Creatives” is the tech synonym for “artists” that no one asked for― flappy bird, Saturday, March 10, 2018 6:09 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkI always thought this was more of a way to make non-artist media professionals feel like artists by lumping them in with artists.― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:19 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:19 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes this too
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link
Disingenuous doesn't mean the same as "in bad faith" and certainly not in the example I gave― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:04 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:04 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sure it does, "provoking a reaction for the fun of it" is being disingenuous, or insincere.
If you’re hearing “bad faith” a lot you might reflect on why.― Mordy, Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:23 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Mordy, Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:23 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well, I do read ILX a lot
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link
"How do you feel about that?"
Feelings got us into this mess
― kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:36 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's half the problem, but it's also half the solution
― mh, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/435111/how-do-you-say-come-on-man-to-a-woman
I've heard people saying phrases like down below."That's not cool, man""Dude, look at this""Hey, calm down, bro"But these words are supposed to be said to a male person. (I could be wrong since I'm not an native English speaker) So what word do you use instead to say those phrases to a female person?
"That's not cool, man""Dude, look at this""Hey, calm down, bro"
But these words are supposed to be said to a male person. (I could be wrong since I'm not an native English speaker) So what word do you use instead to say those phrases to a female person?
some sad and lol answers to this. "We expect and prefer to be treated like ladies. "Dude, guy, man, bro" -- when spoken to a lady, are considered low-class here." or the person who offers this translation guide:
“That’s not cool, man” → “That’s not cool sis.”“Dude, look at this!” → “Girl, look at this!”“Hey, calm down, bro” → “Sister. Calm down.”
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link
dude is very close to becoming unisex ime. man was originally general neutral too!
Before “man” meant a male, the word “wer” or “wǣpmann” was commonly used to refer to “male human”. This word almost completely died out around the 1300s, but survives somewhat in words like “werewolf”, which literally means “man wolf”.Women at the time were referred to as “wif” or “wīfmann“, meaning “female human”. The latter “wifmann”, eventually evolved into the word “woman”, but retained its original meaning. The word “wif” itself eventually evolved into “wife”, with its meaning obviously being changed slightly.
Women at the time were referred to as “wif” or “wīfmann“, meaning “female human”. The latter “wifmann”, eventually evolved into the word “woman”, but retained its original meaning. The word “wif” itself eventually evolved into “wife”, with its meaning obviously being changed slightly.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link
it's because if you are designing logos for a company you are doing something different than when you go home and paint or play with samplers or whatever on your own free time.
also it makes sense to say "We have a creative department". it sounds like they are making various things for various purposes. it also sounds productive. "art" conjures up the singular idea "work of art", which is a self-fulfilling object. "We have an art department" sounds like you have people that make individual works of art.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link
xpost Woah! That's wild, can't believe I never ran into that before.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 22:10 (six years ago) link
that is a graphic designer. i understand the intent of the phrase, it still makes my skin crawl because it is unnecessary, and even worse when it's used to refer to actual artists.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 22:14 (six years ago) link
Personally I don't mind if writers, copyeditors, graphic designers, and web designers get called "creatives" or "creative professionals." It's a useful distinction from the "business side" like ad salespeople or whatever. Calling them "artists" is usually overkill.
In my youth I was a "production artist" - basically newspaper / newsletter / magazine layout - for something like $8 an hour. While there was certainly creative work involved, calling it art would have been rather grand.
If what you object to is the nouning of an adjective, you can use "creative professionals," but I think that won't stay wieldy for long.
Verbing and nouning and such is a venerable tradition in English, as even a cursory glance at a dictionary will tell you.
― I leprecan't even. (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link
https://thelawdictionary.org/good-faith/https://thelawdictionary.org/bad-faith/
― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link
you know ive had my share
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link
I know what it means to be a loan...
― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link
xpost yeah lol i dislike the words "artist" and find it bougie and self important. art isnt something common people should be alienated from, which tends to be the case.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:33 (six years ago) link
Yes, let's use 'creatives' instead.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:38 (six years ago) link
yeah, and maths and science and sports and woodwork
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:38 (six years ago) link
xp
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:39 (six years ago) link
it's important not to alienate people from things that are good for them, i think we should call doctors "ouch mechanics"
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:40 (six years ago) link
teachers could be "school cops"
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:42 (six years ago) link
well, that'd make it easier to justify arming them for sure
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:52 (six years ago) link
that's what i was thinking
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:57 (six years ago) link