you know ive had my share
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link
I know what it means to be a loan...
― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link
xpost yeah lol i dislike the words "artist" and find it bougie and self important. art isnt something common people should be alienated from, which tends to be the case.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:33 (six years ago) link
Yes, let's use 'creatives' instead.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:38 (six years ago) link
yeah, and maths and science and sports and woodwork
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:38 (six years ago) link
xp
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:39 (six years ago) link
it's important not to alienate people from things that are good for them, i think we should call doctors "ouch mechanics"
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:40 (six years ago) link
teachers could be "school cops"
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:42 (six years ago) link
well, that'd make it easier to justify arming them for sure
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:52 (six years ago) link
that's what i was thinking
― as the crows around me grows (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 12:57 (six years ago) link
I am never saying 'fake news' ever again, even in jest.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link
tbh i don't mind being called an artist for rewriting your fuck-awful prose, in fact i demand it
― mark s, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link
the notion of common, normal or regular people is not to be accepted
― ogmor, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link
7 billion legernds
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link
mrs yanis varoufakis, ogmor is calling u out itt
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link
any reference to or spin on 'taking my talents to miami'
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link
it's important not to alienate people from things that are good for them
your zings missed my point. it's not about alienating people from consuming art but creating it. similar to the alienation of workers from the fruits of their labor. "you can't make art you are a construction worker, leave it to the gifted artists". art for all. im a big fan of Breton.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link
"fake news" is still useful for trolling trolls when you get roped into a dumb argument on someone's facebook wall
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link
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― flappy bird, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link
"Hack" for stuff that is not tech-related. Russia "hacked" the election, used by dumb boomers who don't know the difference between literally altering votes and posting some targeted ads on facebook.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 22 March 2018 03:06 (six years ago) link
definitely. "life hack" is a bad one
― flappy bird, Thursday, 22 March 2018 03:12 (six years ago) link
life hack is bad, intentionally posting in a way that subverts algorithmic boosting of popular content is a sort of hack
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2018 03:21 (six years ago) link
that's not what they did either
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 22 March 2018 03:21 (six years ago) link
but in any case, that's at most hacking a social media algorithm, it's not hacking an election
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 22 March 2018 03:22 (six years ago) link
if someone makes a viral quiz that is not in fact a quiz in substance, and you get tons of people quote-unquote figuring out their personality type when you are actually just grabbing a list of friends, that is a hack. not a technically proficient hack, but social engineering is hacking by any grey hat definition and that is social engineering
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2018 03:25 (six years ago) link
true, that has nothing directly related to election hacking
that involves irony poisoning
we used to live in a golden age when "hacking" meant driving a taxi on nights and weekends to make a bit of extra cash so you could afford a few niceties like an electric shoeshine machine or a tin of the top-shelf brilliantine
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 22 March 2018 03:29 (six years ago) link
that's also not an accurate description of what cambridge analytica did fwiw, although I'm being a little pedantic. All third party apps at the time grabbed your friends' info, it was part of facebook's stated policy that they could do so. What cambridge did was just pretend to be research for academic purposes when it was actually for its own political-related purposes. But also, cambridge =/= russia.
irony poisoning is also a dumb phrase
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 22 March 2018 03:29 (six years ago) link
Hey, let's be sure that we're really precise in our language in opposing a bunch of inveterate pathological liars
― Moo Vaughn, Thursday, 22 March 2018 04:15 (six years ago) link
I wasn’t a huge fan of “irony poisoning” myself but people who are familiar with online trolls tend to catch on to it more quickly on discussion than just saying “well, your young friend voted for Trump due to deep cynicism”
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2018 13:22 (six years ago) link
i had never heard irony poisoning before reading these posts and now i get iti think it's a useful phrase to describe something that would take more words otherwise
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 March 2018 13:25 (six years ago) link
comes from consuming too many irony supplements
― jmm, Thursday, 22 March 2018 13:46 (six years ago) link
I guess it sounds like a real thing but I'm also very suspicious of anyone who wholesale criticizes irony. That was big after 9/11.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 22 March 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link
that's fine but saying that someone has been poisoned by something doesn't dismiss the thing wholesale -- different things can be poisonous/toxic to different people
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 March 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link
alcohol poisoning is a logical comparison?irony can be intoxicating to people and i think it's possible to OD on it
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 March 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link
> "Hack" for stuff that is not tech-related.
it wasn't originally. https://www.dourish.com/goodies/jargon.html
HACK n. 1. Originally a quick job that produces what is needed, but not well. 2. The result of that job. 3. NEAT HACK: A clever technique. Also, a brilliant practical joke, where neatness is correlated with cleverness, harmlessness, and surprise value. Example: the Caltech Rose Bowl card display switch circa 1961....
― koogs, Thursday, 22 March 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link
yeah this morning in discussing a task for a project i was like "I can hack that" but meaning like, I can manage, I can make it through, make it work.... not like "I can disrupt the system and infiltrate with a devilishly clever shortcut" or whatever.
― lol dis stance dunk (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 22 March 2018 15:31 (six years ago) link
it's a term of art in journalism too
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 March 2018 15:33 (six years ago) link
I kind of blame late gen x/early millennials for the explosion of ironic disconnect and trolling -- shades of that dumb gag on The Simpsons in the mid 90s "Dude, are you being ironic?" "I don't even know anymore"
when your basic view of entertainment is based on pranking people who have actual opinions or convictions and subverting them, and that becomes your go-to mode of social interaction, then you really lose track of how to interact with people authentically
that's how I break down "irony poisoning" to an extent.
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link
it seems like an effort to remain detached, untouched, unaffectedonly we have never been able to afford being that detached so the detachment is poisonous/bad
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 March 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link
rather, only the most privileged among us can afford not to care
a friend was trying to figure out how to explain to her coworker, a young man in grad school, that he was in fact partially responsible for our current political situation because "voting for Trump for the lols" meant he did, in fact, vote for Trump
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2018 15:55 (six years ago) link
What a tool
― valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 22 March 2018 15:56 (six years ago) link
what a fool!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 March 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link
the voting booth doesn't care about your feelings
― playing in his high school band “The Velvet Pickle” (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 March 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link
"on team <whatever>" as a term of support
like when the hell did everything become something you have to root for
― mh, Thursday, 22 March 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link
Yeah I'm not such a fan of that
― scotti pruitti (wins), Thursday, 22 March 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link
There was a good article about the 4chan style of anything-goes/you-mad-bro banter / humour and how toxic it has been to discourse ever since it leaked out of that environment, but fucked if I can find it now, does anyone know where it is?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 22 March 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link
lol wins
― lol dis stance dunk (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 22 March 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
My first awareness of "Team _____" was when it leaked out of Twilight fandom.
― yamnesia (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 March 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link