I love a whole lot of Spielberg. I also love a whole lot of trashy pop culture. It's okay to admit that this marriage of Spielberg + trashy pop culture looks bad and wrong and dumb.
― Another helping of mouthwatering cobbler? (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:20 (six years ago) link
A reminder that the fourth highest-grossing film of all time is Jurassic World - this will do fine at the theaters.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:31 (six years ago) link
Armorbius
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 13:58 (six years ago) link
I re-watched Temple of Doom recently and it blows my mind that people were perfectly willing to accept the life-raft scene in that, but not the fridge scene in Crystal Skull.
― Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:14 (six years ago) link
i didn't mind the fridge scene nearly as much as the whole ufo farrago and the entire existence of thebeef tbh - if anything i'd have been happier if it had stayed within the boundaries of 50s cold-war paranoia
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link
i'm suing you guys
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:18 (six years ago) link
Fridge scene is legit great. I think I posted this recently but if the rest of the film matched that and the Cambridge scenes it'd be up there in the top drawer of Spielberg funtime movies instead of down near The Lost World and Hook.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:18 (six years ago) link
(also i don't nec give a flying shit about this movie)
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link
they should have replaced lebeouf with that monkey that had a pompadour in all scenes
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link
'nec' doing a lot of heavily lifting there doc
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link
i think they did and that's why thebeef was tolerable in fury
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:23 (six years ago) link
maybe cuz none of us have seen it! xp
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link
look let's not let details like that get in the way of a 900-post thread before opening day
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:26 (six years ago) link
how many of those threads are clowning on the disastrously bad book though?
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link
er posts, you know what i mean
I think I posted this recently but if the rest of the film matched that and the Cambridge scenes it'd be up there in the top drawer of Spielberg funtime movies
yeah, it really goes to shit once they reach the jungle
i'd need to watch it again to confirm and let's be honest that's not gonna happen but my recollection is that it's also hamstrung by harrison ford's sleepytime performance as indy, which probably is even more glaring after he actually showed up to work in the force awakens and blade runner 2049
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link
fair point xp
it blows my mind that people were perfectly willing to accept the life-raft scene in that, but not the fridge scene in Crystal Skull
imo the raft scene rules and the fridge scene rules. i loved the imagery of Indy standing in front of the a bomb. Temple has way bigger issues than the raft scene and Crystal Skull has way bigger issues than the fridge scene. tbh i'm not sure i've read anyone complain about the fridge scene outside of "Top 10 reasons Crystal Skull sucked" listmakers or the general trend of deciding why other people dislike things for them.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:41 (six years ago) link
I mean "nuking the fridge" became the replacement phrase for "jumping the shark" . . .
― Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link
to be fair to crystal skull, its not really fair that people say the aliens as a shark-jump, but were totally fine with the ARC OF THE COVENANT and HOLY GRAIL.
come on bros. there are many reasons crystal skull is shitty but that one doesn't wash.
― jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:04 (six years ago) link
*saw the aliens
ark of the covenant and the holy grail: biblical hogwash
aliens: sci-fi hogwash
i prefer to keep my flavours of hogwash separate
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:06 (six years ago) link
admittedly i'd probably have been more open to the aliens if they weren't total bollocks tho
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:09 (six years ago) link
I should probably watch past the first half hour of Crystal Skull sometime. Or should I.
― Another helping of mouthwatering cobbler? (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link
well, it doesn't get any better iirc so draw yr own conclusions
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link
yeah if the second half of the movie, and the alien climax, had actually been good and interesting and fun, i don't think people would have come back to work the next week saying "it was so dumb, aliens, are you kidding me?"
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 16:26 (six years ago) link
i think the power of the Indiana Jones films partially came from dabbling in the old ancient legends that tie into actual human history and its more sepulchral and haunted elements, as opposed to shiny scifi (which feels out of place and was also executed poorly.)
― omar little, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link
every ILX film thread ever
1) Anticipating new film by est'd filmmaker2) Shit on/be excited for said film3) Recapitulate last popcorn film made by said filmmaker, endlessly4) Go see new film on opening weekend, debate5) Thread is a ghost town on 3rd weekend
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 16:32 (six years ago) link
btw Spielberg's lede on every Crystal Skull interview was "George wanted to do it"
so you guys shd be shitting on The BFG
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link
You guys are acting like extraterrestrial phenomena somehow falls outside the purview of a mid-20th century archaeologist.
― Another helping of mouthwatering cobbler? (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link
Morbs, steps 4 and 5 don't really figure in here because no one will see it and it will be gone in a week. Maybe less than. Spielberg's career is over, mark my words.
― Another helping of mouthwatering cobbler? (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link
3.5) morbs repeatedly shows up to look down at his nose at posters having the temerity to discuss things on a discussion board
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link
yellowcard for off-topic
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link
I dunno, kinda feel like any possible ILX post would be on topic in a thread with 'SADDO: THE MOVIE' in the title.
― Another helping of mouthwatering cobbler? (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link
"because no one will see it and it will be gone in a week. Maybe less than. Spielberg's career is over, mark my words." that's crazy talk.
― akm, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link
he's funnin', it's an improv premise!
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link
“I would argue that masturbation is the human animal's most important adaptation. The very cornerstone of our technological civilization. Our hands evolved to grip tools, all right—including our own. You see, thinkers, inventors, and scientists are usually geeks, and geeks have a harder time getting laid than anyone. Without the built-in sexual release valve provided by masturbation, it's doubtful that early humans would have ever mastered the secrets of fire or discovered the wheel. And you can bet that Galileo, Newton, and Einstein never would have made their discoveries if they hadn't first been able to clear their heads by slapping the salami (or "knocking a few protons off the old hydrogen atom"). The same goes for Marie Curie. Before she discovered radium, you can be certain she first discovered the little man in the canoe.” ― Ernest Cline, Ready Player One
― jmm, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
of all the terrible stuff i've heard of from RPO, the fanboy attempts at aping Neal Stephenson are maybe the least-commented and most eye-rolly to me. that entire section is a blatant cover version of the "mathematician works out equation on how often he needs to have sex in order to crack Nazi codes" sequence from Cryptonomicon, which was not (in case you were in doubt) one of the better sequences in said book. i get that this novel is essentially one step up from fanfic so i understand how that happened but c'mon.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
the key difference with austin powers tho is that it parodied the 60s and rpo (assuming the film is a faithful adaptation of the book) is an unironic celebration of the 80s
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, March 14, 2018
it's not even a celebration! it's just a list.
of all the terrible stuff i've heard of from RPO, the fanboy attempts at aping Neal Stephenson are maybe the least-commented and most eye-rolly to me...
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, March 14, 2018
def super irritating from the jump. good artists borrow, great artists steal, crap artists copy/paste
“I would argue that masturbation is the human animal's most important adaptation...― Ernest Cline, Ready Player One
― jmm, Wednesday, March 14, 2018
stupid on multiple levels since non-human animals also love 2 fap
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link
btw i saw a Mae West movie last night where her beau said "I've been thinking a lot about you."
Mae: "You must be awfully tired."
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link
(or "knocking a few protons off the old hydrogen atom").
hydrogen has one proton you fucking idiot. I'm dumb as shit and I know that
― frogbs, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
lmao i missed that completely
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link
tbf i didn't get that far
loool
― jmm, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link
fridge scene shit and let you know that shit was all you were gonna get
aliens shit
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
so I had no idea Stephen Granade had written about this years ago: http://granades.com/2011/11/30/ready-player-one-reinforces-some-bad-geek-outlooks/
(the comparison to The Westing Game is interesting, because it's fairly clear subtext of the book that Westing was a bad person who mistreated his employees, committed fraud, and whose "game" was a manipulative-at-best act of revenge against his ex-wife.)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link
fridge scene shit and let you know that shit was all you were gonna getaliens shit― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:40 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:40 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark
fridge scene was great imagery. straight out of a pulp magazine cover. believability-wise Indy has always been superhuman, riding the sub and all.
aliens was shit and it was Speilberg doing a reference to the ending of the Fate of Atlantis videogame. so in a way he is doing that trick again 10 years later.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link
no it was shit
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
i'd thought about Westing Game before too. the comparison of Halliday and Westing as people is interesting and revealing, and agreed, you're supposed to realize along the way that this dude despite all his wonka-ish mischief is maybe not so cool. nice trick for a kid's book. but mostly i'd thought about how poorly Cline's narrative seems to rip it off. Westing's dickish puzzle is actually fascinating, clever, intricate - you're as eager for the next chapter's clues as the characters are and hoping to figure it out for yourself. Halliday's dickish puzzle is barely a puzzle, more of a Sporcle "guess my K-pop bias" quiz: if you like the same things Halliday liked, you and the characters will figure it out immediately!
basically i assume Cline read TWG as a kid, retained none of its structure or devices since he is a terrible writer who doesn't think about such things. it's hard to write a book like that (which Raskin's peers apparently recognized by giving her the Newberry for it). but what did stick, in the back of his mind the fantasy that one day a rich guy would stage a contest and let him get rich himself despite not being good at anything. irritatingly, this is more or less what seems to have happened for him.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link
I read the Westing Game a ton of times as a kid. I guess if this is something like that for this generation, only with shoehorned nostalgia, it could have some redeeming aspects
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 20:33 (six years ago) link