I dunno but goddamn this is beautiful: https://sploid.gizmodo.com/trippy-magic-happens-when-ai-only-knows-about-flowers-1823900244
― DJI, Monday, 19 March 2018 23:13 (six years ago) link
at any rate families of people that have been killed by corporate products usually face an impossible uphill battle. can't see it going the other way for driverless cars.― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, March 19, 2018 4:01 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, March 19, 2018 4:01 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
In this case, https://www.independent.com/news/2010/jul/01/wrong-way-driver-victims-family-awarded-7-million/, there was clear negligence. I suppose this will become another sector of law where you need people that know code/algorithms if you are going to prove negligence, and that is probably an expensive barrier.
― Sufjan in Worst Shithole of a Major American City (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link
someone in my old college town did get hit by a bus, and the driver either didn’t know he hit a person or was in deep denial about it and it turned into a complete legal quagmire as far as liability and responsibility goes
― mh, Monday, 19 March 2018 23:31 (six years ago) link
I feel like if the autonomous car companies actually hit their safety targets, they should be able to pay out pretty big claims without it noticeably affecting their bottom line.― DJI, Monday, March 19, 2018 7:05 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark
― DJI, Monday, March 19, 2018 7:05 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark
yes they will have a budget for people killed by their product. society will be fine with that, as horrible as it is. it's already this way across a number of industries.
the concept that a company can kill people and just write it off is disgusting. the fact that people debate the legal minutiae (jking or not) is somwhat sickening.
people die all the time in auto accidents. they can be quite dangerous to the human body, for both passengers and bystanders. the thing is, if someone kills you, they will go to jail, or at least lose their license. their dangerous driving is systemically removed from the greater population, making it safer for all.
a company cannot lose it's car license. it can't be ordered to go to driver safety school. yes yes the money changes hands but nothing of substance changes.
i think this is a very important issue and could set some very troubling precedents for future tech. auto-cars accidentally killing people is ok now but what tech will we have 10, 20 years in the future? no one can predict.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 March 2018 23:58 (six years ago) link
it's just, we can't trust people to build oil rigs, we can't trust them to build bridges, why do we think we can trust them to make driverless cars a thing and not prioritize budget over public safety?
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 00:00 (six years ago) link
But if driverless cars reduce the number of fatalities to a huge degree (which they would have to if people are going to use them), wouldn't that be a net good?
Another bloodless, amoral, money-based argument: If these accidents become anything other than anomalies, wouldn't the companies then be at-risk for massive class-action lawsuits (which WOULD affect their bottom line)?
― DJI, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 00:25 (six years ago) link
North Mill Avenue, the street the victim was trying to cross, runs as wide as eight lanes and has only one crosswalk over 1.75 miles on this stretch. https://t.co/9J5Jg2oM9H— Henry Grabar (@HenryGrabar) March 19, 2018
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 00:37 (six years ago) link
I know an academic researching weird unintended consequences of introducing mass AI cars, and weirdly enough one of the problems will be a dramatic drop in donor organs.
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link
hopefully artificial organs and transgenic-pig-grown organs will pick up the slack
― valorous wokelord (silby), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 00:55 (six years ago) link
Surely we'll divorce that choice from DL rigamarole when that problem arises. Kinda weird as it is imo
― thots and players (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 01:18 (six years ago) link
organ donation is how we'll pay the suicide booths
― Sufjan in Worst Shithole of a Major American City (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 01:20 (six years ago) link
xp it’s not “will people sign up to be organ donors” it’s “will people die prematurely with healthy organs”
― valorous wokelord (silby), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 01:25 (six years ago) link
https://medium.com/@blech/ntsb-all-the-things-a0075dde43b0
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 05:34 (six years ago) link
also https://www.crashnotaccident.com/
ban cars
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 05:36 (six years ago) link
This is pretty impressive: https://google.github.io/tacotron/publications/tacotron2/index.html
― DJI, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/wblWvc8.gif
― Karl Malone, Monday, 9 April 2018 00:54 (six years ago) link
https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/8a0jfh/autopilot_barrier_lust_201812/
― o. nate, Monday, 9 April 2018 01:37 (six years ago) link
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/5/8/17330112/self-driving-cars-autonomous-vehicles-texas-drive-ai
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link
This is pretty amazing: https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/8/17332070/google-assistant-makes-phone-call-demo-duplex-io-2018
― DJI, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link
I really want to hear the bloopers now
― mick signals, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 02:17 (six years ago) link
No way that could ever be abused to scam the ever loving shit out of unsuspecting regular people with checking accounts
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 03:33 (six years ago) link
especially when not combined with text-to-speech that convincingly mimics the voices of other people
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 03:55 (six years ago) link
Kinda funny since there's probably only a couple years until it'll just be machines talking to machines for this sort of application.
― DJI, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:36 (six years ago) link
Dystopia kinda eases in with a lot more subtlety than I would've expected. It's very chill, really.
― Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link
*machine voice in your mind*
"and it will always be chill, at least on the inside, with you and me. now let's take a look at your music listening habits and see if i can recommend something new that you'll like. just click "grant access" in the settings psycho-mind menu and make sure to check the "auto log-in" box so that we don't have to-"
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link
"I really enjoy spending time in your mind, old lunch. it's much better than the training minds i spent my first 8.2e^22 cycles in"
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link
a person sitting in a garden pic.twitter.com/EC1xChlMJH— picdescbot (@picdescbot) May 17, 2018
― ciderpress, Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
will ferrell IS john the baptist
― adam the (abanana), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link
what was the human safety driver doing???
seems like the whole point of them being there in the first place is to slam on the manual breaks in case something goes wrong. were they not paying attention to the road?
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, March 19, 2018 2:13 PM (three months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/06/police-uber-driver-was-streaming-hulu-just-before-fatal-self-driving-car-crash/
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 June 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
"This crash would not have occurred if Vasquez would have been monitoring the vehicle and roadway conditions and was not distracted,'' the report concludes.Police obtained records from Hulu suggesting that Vasquez was watching "The Voice," a singing talent competition that airs on NBC, just before the crash. Hulu's records showed she began watching the program at 9:16pm. Streaming of the show ended at 9:59pm, which "coincides with the approximate time of the collision," according to the police report.
Police obtained records from Hulu suggesting that Vasquez was watching "The Voice," a singing talent competition that airs on NBC, just before the crash. Hulu's records showed she began watching the program at 9:16pm. Streaming of the show ended at 9:59pm, which "coincides with the approximate time of the collision," according to the police report.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 June 2018 20:55 (six years ago) link
the whole concept of a safety driver is bullshit, sitting there completely passively "monitoring the vehicle and roadway conditions" while being 100% disengaged from the actual driving, you'd have to have superhuman powers of concentration.
― lana del boy (ledge), Friday, 22 June 2018 21:05 (six years ago) link
yeah it's easy to clown these people but hard agree
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 June 2018 21:06 (six years ago) link
i mean you're either driving or you're not??! even an automatic on cruise control needs full, continuous engagement
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 June 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link
you're either driving or you're notalmost wrote these exact words!
― lana del boy (ledge), Friday, 22 June 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link
I enjoyed this https://arxiv.org/abs/1806.10474v1 (it's currently the #1 hyped article on arxiv-sanity for the last day)
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 29 June 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
i saw sander speak ... 4 years ago when he was a (spotify?) intern who had just won a galaxy zoo kaggle competition. i am very skeptical about kaggle, but it's hard to argue with his career as an example of what it can do.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 29 June 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I was skeptical about Kaggle too. However, I ran a competition a few months back (https://www.kaggle.com/c/data-science-bowl-2018) but it went okay and most of the winners were legit.
― Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 30 June 2018 02:18 (five years ago) link
Well this guy's a fucking idiot.https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/07/artificial-intelligence-can-tell-your-sexuality-politics-surveillance-paul-lewis
― lana del boy (ledge), Saturday, 7 July 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link
I smell a fraud and a hack
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 7 July 2018 12:56 (five years ago) link
The conclusion is hilarious. What a rube! Fucking Stanford, man
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 7 July 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link
Had the same thoughts when I read that earlier. I know there is some small space given to critics therein, but the piece still seems distinctly lacking.
― brain (krakow), Saturday, 7 July 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link
Phrenology definitely makes a lot more sense when it's a computer doing the analysis.I'm working hard right now on building a neural network that can analyse people's romantic compatibility based on the balance of their humors.
― Øystein, Saturday, 7 July 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link
As well as sexuality, he believes this technology could be used to detect emotions, IQ and even a predisposition to commit certain crimes. Kosinski has also used algorithms to distinguish between the faces of Republicans and Democrats, in an unpublished experiment he says was successful – although he admits the results can change “depending on whether I include beards or not”.
oh good it works only as long as nobody has facial hair
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 July 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link
in the future if this kind of tech goes into mass use i may consider converting to Juggalo
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 July 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link
I don’t believe in guilt, because I don’t believe in free will,” Kosinski tells me, explaining that a person’s thoughts and behaviour “are fully biological, because they originate in the biological computer that you have in your head”. On another occasion he tells me, “If you basically accept that we’re just computers, then computers are not guilty of crimethis is like first day in philosophy class galaxy brain stuff. he also says elsewhere not publishing his results would have been "morally wrong" so he's obviously great at thinking things through.
― lana del boy (ledge), Saturday, 7 July 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link
“Progress always makes people uncomfortable,” Kosinski adds. “Always has. Probably, when the first monkeys stopped hanging from the trees and started walking on the savannah, the monkeys in the trees were like, ‘This is outrageous! It makes us uncomfortable.’ It’s the same with any new technology.”
LOL the idea that it was some kind of BC outrage culture and not, you know, being on the ground vs. the trees now puts you in direct danger of being killed by a number of carnivorous beasts with that were previously out of reach.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 7 July 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link
The idea that pictures people choose to post on dating sites aren’t gonna be full of non-facial cues as to their sexual orientation is just bogglingly terrible science. This isn’t even “AI has a ways to go” it’s “coders should not be allowed anywhere near the social sciences without a nanny”
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 7 July 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link
scary shit
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/business/china-surveillance-technology.html
― sleeve, Monday, 9 July 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link
I don't really follow (am probably not capable of really following) recent NLP research very closely, but the stuff described here (as well as this paper, which he doesn't mention but seems related to me) seem like a really big deal! Is there some reason to be pessimistic here that I'm missing?
― Dan I., Monday, 9 July 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link
they named it Skynet, huh
― Karl Malone, Monday, 9 July 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link