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rather, only the most privileged among us can afford not to care

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 March 2018 15:54 (seven years ago)

a friend was trying to figure out how to explain to her coworker, a young man in grad school, that he was in fact partially responsible for our current political situation because "voting for Trump for the lols" meant he did, in fact, vote for Trump

mh, Thursday, 22 March 2018 15:55 (seven years ago)

What a tool

valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 22 March 2018 15:56 (seven years ago)

what a fool!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 March 2018 16:11 (seven years ago)

the voting booth doesn't care about your feelings

playing in his high school band “The Velvet Pickle” (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 March 2018 16:14 (seven years ago)

"on team <whatever>" as a term of support

like when the hell did everything become something you have to root for

mh, Thursday, 22 March 2018 19:28 (seven years ago)

Yeah I'm not such a fan of that

scotti pruitti (wins), Thursday, 22 March 2018 19:58 (seven years ago)

There was a good article about the 4chan style of anything-goes/you-mad-bro banter / humour and how toxic it has been to discourse ever since it leaked out of that environment, but fucked if I can find it now, does anyone know where it is?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 22 March 2018 20:14 (seven years ago)

lol wins

lol dis stance dunk (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 22 March 2018 20:34 (seven years ago)

My first awareness of "Team _____" was when it leaked out of Twilight fandom.

yamnesia (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 March 2018 20:45 (seven years ago)

“it’s just like inception” whenever any situation is slightly unusual and nothing at all like inception

karl wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 22 March 2018 21:27 (seven years ago)

imo the worst (best?) is when you proclaim you're on a team for something that has no opposition? or at least not an obvious polar opposite

I was reminded the Team Whatever thing irritated me when looking at a poorly-constructed defense of some Canadian musician accused of assault over on ilm. The writer was "Team <Bandname>". Like, who is the other party, here? Bands without rapist lead singers?

mh, Thursday, 22 March 2018 21:30 (seven years ago)

I guess it's just time to throw in the towel on cliché-as-adjective?

I'm going to die a bitter old crank.

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 22 March 2018 21:33 (seven years ago)

Don't know if we've had this already, but people replacing "literally" with "figuratively" - have come across this a couple of times in the last week.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 22 March 2018 21:40 (seven years ago)

hahaha

mh, Thursday, 22 March 2018 21:40 (seven years ago)

Oh no

thots and players (rip van wanko), Thursday, 22 March 2018 22:02 (seven years ago)

Hadrian, the noun derives from an adjective (it's an adjective in French - a past participle, as denoted by the accent).

If you don't like it I can't convince you otherwise. But I don't think it's much more barbaric than thousand other similar forms. One might call something a waterproof, a built-in, a submersible, a dirigible, a mobile, a paperback, a hardcover, a fleece. Woolens, silks, satins. We say of a guitar that it is an acoustic or an electric. We say of a wine that it is a red, or a white.

I think of cliché-as-adjective as a synonym of overused, which is what it means. "That has become cliché" is the same as saying "that has become overused." We would never say "that is an overused."

yamnesia (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 March 2018 22:10 (seven years ago)

This is English dammit! We also say "the hoi poloi" when in Greek hoi is the article. I am holding out hope that this will revert to its status as solecism and is just millennial-symptomatic.

Anyway it means *more* than merely "overused," right? Which is maybe why it grates so much on these ears, double-misuse flag.

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 22 March 2018 22:25 (seven years ago)

btw I came here to complain about "folks"—why the fuck is every group of people suddenly "folks"?—and just overheard someone w/ "so cliche"

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 22 March 2018 22:27 (seven years ago)

“folks” is growing popular because it’s unquestionably gender-neutral. Perceived marking of “guys” and “dudes” varies from speaker to speaker. “You people” sounds rude. “Y’all” is too regional/marked to start saying on purpose. Hence, “folks”

valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 22 March 2018 22:30 (seven years ago)

I'm talking about straight swap "folks" for "people." Not in the second person as a term of address.

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 22 March 2018 22:32 (seven years ago)

It strikes me as pol-speak designed to ingratiate that has leaked into the general population.

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 22 March 2018 22:33 (seven years ago)

I’ve been at a training this week where one of the facilitators uses “all the things” constantly and it’s been driving me up the wall.

JoeStork, Thursday, 22 March 2018 22:50 (seven years ago)

Yeah I'm not such a fan of that

*so* not a fan

bobby spirals has convinced me that you lot > y'all

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 March 2018 23:32 (seven years ago)

Don't think I could straight-facedly say that as an AmE speaker

valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 22 March 2018 23:33 (seven years ago)

i've lived in the south, but as someone not born there i am unable to say y'll

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 March 2018 23:37 (seven years ago)

it seems like an effort to remain detached, untouched, unaffected
only we have never been able to afford being that detached so the detachment is poisonous/bad

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 March 2018 15:54 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rather, only the most privileged among us can afford not to care

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 March 2018 15:54 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

irony still has aristocratic associations for a lot of ppl, I see ppl react like it's an extravagance to be played out to the court, a piece of out of touch tyranny of a piece with nero fiddling while rome burns, but I don't think it's true. ime the awareness that drives detachment comes through bitter experience. there's a great james baldwin bit on the irony in the blues in the fire next time but I can't find it

ogmor, Friday, 23 March 2018 09:39 (seven years ago)

there's a particular type of bright-eyed earnestness/engagement that feels intrinsically (upper-) middle class to me, a certain sense of security and not having to be on your guard at all times?

soref, Friday, 23 March 2018 09:54 (seven years ago)

two weeks pass...

the word "bias" used as an adjective

Number None, Monday, 9 April 2018 08:19 (seven years ago)

imo the worst (best?) is when you proclaim you're on a team for something that has no opposition? or at least not an obvious polar opposite

I was reminded the Team Whatever thing irritated me when looking at a poorly-constructed defense of some Canadian musician accused of assault over on ilm. The writer was "Team <Bandname>". Like, who is the other party, here? Bands without rapist lead singers?

I like this because it's a good example of semantic broadening... the phrase has gone from declaring allegiance to one side to simply indicating you support someone or something. A very reasonable interpretation, as being on a team is as much a declaration of identity as it is one of conflict. Also illustrative of the fact that meaning arises from the ongoing parsing of utterances by all speakers, which often ends up different from what the speaker meant. Like, this is not signal degradation or corruption, simply that the act of people hearing you say something always involves acts of bespoke definition. And the valence of what you say is mainly a function of the experiences of the people that hear you, and never exactly what you meant. Civilization overloading human language itself with more semantic discretion than it can bear being something of a privileged act, and the resulting judgements that arise from it. Makes for some really good novels though.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 9 April 2018 15:14 (seven years ago)

excuse my rambling there is work I don't want to do

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 9 April 2018 15:23 (seven years ago)

the word "bias" used as an adjective

― Number None, Monday, 9 April 2018 08:19 (seven hours ago) Permalink

I didn't know that this was happening. Gross.

I'm Finn thanks, don't mention it (fionnland), Monday, 9 April 2018 15:32 (seven years ago)

Where did "it me" come from?

bone thugs & prosody (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 9 April 2018 15:40 (seven years ago)

http://www.papermag.com/an-interview-with-pastaversaucy-the-inventor-of-the-it-me-meme-1427658503.html

might even be true, I think "on fleek" has a similarly attested online origin

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 9 April 2018 15:53 (seven years ago)

"erasure" gets tossed around too much these days

marcos, Monday, 9 April 2018 18:42 (seven years ago)

considering they haven't had a decent hit since the mid '90s

Number None, Monday, 9 April 2018 18:44 (seven years ago)

they still have a right to be tossed around dammit

vermicious kid (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 April 2018 18:51 (seven years ago)

f hazel otm como siempre

Also illustrative of the fact that meaning arises from the ongoing parsing of utterances by all speakers, which often ends up different from what the speaker meant.
esp when the utterance is loaded with references that carry meaning, which is why you should try to avoid using references to indicate anything important because not everyone even knows what you're referring to. assuming comprehension of a message containing a reference is a recipe for misunderstanding. if that's your aim, go for it. if you aim to communicate clearly, avoid using references to imply anything you truly want your audience to understand as you intend. that is why we have words, no?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 9 April 2018 20:16 (seven years ago)

'Friend' as in 'acquaintance'.

pomenitul, Monday, 9 April 2018 21:45 (seven years ago)

This has probably been mentioned but I find the rhetorical flourishes of "I'm really glad there's...." (when the writer isn't glad) or "It's almost like there's..." (when something is obvious I guess) hard to parse and quite annoying to read. It gets widely used here and on twitter.

badg, Monday, 9 April 2018 21:54 (seven years ago)

"we don't deserve ___"

marcos, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)

"___ is the ____ we deserve"

marcos, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)

heard a girl say v card the other day which i haven't heard for so long i figured its use was over

Droni Mitchell (Ross), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)

Should we really be teaching our children that losing their virginity involes punching something?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 13 April 2018 14:57 (seven years ago)

We shouldn’t be teaching our young people that “virginity” is a real thing tbh.

valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 13 April 2018 14:57 (seven years ago)

"what were you thinking"

pointless expression as it usually implies you weren't thinking at all

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Friday, 13 April 2018 15:01 (seven years ago)

xp otm, get rid of the concept

ogmor, Friday, 13 April 2018 15:14 (seven years ago)

otm get rid of the concept -- it's a cudgel for the oppressor if i am being grandiose

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 13 April 2018 15:58 (seven years ago)

OTM the whole concept is ridiculous.

Yerac, Friday, 13 April 2018 16:04 (seven years ago)

Keep it for olive oil, though. I ain't eatin' no slut-ass olive oil.

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Friday, 13 April 2018 16:13 (seven years ago)


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