Matt Taibbi

rank-and-file Dems are out of the habit of protesting Dems in office, period

likely related:

In the new issue of Harper's, I've got a piece on American amnesia, which I analyze with the help of Philip Roth, Barbara Fields, Louis Hartz, and Alcoholics Anonymous. https://t.co/2V9PaAiw5A pic.twitter.com/gxtWKOrErg

— corey robin (@CoreyRobin) March 19, 2018

So otm

Robin:

Little in Trump surprised me, except for the fact that he won.

Whenever I said this, people got angry with me. They still do. For months, now years, I puzzled over that anger. My wife explained it to me recently: in making the case for continuity between past and present, I sound complacent about the now. I sound like I’m saying that nothing is wrong with Trump, that everything will work out. I thought I was giving people a steadying anchor, a sense that they — we — had faced this threat before, a sense that this is the right-wing monster we’ve been fighting all along, since Nixon and Reagan and George W. Bush. Turns out I was removing their ballast, setting them afloat in the intermittent and inconstant air.

xp - ha!
From that same (excellent!) piece:

When Trump became a contender for the White House, I saw him as an extension or fulfillment of the conservative movement rather than a break with it. Almost everything people found outrageous and objectionable about his candidacy — the racism, the contempt for institutions, the ambient violence, the hostility to the rule of law — I’d been seeing in the right for years. Little in Trump surprised me, except for the fact that he won.

Whenever I said this, people got angry with me. They still do. For months, now years, I puzzled over that anger. My wife explained it to me recently: in making the case for continuity between past and present, I sound complacent about the now. I sound like I’m saying that nothing is wrong with Trump, that everything will work out. I thought I was giving people a steadying anchor, a sense that they — we — had faced this threat before, a sense that this is the right-wing monster we’ve been fighting all along, since Nixon and Reagan and George W. Bush. Turns out I was removing their ballast, setting them afloat in the intermittent and inconstant air.

He then wraps it up with a "yeah but still." I'm still not convinced that these arguments are helpful, though they are definitely true (as Mordy pointed out).

I think it'd be good to consider as much truth as we can get to be helpful; rationing it has put us here.

as it happens I just picked up a copy of _Reactionary Mind_, looking forward to digging in

Nathan Robinson was on Majority Report on Monday to go over his Peterson piece and is really good:

http://majorityfm.libsyn.com/1798-jordan-peterson-the-intellectual-we-deserve-w-nathan-j-robinson

Oh wait, wrong thread. Sorta.

I want to thank The Guardian, an organization whose work I have held in high regard, for making this announcement. I wish them success in their future endeavors. I am happy this matter could be resolved. pic.twitter.com/qPUpmmtlY4

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) April 10, 2018

This looks like it could be good: https://taibbi.substack.com/p/why-im-serializing-a-book-on-substack

Some very normal replies to that tweet from the fans.

I’m honestly not sure whether he’s aware the person he’s sharing here is a 9-11 truther, pizzagater and wrote a piece arguing the left should unite with the alt-right.

Caitlin Johnstone comes up with a brilliant plan to silence RT that will never be enacted in America. https://t.co/I8aMve6dvt

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) May 7, 2018

children of the elite like mr. taibbi sometimes need to be graded on an affirmative action curve or our entire social structure will collapse

Does anyone want to debate the actual point - that there are no antiwar voices in American corporate media - or would you like to just keep heaping shit on the person I retweeted? https://t.co/L6oSWz4KbM

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) May 7, 2018

Well yeah that’s a whole other thing: Let’s pretend the Russian government will shut RT down the day MSNBC hires one of one of their “these people actually gassed themselves” reporters.

Lol, he doesn't even skip a beat.

She slanders first responders in war zones, calling them terrorists at the same time they are being murdered, while using conspiracy theories to absolve their killers. And this shit is promoted by RT to serve the Russian war effort. Do you get how this undermines her point?

— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) May 7, 2018

I've seen several leftists (or center-liberals) point out that the left should mirror the right and just attack the media and call them biased whether it's true or not. But still, why even involve Russia Today...

I don't know about mirroring but the left does have a problem hemming and hawing and rarely going on gut instinct as we all know

nice to know the GOTCHA! YOU QUOTED THE RONG PERSON thing isnt solely an ilx property

Well it’s also a bad point in addition to failing the low bar of “don't amplify the crypto fascist” though that alone seems revealing and indicative of the larger problem.

Digging his new serialized book. Would make a great TV show...

This is fucking maddening: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/how-to-survive-americas-kill-list-699334/

jesus

in the summer of 2016, things began to explode around him with suspicious frequency

Thanks, YouKnowWho

This is exponentially worse than being secretly put on the no-fly list, but it equally runs roughshod over the whole "due process of law" thing. No publically issued warrant, no representation by counsel, no summons to court, no public hearings, no trial, no appeal, no nuthin' but "heavens! we kill you now."

something darkly comic about the fact that the US has missed five times already

I mean we already knew the vast majority killed in drone strikes are not the "intended"

xp It's like something out of Brazil

Did anybody finish the article? I did.

Anyway here’s the guy’s twitter so we can follow along as he hopefully survives to get his day in court

https://twitter.com/bilalkareem

Taibbi doing some good reporting here: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/secret-government-spending-779959/

This new rule is not confined to a few spy agencies. It appears to allow a stunningly long list of federal agencies to make use of new authority to “modify” public financial statements.

that is truly sickening

it is sickening - a lot of the details are in this, from the Nation in November:
https://www.thenation.com/article/pentagon-audit-budget

For those anxious to keep the dream alive, the Times published its usual graphic of Trump-Russia “contacts,” inviting readers to keep making connections. But in a separate piece by Peter Baker, the paper noted the Mueller news had dire consequences for the press:

It will be a reckoning for President Trump, to be sure, but also for Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, for Congress, for Democrats, for Republicans, for the news media and, yes, for the system as a whole…

This is a damning page one admission by the Times. Despite the connect-the-dots graphic in its other story, and despite the astonishing, emotion-laden editorial the paper also ran suggesting “We don’t need to read the Mueller report” because we know Trump is guilty, Baker at least began the work of preparing Times readers for a hard question: “Have journalists connected too many dots that do not really add up?”

The paper was signaling it understood there would now be questions about whether or not news outlets like itself made galactic errors by betting heavily on a new, politicized approach, trying to be true to “history’s judgment” on top of the hard-enough job of just being true. Worse, in a brutal irony everyone should have seen coming, the press has now handed Trump the mother of campaign issues heading into 2020.

Nothing Trump is accused of from now on by the press will be believed by huge chunks of the population, a group that (perhaps thanks to this story) is now larger than his original base. As Baker notes, a full 50.3% of respondents in a poll conducted this month said they agree with Trump the Mueller probe is a “witch hunt.”

https://taibbi.substack.com/

You buried the lede:

“WMD was a pimple compared to Russiagate. “

I look forward to Maddow being brought before The Hague.

JFC

He’s saying only in terms of media credulity, not in terms of consequences

It pains me but i think i agree with taibbi

Setting aside that this screed pivots off a 3 1/2 page partisan brief, I’m still going to hard disagree.

And “consequences aside” is an absurd position.

screed came out prior to Barr's letter. Taibbi just added a line about it.

i feel like at the very least, the moscow tower stuff plus trump's obvious obstruction was *something*

the espionage stuff was a stretch, always

Dear god, it seems as if he blames the media for losing the faith of the FOX NEWS audience, and blames NYT instead of FOX.

Taibbi is so pathetic: https://www.vox.com/2019/3/31/18286902/trump-mueller-report-russia-matt-taibbi

Seems pretty straightforward to me. Taibbi's been warning about over-playing the Russia stuff for a while, now. Not sure how this gets twisted up into "pathetic" in your mind.

In which @mtaibbi, they guy telling everyone who'll listen that journalists fucked up in reporting the Russian story, admits he still doesn't know whether Russia did the hack. https://t.co/W7RSZGzYDv pic.twitter.com/ixENHr8isK

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) April 1, 2019

Those two concepts are not contradictory at all. Journalists fucked up by reporting shit which they didn't know to be true. Is Marcy trying to say that if it turns out the collusion allegations WERE true that the journalists would have all been vindicated? This is where Taibbi has been continuously consistent, imo.

The areas where Mueller said the allegations were true, Taibbi still isn't acknowledging it at all. Meaning it basically doesn't matter what Mueller says.

It is bad when people blatantly disregard fact in favour of their own stubborn views.

But also, this is just nonsense:
During the Iraq War period, what we really saw was virtually the entire press jump on board together to get behind this war effort. What we saw this time around, however, was a total cleaving of the media landscape, where half the media completely denied the Russia story, and the other half completely jumped into it with both feet. And on that half, in the blue state, northeast corridor, no dissent was allowed.

So now, because so much of this story turned out to be false, after thousands and thousands of stories both on TV and in the print media, it’s convinced everybody that the press is basically political. And look, that was already true of Fox News and The Daily Caller, and all those right-wing outlets, but now it’s happened 100 percent on the left. And we’ve completely lost the trust of a huge chunk of the nation.

Is the cost of that higher than the Iraq War? Certainly not in terms of the loss of life — that’s obvious. But in purely journalistic terms, this is an epic disaster.

It's also a fine example of what that lawyergun guy always talks about, that it can always only be liberals who are at fault. The problem is the press was divided, but Taibbi isn't yelling at guys like Hannity who said Seth Rich was behind it?