SADDO: THE MOVIE (aka READY PLAYER ONE)

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Cline also wrote the script for the charmingly innocent, unjustly overlooked 2009 film Fanboys

lol classic Armond

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 March 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link

sleepingbag projects a lack of self-reflection onto others because:

El Tomboto, Friday, 30 March 2018 13:58 (six years ago) link

the internet is often about projecting onto others

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 March 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link

Lindsay Ellis is great. probably the best film crit i've seen in the youtube era.

Yeah, I just started watching her stuff. Her latest video on The Hobbit is really good.

jmm, Friday, 30 March 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link

Lindsay Ellis is great. probably the best film crit i've seen in the youtube era.

Yeah, I just started watching her stuff.

Intrigued.

Her latest video on The Hobbit is really good.

Well that passed.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 30 March 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link

maria and the kids are seeing this tonight. i will clean records instead. kinda want to see pacific rim a little. but not much.

oh god i read that nerd porn poem that the RPO guy wrote during his slam poetry days after i saw a link for it and now i think he should just be banned from everything forever.

scott seward, Friday, 30 March 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link

The AO Scott review is good. It saves its most pointed skewering for those who would call this SADDO: THE MOVIE.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/28/movies/ready-player-one-review-steven-spielberg.html

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 March 2018 15:57 (six years ago) link

Anxiously anticipating the guarded moral quandary of your positive review, Morbs.

Arthur Pizzarelli AKA The Peetz (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 March 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link

you may have a long wait

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 March 2018 16:21 (six years ago) link

"Spielberg is awesome! You're all idiots! No, I'm not planning on actually seeing the movie, why? Here's another link that proves that Spielberg is awesome and you're all idiots!"

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 30 March 2018 16:25 (six years ago) link

Got out of seeing this

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 March 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

I'll never pay to see this, but it's been interesting listening to YTers describe differences from book to film. In the film, evidently named characters aren't killed off IRL, with their avatars frozen, as in the book. For a plot with so little at stake (does a different corporation own the Oasis, or some Midwest shutin), this kind of plot shift seems fatal to the stakes...

#DeleteFacebook (Sanpaku), Friday, 30 March 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link

I'll probably see this at some point, I hope it's actually good. i can see my issue being less w/pop culture-centric bullshit and more about the fact that i don't really find movies with stories centered around virtual reality to be very compelling.

omar little, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link

I would go to see this if it were a distopian film about a future where the suffocating force of ironic and sincere nostalgia coupled with the terrified conservatism of cultural industries had led to an endless cycle of regurgitated references with all original ideas consigned to oh hold on this has already happened hasn't it

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 30 March 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link

Bingo.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Friday, 30 March 2018 17:36 (six years ago) link

VR can be compelling, but the stakes can't be within the VR. We had a spate of VR films in the 90s (Lawnmower Man, Strange Days, Existenz, The Thirteenth Floor, oh yeah, The Matrix). In all of them action within the VR had effects on the real world of the fictions. In RP1, the stake is whether some "saddo" or corporation owns a VR. It just strikes me a rather difficult screenwriting task, especially if the corporation isn't so clearly evil it's killing characters.

#DeleteFacebook (Sanpaku), Friday, 30 March 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link

somehow I never saw The Thirteenth Floor but, predictably, love the hell out of eXistenZ and will rep for Lawnmower Man

somehow Lawnmower Man was on broadcast tv (?) and I recorded it on VHS and rewatched it a bunch

mh, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:41 (six years ago) link

Someone should make a movie about adventures in a VR world where we never actually see the VR world, just the people with their helmets on, twitching and lurching and yelping at who even knows what.

Arthur Pizzarelli AKA The Peetz (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 March 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

Better than anything in the book.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 30 March 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

fail, but i stand by it

not quite as cool as seeing damo's wang but (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link

Jenny Nicholson did the same joke.

https://youtu.be/bWPMJwHrWFU

jmm, Friday, 30 March 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link

unperson if u took head out of ass u might understand i'm no S.S. worshipper

but that's not gonna happen

i recommend watching Empire of the Sun this weekend

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 31 March 2018 00:29 (six years ago) link

yeah always kinda figured u weren't into the S.S.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 31 March 2018 00:43 (six years ago) link

Wasn’t going to see this (hated what I read of the book) but a friend invited me and I have MoviePass so why not.

It’s...not good! There were certain points that felt so close to satire that I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. This is the kind of movie where the female lead’s avatar in the virtual reality world is LITERALLY a Manic Pixie Dream Girl.

Occasionally a bit of Spielbergian flair shines through but it’s ultimately the big loud computer fart you’d expect it to be.

Orwonty Nelson (latebloomer), Saturday, 31 March 2018 01:37 (six years ago) link

The AO Scott review is good. It saves its most pointed skewering for those who would call this SADDO: THE MOVIE.

It's a weirdly conflicted review. Scott seems loath to simply call RPO a bad movie, but his dissatisfaction is nonetheless evident. In conveying it, he repeats familiar complaints about the source material while sneering haughtily down at the "the toy guns of social media and pop-up kulturkritik" who made them first.

Coupled with the closing paragraphs, the early line about Spielberg being "the only person who could have made this movie and the last person who should have been allowed near the material" seems to contain the germ of a more substantial and interesting critique. I get the impression that Scott's admiration prevented him from fleshing it out, which seems a shame.

not quite as cool as seeing damo's wang but (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 March 2018 02:00 (six years ago) link

otm. I thought something similar reading that.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 31 March 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link

Like I said about an earlier review, major critics (the few that are left) are either forbidden or afraid to shit on this thing in the way it clearly deserves. Because it's Spielberg. Because it's likely one of the biggest-budget movies of the year. Because if they do the Comments Section will come for them.

i'm no S.S. worshipper

Dude, your first post on this thread calls him "the best American filmmaker of the last 40 years" and you haven't gotten any less worshipful since.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 31 March 2018 02:08 (six years ago) link

yeah always kinda figured u weren't into the S.S.

he does want ppl to watch a WWII movie this weekend though

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Saturday, 31 March 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link

Dude, your first post on this thread calls him "the best American filmmaker of the last 40 years" and you haven't gotten any less worshipful since.

Which puts him behind at least 4 or 5 Iranian filmmakers from the same time period. Get with it.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Saturday, 31 March 2018 02:27 (six years ago) link

I also gave The BFG, like, 6/10, so my correct evaluation of his status does not preclude critical thinking.

There were certain points that felt so close to satire that I couldn’t believe what I was seeing.

Everything I've read about this indicates that satire is part of the recipe, or do you think this beyond him?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 31 March 2018 07:14 (six years ago) link

I hope it flops like Ishtar

― El Tomboto, Saturday, July 22, 2017 10:55 PM

you gonna lose, sirrah

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 31 March 2018 07:16 (six years ago) link

You,the Academy,and Dawson off of Dawson's Creek

albvivertine, Saturday, 31 March 2018 09:24 (six years ago) link

Lol phone's not displaying text well. Anyway those're the ppl I've read/seen calling SS "great".

albvivertine, Saturday, 31 March 2018 09:27 (six years ago) link

Spielberg honestly is pretty great for someone who semi-frequently serves up a helping of hot trash. The hits hit hard enough that I'm willing to forgive his occasional severe lapses in judgment.

Arthur Pizzarelli AKA The Peetz (Old Lunch), Saturday, 31 March 2018 12:18 (six years ago) link

Like I'm sure his version of RPO is among the best that could've existed. It just shouldn't exist.

Arthur Pizzarelli AKA The Peetz (Old Lunch), Saturday, 31 March 2018 12:23 (six years ago) link

Everything I've read about this indicates that satire is part of the recipe, or do you think this beyond him?

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:14 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

could you stop trying to argue with people who’ve seen the movie

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 March 2018 12:55 (six years ago) link

hey there's an ilx CALLBACK

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 31 March 2018 13:13 (six years ago) link

im gonna follow doctor's orders and watch Empire of the Sun for the first time today!

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 31 March 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link

hey albvivertine, there are enuf ppl calling him great to get him to 26

http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_top250directors.htm

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 31 March 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link

Empire of the Sun has a UK ilxor in it, looking nauseous in the back of a truck.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 31 March 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link

Only Cronenberg has really nailed Ballard's voice.

Speaking of LITERALLY a Manic Pixie Dream Girl, can anyone vouch for Ruby Sparks, Zoe Kazan's deconstruction?

#DeleteFacebook (Sanpaku), Saturday, 31 March 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link

from an autistic viewer i follow on letterboxd

Ready Player One: I don’t want to feel inhuman anymore. a movie that represents the worst of masculinity, of nerd culture, of filmmaking and writing and ended up dehumanising me entirely, leaving my chest on fire and tears streaming down my face. irredeemable.

— Logan (@LoganKenny1) March 31, 2018

lowercase (eric), Saturday, 31 March 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link

https://t.co/LXMhSIcL6d

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 31 March 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

It’s def interesting that for years, message boards kind of fostered a culture where pop culture obsessives were derided as “autists” and “spergs”; and now (if this guy’s reading is correct), a big budget movie is doing the reverse, coding autism through the lens of pop culture.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 31 March 2018 18:27 (six years ago) link

Not sure if I should continue with the book, I’m about 1/4 way in and it’s some trite shit

calstars, Saturday, 31 March 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link

Walter Chaw:

Ready Player One is about how reality is better than any darned video game and how we should take the time to get to know one another. Nerds should stop flexing their newfound cultural privilege to be as awful as the jocks they've supplanted and instead try to get to know a real girl in the flesh and maybe earn a kiss by being less awful. At the end of it all, Spielberg makes it crystal clear that he doesn't give one flying fuck about any of this Ready Player One bullshit--not one bit of it. He doesn't understand the fetishism it represents, the isolation such devotions require, the tragedy of lives lived less authentically that virtual reality, by its name, suggests. It's the worst script he's ever shot (and there are hot contenders for that crown); the most disjointed and impersonal of his films since 1941; the first of his movies, again, that feels contemptuous of its subject. Spielberg is a lot of things, but a cold cynic is not one of them. Thank Cline for this new side of him. He's Spielberg's own private Annie Wilkes. Spielberg is by the end washing his hands of the whole thing in an anti-climax that makes no sense and doesn't care to, while offering up one of those classic Spielberg endings where, apocalypse be damned, here's one white girl and one white boy snuggling together in a perfect shaft of sunlight filtering through the Bat-leth on the windowsill. It's Spielberg's North by Northwest: a composite of what the people want and simultaneously a critique of what the people want. It's not as scabrous, certainly not as good (seeing as how Hitchcock's was born of bile while this seems just born of surprised revulsion), but it's just as long and I have my doubts he'll ever do anything like it again.

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Saturday, 31 March 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link

ouch!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 31 March 2018 19:45 (six years ago) link

put it right in my fucking veins

someone’s burgling my miscellanea (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 31 March 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link

Hi! What have I missed?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 March 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link


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