That is the worst! What a dick. I haven't worked in a rude workplace for such a long time, I don't think I could take it anymore.
Is there an HR team you can chat to on the sly?
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:07 (six years ago) link
yeah, in theory it could be reported to an anonymous line/union - other co-workers have had problems with her, but it seems like no action has really been taken. she's nice outside of work but just challenging at work, so it's kinda frustrating. she seems to enjoy being made fun of back, but that's really tiring. i've been off/on work due to injuries for the last couple months so i'm a little more scared to speak up to anyone, but i guess i'm protected by unions anyway,
― sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:11 (six years ago) link
probably find a new job soon tbh, 11 years in IT to ---this---
IME all kinds of personality disorders are given relatively free reign in the workplace because it's easier to gingerly tiptoe around the volcano than to address the annihilating blasts of lava head-on.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:23 (six years ago) link
(Plus, I have heard direct from the horse's mouth more than a few times concerns that an unstable employee, once disciplined or terminated, might prove to be dangerously so.)
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link
I don't think it's the team's problem to deal with, though - it's the manager's. And a lot of managers can be spineless or disinterested or assholes themselves.
Also lots of eccentricities can be solved without disciplining or firing people. It just requires a light touch. Which a lot of people don't have.
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link
My manager is great but the most recent update is they’re navigating the problem by letting me not work her desk or be trained by her. Today was a shit show of being corrected every 5 seconds or asked what I’m doing. I’m no dunce man. Plus she trains in a confusing manner and then reamsMe out. Seen her googling anxiety websites. At least I can go to work and keep my depression at bay and do my job without being a turd. Old lunch otm as usual
― sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link
it's my absolute hate when people say "oh so-and-so is just like that" - no, they are like it because their manager has allowed it to pass and enabled it by letting it continue. I'm a big fan of people having quirks and interesting personalities because it makes the day more interesting but if someone is rude, aggressive and ignorant then they're not doing their job to the best ability any less than someone who lacks technical skills. A manager who isn't prepared to deal with awkward conversations and difficult people is choosing to let that sabotage their team.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 15 June 2018 08:41 (six years ago) link
Absolutely otm
I’ve reported it. I can’t even go to work today cuz I need to focus on a new desk in isolation withoutBeing told to sit down!!! Actual quote.
― sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:06 (six years ago) link
Management has stated there’s been a long term problemwith a toxic culture but as long as they never spend time in the room, they never witness it. Anywhere else these individuals would be duly fired.
― sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:09 (six years ago) link
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, June 14, 2018 3:23 PM (yesterday)
Please don't conflate personality disorders with being an asshole, thx.
― emil.y, Friday, 15 June 2018 12:59 (six years ago) link
Yesterday I received an email from a manager that was basically a one-sentence 'are you falling behind in your work?' with no context or specifics or any mention of what might have led her to ask that question (nb, I was not, and was in fact helping several people with issues outside of the purview of my job on top of keeping up with my work, thanks).
A few minutes ago, another manager sent an email (from home) to the entire department that began 'Step it up people!'.
It would be cool if I could every so often luck into a Gallant for the dozens of managerial Goofuses I've been saddled with over the course of my working life.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 June 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link
keep them coming, I'm beginning to feel like I might actually be a good manager
― kinder, Friday, 15 June 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link
yesterday a coworker/superior used the phrase 'quite frankly' dozens of times -- easily -- during a half-hour phone call
now i find myself listening and waiting for it, which is annoying
― mookieproof, Friday, 15 June 2018 23:55 (six years ago) link
I had a coworker/superior whose catchphrase, every few sentences, was "if I'm being honest."
I strangled him with a USB cable and dropped his corpse down the elevator shaft, where it was never found.
― mick signals, Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:42 (six years ago) link
Lol
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:43 (six years ago) link
you were right to do it
― mookieproof, Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:52 (six years ago) link
a jury would never convict you
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 June 2018 03:50 (six years ago) link
only fair criticisms if we are open and honest about our own verbal foibles tbh
― tired culché (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 June 2018 10:33 (six years ago) link
Ex.: I use the phrase 'verbal foibles' way too much. But it just feels fun to say it, is all.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Saturday, 16 June 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link
I hate it when you make a one-off stupid mistake & someone is like “Was there a change in policy that I don’t know about? Let me know if the SOP been revised & I need to change my request format?” ...blah blah blahNO! I JUST FUCKED UP, OKAY? Jesus.
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link
oh sorry i am that other person
idk if i've ever gone that far in assuming literally everything i thought i knew was incorrect and bad though
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link
"Was there a change in policy? I'm so sorry if I submitted this incorrectly" = I know you fucked up and I want to rub your nose in it until you weep because I hate you, nothing personal it's the job that turns us all into monsters
― mick signals, Monday, 18 June 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link
otm, it's pure pass agg, I like my manager, but he sometimes goes down this path and it's not cool
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:24 (six years ago) link
Hey, ol' TB Sheets across the way is at it again, choking up what sounds like hunks of lung every few minutes. Pretty sure he very nearly barfed on himself a little while ago. And, oh hey, is that the beginning of a scratchy throat I'm feeling? Could it be that after numerous failed attempts over the last several months of carefully nurturing a series of recurring illness he's finally managed to share his gift of with me? Fuck yeh, bro, can't wait.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
Just got done listening to my coworker lie yet again to a vendor over the phone.
The vendor then called me and said, "Why does she lie to me like that? Does she think I'm stupid? I might be but my lawyers are NOT."
― Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link
That sounds like potentially a serious problem?!
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link
Nowhere else to put this, but. . . uhmm. . . one of my coworkers uses the term "mental retardation" when discussing some clients. This person isn't using it in a derogatory way, they are actually trying to describe another person's condition. But, it just doesn't seem right to use such an antiquated term that has such harsh connotations. It's especially wrong for my coworker to use it, considering the nature of our jobs. My coworker really should know better. I've thought about correcting them each and every time they've used it, but I just don't have the self-discipline required to approach the situation assertively and respectfully.
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link
My company serves a lot of businesses that still have 'retarded' or 'retardation' (in the context you mention) as part of their business name. Although many of them now do business under an abbreviation. It's always kinda stunning to realize how widespread the usage still is.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link
Sheesh, that just doesn't seem right.
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Thursday, 21 June 2018 16:23 (six years ago) link
Ugh my opposite-desk coworker smokes those illegal chop-chop black market handmade cigs, and when he comes back to his desk he smells FOUL, like a 3-week-old filthy ashtray. Not like "ugh a smoker!", it is way way worse, it is so gross.
And I'm a smoker!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 22 June 2018 01:12 (six years ago) link
As a person very sensitive to cigarette smoke and lingering cigarette smells, that sounds awful.
Maybe, as a smoker, you can answer this: what is the appeal of the black market tobacco?
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Friday, 22 June 2018 03:17 (six years ago) link
let me just throw a guess out there before Trayce corrects me: it’s cheaper
― mh, Friday, 22 June 2018 03:46 (six years ago) link
It is INSANELY cheaper. We pay incredibly high taxes for smokes here. A pack of 30 would cost about $35 depending where you get em.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 22 June 2018 03:50 (six years ago) link
But thats not enough of a motivation for me to ever try em, given this stench :/
they’re made of ground-up cigarette butts and dog poop but you get a harsh buzz
― mh, Friday, 22 June 2018 03:57 (six years ago) link
I think they're actually made from the dried, shredded lungs of deceased smokers
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 22 June 2018 04:17 (six years ago) link
not sure if qualitative difference
― mh, Friday, 22 June 2018 14:00 (six years ago) link
Email went out this morning containing an invoice from a photo shoot; it was clearly meant for our Accounts Payable dept. but was sent to a company-wide mailing list instead. I get an inordinate amount of pleasure from people's reactions to this sort of thing. Can't decide if my favorite is paranoid Stephen, relieved Jamie, or baffled Kathryn. Love that Pat refers to Martha as Hannah. I think Rachel finally put a stop to it.
MarthaPlease upload---------- Forwarded message ----------Hello, Please find attached a recent prop hire invoice. Many Thanks
MarthaSorry – wrong email address. Please ignore.
KerenHiSorry I don't think this was meant to come to meRegards
LaurenDear Martha,I have no idea what this is about?
JoMe neither....
StephenSounds like spam. Do not open.
AndyMartha has already responded saying this was directed to the wrong address. You can delete it from your inbox and ignore it.
GiannaGuys- She already responded saying she sent it to the wrong email. Stop replying.
PatHi guysYou obviously did not receive the second e-mail from Hannah immediately following the first one.It was sent by mistake and can be ignored. see screen dump below.
JamieI was wondering!Sent from my iPhone
MaureenSorry All, but I do not code UK invoices.Hi Laura,Would you know who would get this?
KathrynI'm afraid I am also at a loss!I have not ordered any lacquered wooden bowls recentlyThanks!
RachelCould we please stop 'replying all' to this email chain.Many thanks
― early rejecter, Friday, 22 June 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link
Hi, I think you posted this in the wrong thread? I'm not sure how to help you with your story about people who bafflingly 'reply all' to emails. Sorry!
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link
My favorite is always the 50 follow-up reply-all emails that scold everyone about clicking reply-all.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 22 June 2018 14:55 (six years ago) link
Those really are the best.
(Side story: People outside of the company who send an email to one of my work addresses receive an automated reply to let them know that their inquiry was received along with various details of what we need from them in order to proceed. People do occasionally respond to these autoreplies as if they're being sent by a real live boy, but they usually only do it the once because, y'know, after receiving an identical response twice in a row, it's fairly clear what's going on. Or so I assumed, until a couple weeks back when someone who was apparently in the middle of a nervous breakdown responded to the autoreply no less than three or four times in less than an hour, each time seeming more panicked and despondent. Her final email was something like 'I don't understand, do you just want me to leave you alone?!' Yes. Yes, I do.)
― Secret Peanut (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link
Oh man, I absolutely love the company-wide emails that get caught up in the "reply all" loop. Of course, my favorites are the condescending morons who tell everyone to stop hitting "reply all" by ingeniously clicking "reply all" in order to do so.
But, I'd also like to rep for the gloriously oblivious, "Please remove me from this mailing list!" lot, all of whom I'd like to personally meet and shake hands with.
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Saturday, 23 June 2018 03:44 (six years ago) link
both latter are valid and correct and nevessary responses
― tired culché (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:04 (six years ago) link
It's probably best to confidently 'reply all' to the inquiry in question with a solution which is completely wrong.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Saturday, 23 June 2018 12:50 (six years ago) link
There's a woman in my office who has a "Do Not Disturb" sign tacked permanently to her door. She never takes it down.
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link
Smart
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:11 (six years ago) link
My company serves a lot of businesses that still have 'retarded' or 'retardation' (in the context you mention) as part of their business name.
Lord.
Also, I found this while perusing the MS style guide and couldn't help but bleakly chuckle.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/style-guide/a-z-word-list-term-collections/a/abort-abortion
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:14 (six years ago) link
I was thinking specifically of this org: https://www.thearc.org/who-we-are/history/name-change
It seems that the memo hasn't yet made its way to some of their regional chapters.
― A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link
New job has been wonderful. Company as a whole is still fairly dumb.
This week, I got asked to teach a course somewhat last minute,but I didn't mind as I'd taught it previously. When the roster came in, I had a suspicion, and on Day 2 confirmed that suspicion - that 6 of the learners didn't have the prerequisite knowledge to even be in the class (they were supposed to have already learned how to use a specific call handling system and reference tools, of which they had no knowledge).
My course is a 4.5 day course - the course they would need is an 11 day version, one I've never taught. So I brought this up to the powers that be while doing my best to make adjustments to my course, and got basically asked "can you just...extend the course and keep teaching next week".
to which I said....no.
the days go by a lot faster now that I'm no longer salaried too. which I love.
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link