David Lynch - Classic or Dud

Its true that Donald Trump could be the greatest president ever if he was not Donald Trump

well its a function of arts graduates insisting that artists have something valid to say about politics etc isnt it they then ask great artists this as if it were going to lead anywhere but where it usually does

Nah I don’t think the interviewer that goes looking for a lynch quote on politics in 2018 is under any illusions, ppl know the kind of thing they’re gonna get

true true

twas a remarkably poor piece all told

He is undecided about Donald Trump. “He could go down as one of the greatest presidents in history because he has disrupted the thing so much. No one is able to counter this guy in an intelligent way.”

...what

you see em doin so?

It’s been funny watching people online today try and claim he’s the victim of clickbait w the Trump quote instead of dealing w the reality that great artists can have bad politics. Or it seems like he doesn’t follow politics closely at all. Like if it doesn’t effect him, he doesn’t care.

Who gives a shit

Or it seems like he doesn’t follow politics closely at all. Like if it doesn’t effect him, he doesn’t care.

Yep

Who gives a shit

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how out of character that David Lynch, so famously engaged with the world outside his own studio, would have one slight blip in his analysis of geopolitics

didn’t he love reagan

he’s like a kid watching bugs through a magnifyimg glass, it’s just bc ppl are reacting to trump that he even notices

“they’re swarmimg maybe they will eat the leader” etc

I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed obsessing over the small print of celebrity interviews

yes next to the guy that finally wiped out the Cherokee and the other guy who nuked Japan and another guy who raped his slave and is on our $20 bill yes he could end up being the greatest among that esteemed crowd

No one is able to counter this guy in an intelligent way.

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what am i missing? the only way to respond to trump is more intelligently than trump

1964: College student David Lynch gets stoned at a Bob Dylan concert and walks out of the show. His roommate, Peter, gets angry about this, so Lynch throws him out. (Peter would later become J. Geils Band singer Peter Wolf.) pic.twitter.com/xaikQHOYSK

— Robert Loerzel (@robertloerzel) June 24, 2018

No he didnt “love” Reagan. So tired if that getting passed around

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oh lol sorry i should not take a magazine headline to heart

“No one is able to counter this guy in an intelligent way.
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― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, June 24,

Lol

I heard that Dylan anecdote somwhere else recently, in almost those exact same words, I think in the Art Life film? He really does tell the same stories over and over. I have no desire to get this, at least not now.

The intelligent way to counter Trump is to say “Trump isn't that bad”

the fact that people earnestly care about this is insane to me, the guy has never uttered a coherent political statement in public that I'm aware of

also, for real, burn indiewire to the fucking ground. they suck and I hate them a lot.

Are people legitimately trying to make a deal out of that Trump statement? Def. dumb if you have any sense of the dude.

Dude said he voted for Reagan cause he likes 50s cowboys & doesn’t remember who he voted for in 2016, he is clearly not what you’d call a deep political thinker, he’s practically bruneau-level

Obv people shouldn’t earnestly care what he has to say about this stuff (and don’t really, that I can see, not like they do about eg Kanye who is at least as dumb & incoherent) which is why he should stop talking about it and ppl should stop asking him

I still prefer Lynch (fuck-witted/inarticulate political comments and all) over that annoying smug cunt Alec Baldwin, times about a zillion.

Lynch has had a speech problem since he was young. Which has made for some memorable dialogue in his movies but expecting Lynch to be articulate seems odd to me. Simon otm

I dunno - his points seem pretty clear! And while I don't agree with him, it's kind of an interestingly fucked-up take.

Yeah it’s not really a question of articulation, he’s cheerfully clueless when it comes to anything like this but i think his position is exactly what he says it is. Knowing a bit about his worldview it isn’t that surprising that he genuinely believes this is a likely outcome:

*trump puts kids in cages*
World: boy this shitty president sure is disruptive
(later)
hmm but wat if TM tho 🤔
*paradise ensues*

his folksy patter seems to be slipping since he continues to use that word and not like shambles or muddle

what word

the j word

...josie?

JUDY?

oops i meant the i word

IRENE?!

re trump, i assume ppl have seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up6zyI-cV5k

Issac, Chris

Imbroglio?

Imbruglia?

I'm torn.

The Angriest Trump in the World by D. Lynch
https://i.imgur.com/LPQCoxx.png

hell yah just googled "trump eraserhead" and it delivered

https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.326621801.5567/raf,750x1000,075,t,101010:01c5ca27c6.jpg https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Vwo2YxS1AeA/WyWe5h_Ix1I/AAAAAAABaJM/c-hSTqAJ4wQeg01EY_ZFdC3mr0W8InHhgCLcBGAs/s1600/Trump_Eraserhead_Numbskull.jpg

We may never understand the appeal to David Lynch of a presidency that, using kitsch and dream logic, has transformed ordinary American life into a phantasmagorical hellscape

— Robbie Collin (@robbiereviews) June 26, 2018

lol

So many people, even some ostensibly "serious" critics, taking the "could be one of the great presidents" bit on its own and stripping it of any context is fucking depressing. Obviously Lynch is not the most politically coherent guy but even 15 seconds of reading will make clear they're not straightforward words of praise.

Great meaning large or immense. We use it in the pejorative sense

Good piece: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43595b/no-david-lynch-didnt-actually-praise-trump

Need to find that soundbite of Trump shouting out David Lynch at a rally.

Is this really a hill people are going to die on? This is how adults fail to process that a great artist can have bad politics. There’s maybe an element where people like Peyser agree w what he said but know they can’t say that.

It’s not better to praise Trump as a “disrupter”. In context his quote is no different than Susan Sarandon’s really naive stuff about Trump during the election but worse because now we know things didn’t actually work out that way.